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 Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2012 10:06 am
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Steve Laughlin
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looking over the Paistes cymbal website, one of the CUSN8 cymbals is the model 2002 and it is easily found on this page in the center, with its reddish color... you can click each model to get more info on the materials...

http://www.paiste.com/e/cymbalfam.php?menuid=3

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Steve,Ralf and Peter....I have 100% confidence in all of you,that the new bronze offerings will be exactly what you say it is...Thank You for going above and beyond,you have set an example I would hope all other watch companies will follow!thankyou.gif

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Great pictures Steve! Can you explain why CuSn8 was chosen rather than one of the many other Bronze alloys? If everyone knows this, I apologize.

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because it is real bronze, it is a pure composition of copper and tin, it is sea water resistant, it is a nice color, and it is the bronze used on the Pam 382.

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Thanks, good reasons.

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 has heard anything from Magrette and their bronze test...seems like a long time has passed since Dions rep said this would be done?278.gif

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oagaspar wrote:
 has heard anything from Magrette and their bronze test...seems like a long time has passed since Dions rep said this would be done?278.gif

There's no update  yet.
Regattare Bronze
We just learned that two of our colleague watch brands issued a recall for some of their watches after 3rd party tests showed that the alloy these watches were made of is not the CuSn8 that they ordered from their supplier.

 Needless to say that we will have our Regattare Bronze tested as well to ensure we have been selling what we believe is a watch with a massive CuSn8 case. We have confirmation of our supplier that the alloy we ordered and received indeed is CuSn8, but we will have this double checked in a laboratory to make 100% sure. We will keep you updated on our facebook page / news page of our web site.

 If it is necessary we will contact previous buyers by email as soon as we have more info.  Rest assured we will do anything in our power to ensure that we get to the bottom of this.

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Hammerfjord wrote: Steve Laughlin wrote:
at least it wasn't a rock
He would not dare...Everybody knows how the "tiles guy" was worried to see Jason on his door for the friday 13th subtlelaugh.gif


oh my.gifJERKSsubtlelaugh.gif 

THOUGHT WE WAS BUDSmini me.gif.....chickendance.gif!!!!! HE,HE,HE

Last edited on Wed Feb 22nd, 2012 11:32 am by watchdaddy1

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I have full confidence in BOTH parties, & to come 4ward like this & take care of it is what REAL c/s is about.

Kudos to Benarus & Helson both TOP NOTCH Companies.bravo.gif

& I just reserved the new Bronze Moray if that tells you anythingthumbsup.gif.

Last edited on Wed Feb 22nd, 2012 11:37 am by watchdaddy1

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Magrette's response at WUS ref: bronze watch. crazy.gif

Bull S^&t they were caught with their pants down.mistake.gif

They knew that watch was brass first indication was the price.homerthinks.gif



And this is what I just posted on Magrette Timepieces Europe | Facebook

UPDATE Alloy test


Dear Regattare Bronze customers,

After our colleagues from Helson and Benarus recently announced that their bronze watches appeared to be made from a different alloy than advertised, we decided to have our cases tested as well.

Yesterday we got the final results back from an independent laboratory in New Zealand. We had several cases tested to make sure we got results that were representative of the different batches we received from our supplier.

Like with our colleagues, it appears that our supplier did not deliver us what was promised and confirmed by them more than once to be CuSn8, a bronze alloy that has a high amount of copper, some tin and very little other metals.
The alloy that was found in our cases is a high level brass alloy. That contains a lower percentage of copper, zinc and a tiny bit of lead. The same material saxophones, trumpets, trombones are made of.

Fact is that we unwillingly and unknowingly have been selling the watch cases as CuSn8 bronze. We are currently considering several options of solving this to the full satisfaction of our customers. We now think this will be possible, but need confirmation of several scenarios before being able to present our ideas to you in full.

We hope you understand this is quite a special situation and that it involves close communication with our suppliers and other parties to reach a solution that will be workable, that minimizes the business impact to our small company and that makes our faithful customers happy.

As soon as we will be able to present a viable solution in full, we will communicate it on our magrette.com and magrette.eu web sites, as well on the facebook/magrette.eu page and in the larger watch community forums. We want to communicate openly about this and appreciate you sharing this info within the watch community.

It does not suffice to say that we feel a victim ourselves because of our good faith in our business partners. We feel we have to make this right, staying true to our own values and beliefs.

Needless to say we will contact all buyers of this model by email as soon as we have a detailed plan. We will also contact all people who have reserved this model for purchase with some clear options as soon as possible.

We probably will not be able to answer all individual questions at this point in time, but will try to answer most asked question on forums/facebook whenever possible. We need to spend time sorting this out, so we can continue doing what we like much more: introducing new models and sell these to our customers.

With kind regards,

Dion McAsey
Founder Magrette Timepieces

Stephan Trimbos
Magrette Timepieces Europe/quote]

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 Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2012 10:17 am
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gotta agree Johnny...Dion knows watches,or at least that is what his minions keep saying,so how does he not know when he pays pennies on a dollar for a watch that it's anything but brass?...the cheapest metallic case material available... Something smells rotten in the state of Denmark!no.gif


...it's unfortunate that the 100's of WIS who bought will never end up owning a bronze Magrette,but end up getting nothing in the end,but a few trinkets and the shaft!...except for those excited, inept WIS who believe they have a future collectible they can stable along side their most treasured 6 value pay watch beginning with the letter L or R...chickendance.gif

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C'mon guys! Brass is cool! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Ku9tKBs20&feature=relateddog smile.gif

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