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 Posted: Fri Jul 19th, 2013 08:22 am
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Hammerfjord
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flipper wrote:
Well said. Love that story. Thanks for the lesson.

You're welcome. It always been my opinion that one will find movements which will rival each-others in strength and durability even them prices are very different.
For the reliability: It's all about tests, time witnessing and strong mechanical facts.
For the price: It's all about marketing, exclusivity, branding and perception on the market who gets influenced by the last facts(Of course the reliability gets involved).
But I believe that some cheap reliable movements will serve you through time as well as expensive reliable ones.
It's not all about the name and the price: It's all about mechanical features.
Brands like Lemania, Peseux, Valjoux, Fontainemelon, Schild, Unitas etc been helping to write the history of mass produced work-horses.
They was made affordable by the large production in industrial scales at a certain time and somehow with them price sinking down, people started to see less exclusivity and less value in them.
They was as well, never marketed intensively through branding the way we know it now.
Non the less, they might surpass or equal many other expensive movements when facing the wheel of time passing by: Because they often allied the whole right recipe to produce a long lasting movement.
More interesting details on the story I "condensed" : http://www.breitlingsource.com/articles_roff_historymovement.shtml

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From what I read somewhere, a new caliber or new movement needs at LEAST 10 years before it can prove itself. Hard to think how a system piece containing so many small moving parts, researched by engineers, designed by entire departments and produced with so much attention to detail has to have a 10 year record. But I guess that's how the true and pure industry works. Strangely, this is also what they say about a new ballistic size, i.e. 41mm AE or .40 Caliber.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 19th, 2013 12:55 pm
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bigrustypig wrote:
From what I read somewhere, a new caliber or new movement needs at LEAST 10 years before it can prove itself. Hard to think how a system piece containing so many small moving parts, researched by engineers, designed by entire departments and produced with so much attention to detail has to have a 10 year record. But I guess that's how the true and pure industry works. Strangely, this is also what they say about a new ballistic size, i.e. 41mm AE or .40 Caliber.
Nasa saved them self 10 years of waiting when they did the flight qualification's tests in 1965 on different brands chronometers before choosing the Speedmaster from Omega...ThumbsUp02.gif
Of course it has to imply that parts exposed to tearing due to repetitive actions, would be strong/thick enough to withstand a decade without the need to be changed or weak enough to impeach any digging.
This is why the "Delryn(kind of plastic) brake was introduced in 74 to prevent the wear of the central second pinions, since the original metal part was digging into them...
I'm just quoting infos about the movement 861 from Speedmaster I've been reading since I'm not a watchmaker myself.

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