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 Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 04:29 pm
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I have been so intrigue with the accuracy of my Doxas Mil Ed, and the Searambler after I adjusted them. I knew was missing something.  I have adjusted standard eta 2824-2 in the past that they wouldn’t gain a second on the wrist remove the watch from the wrist they go to warp speed, LOL!   I wore the Doxa Mil Ed yesterday remove the watch place it faces up it didn’t gain or lose a second over night.

 

Here are pictures from the Dreadnought (TOP) chronometer, and the Doxa Chronometer picture courtesy of Eric. You notice that the balance wheel spoke is flare (Gilt Glucydur), and it has incabloc shock system    





 

Here is a picture of the standard 2824-2, etachoc (novadiac) shock system, with a standard balance wheel straight spoke (gilt nickel) according to ETA chart spec









Elabore movement, same balance wheel as standard accept with incabloc



 

My point is when you read reviews with the proven 2824-2 movement etc, and buy watches that cost $300.00 and up with the eta 2824-2 I would recommend checking what grade of movement you’re getting for your money they’re not the same.

Conclusion:  If you bought the Doxa chronometer rest assure that is what you own  ( TOP ) chronometer certified COSC, the Elabore   Doxa 750t is not a chronometer grade movement, but it’s a Elabore eta 2824-2 with some upgrades from standard. 

 
This is just my finding or opinion, if you don’t understand this info I can’t help you.:)

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 Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 07:03 pm
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yamahaki wrote: Without pulling the case back off of my Zeno, is there a way of finding what grade of eta 2824-2 thats in it?

it does say on the back 6349-2824.

No Sean I don't know, the first four number is the model number of the watch. I been trying to find picture of the movement for while no such luck. I'm quessing that's a standard 2824-2, but not sure without looking at it. :) Nice watch I like it, congrats!hand6.gif

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 Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 07:19 pm
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Swiss lever escapement, Incabloc shock absorber, Glucydur balance, Nivarox 1 flat spiral, Antimagnetic, 28´800 vibrations per hour, Nivaflex spring, ball bearing central rotor with heavy metal weight, power reserve to -47h, Etachron fine adjustment, tight tolerance of adjustment

Well, the specs for the watch do list it as having an Incabloc shock absorber, Glucydur Balance. So, I would conclude it is the upgraded movement based on your chart and pictures.

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mcwright wrote: Swiss lever escapement, Incabloc shock absorber, Glucydur balance, Nivarox 1 flat spiral, Antimagnetic, 28´800 vibrations per hour, Nivaflex spring, ball bearing central rotor with heavy metal weight, power reserve to -47h, Etachron fine adjustment, tight tolerance of adjustment

Well, the specs for the watch do list it as having an Incabloc shock absorber, Glucydur Balance. So, I would conclude it is the upgraded movement based on your chart and pictures.

Based on those specs it sounds like a top grade,  but we been there with another vendor to find out later it's not true. The only way to find out for sure is to see the movement.:D  That power reserve seem to high for a 2824-2, something is fishy here.

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When I get mine from Marc ...I will crack it open and get some pics

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yamahaki wrote:
Please explain what this means. A 47 hour power reserve is alot for a eta 2824 isn't it? I love watches and do some reading on movements, but some of the terms that are used describing this movement go over my head. Is this a solid movement?

The power reserve is when you fully wind the watch place it on a stationary location without moving it, the watch should stop on or about the amount specified.:P  (38 hour later)

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>>That power reserve seem to high for a 2824-2, something is fishy here.<<

If you go to the German site for Zeno, they claim (to -47h) for most of their 2824-2 movements. I take that to mean (to less than) 47 hours. Whatever, they are consistent. :D:D:D

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mcwright wrote: >>That power reserve seem to high for a 2824-2, something is fishy here.<<

If you go to the German site for Zeno, they claim (to -47h) for most of their 2824-2 movements. I take that to mean (to less than) 47 hours. Whatever, they are consistent. :D:D:D

So if it stops at 38 hour it's less than 47 hours they are correct.:D:D  That's why I post the ETA's specs that read 38 hours power reserve I believe them.:D Not my specs.

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Highly informative, esp. with the pics.  Helped clear up my understanding of the differences between the various 2824 grade's shock absorbers and balance wheels. Thanks Johnny P.

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I decided to bring this informative post back up by our 3T adviser JohnnyPhand6.gif......I hope this helps some of our new WIS as well as some of those who think they know the difference between the real goodies on a eta movement opposed to the standard grades of eta's ;)

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time to sticky this awesome pictorial post about the differences in eta movements...one I have learned to live by...TY JPhand6.gif

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Good read! Maybe I missed it but.. was it explained why power reserves may be different?

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