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 Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 09:11 am
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Aloha Everyone

While we are planning our next model, we will like to find out what do you think is essential for a divers watch?

And hopefully we can incorporate your ideas into our watch.

Get on with it guys.



Anders

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For myself

Size
Thickness
Lume
A Unique Case, with cool machining
Colors that are unique
Titanium
I also like a Funky offset Crown with cool knurling and big but protected

Cheers

Last edited on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 12:39 pm by hucky

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Hi there Anders,


Kudos aplenty to you for such an open invitation for everybody to contribute and pitch in. Commitment is the key word and your implementation is flawless!

First and foremost, clarity of display and instant recognition of information to the user. The watch must have/convey solidity of character and certainty of soul.

No unnecessary clutter on display, large bold visible but not garish hands, markers/indices made to orientate and not confound the user. Colors and textures of all those parts must complement and not conflict each other. The same goes for the bezel, which must be usable and relevant to the watch and its intended function.

Ruggedness of built, extreme water resistance of course - inasmuch WR must be practical and "enabled", qualifying the piece as a true tool watch, made to be used "in the wild" instead of a desk or the poolside bar.

Case -and in a lesser measure the crown- should be big and heavy enough to be seen and felt but not so much as to become a hindrance, flipping and flopping and bumping around. Bracelet and/or strap should have enough girth and comfort to make wearing the watch a pleasure. Strap options beyond the obvious are a much welcome bonus.

Altogether the watch must be made to stand out but not yell its presence; think "less is more" and you'll be on track.

Just my dois centavos, ok?


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Hello Anders,

Thanks for the question.  My experience as a diver was almost all in the Great Lakes with some diving done in the caves of norther Florida.  My Great Lakes diving was done almost exclusively on deeper shipwrecks, many times in the interior of the wreck.  Therefore, my requirements would be more stringent than someone diving in a tropical paradise.  What I would want would be a large, clear, and uncluttered face and big bold hands.

The Divergraph, while a beautiful watch, would not be a diver I would depend on because the dial is busy, the hands are too fine and the bezel moves too freely.  Note, the diver in my avatar is a Marathon TSAR.  A great watch but, really not a dedicated diver, IMO, which is anything but humble.  Dial too busy and hands too small.  The Marathon SAR, though, looks like it would be a good diver but I don't have one.

The Oceantimer would be more desirable to me because the hands are bolder, the dial is cleaner and.  It just lacks some size.  To me, the lume issue, while it's always nice to have, for the kind of diving I did would be less important because I always brought my own sunshine in the form of redundant, powerful lights.

The bezel of a good diver should be fairly difficuolt to move.  More like the Oceantimer and less like the Divergraph.

Diving equipment takes a terrible beating and it's nearly impossible to baby it.  Therefore, obviously, the diving watch should be rugged.

For me, one of the best divers available today is the Citizen Eco-Zilla or Auto-Zilla, at least among those I have.  If I could change that watch, just a smidgen, I'd enlarge the face a little and maybe have the dial set a little less deep.  Some say a diving watch should be an automatic because of concerns the battery could give out on a quartz in the middle of a diving operation.  That's no doubt, a valid concern but it  never concerned me because essential equipment like lights, watches, knives, etc., were always carried in duplicate where practical.

Keep in mind, I'm an old guy and diving has changed a great deal since I was active.  My thoughts are based on experience from 25-40 years ago.  I understand that today, dive timing operations are handled by dive computers....imagine, underwater computers.

Also, as Marcello said, in diving, sometimes less is more.  Try to keep things simple.

Hope  my input helps.

Last edited on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 03:52 am by Willieboy

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hmm,
       i agree with wat everyones mentioned, good lume, tough bezel, easily readible dial, big crown etc2. But ive found myself to be grown more n more to big thick dive watches. All the big brands r churning out massive n increadible lookin pieces. When i first started being interest in watches, then it was like 40mm max. Now after owning a few big chunky watches, i like the weight n the presence it has on yer wrist. Anything 43-45mm is the norm now i guess? So if yer designing a new watch i vote for big unique chunky case anydays. smile8.gifsmile8.gif

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In addition to the comments already here I must add:

ORANGE!!

:D:D:D

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Eegads!  Just kidding Pax.  Orange is a great color for a diver.

Paxman wrote:
In addition to the comments already here I must add:

ORANGE!!

:D:D:D

Last edited on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 03:30 am by Willieboy

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Nice Size

Comfort on the wrist

Lume must be very good

Highly visible hands and markers

Non Cluttered Dial

22mm lugs minimum

Automatic movt.

Last edited on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 07:07 am by Crue4

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Case size range: 42mm to 46mm

Lugs 22mm or 24mm

Rubber strap preferred but ss bracelet OK

At least 300M WR preferred.

Automatic movement (Swiss preferred)

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Well Anders, since you asked, my opinion of essential Diver watch characteristics:

- Stainless steel case with all brushed or bead blasted finish (no glossy areas).
- Case dimensions: 43-45mm diameter (excluding crown), 14-17mm overall thickness.
- Protected crown, (crown guards).
- 22 or 24mm lugs.
- Depth rated to 300m or greater.
- Screw-down case back and crown.
- Automatic movement
- Rotating bezel with lume marker at 12:00, nice firm clicks, dimensionally thick proportion, minute markers full circumference of bezel, large easy to
grip machined outer rim "lugs", clearly legible classic font for numbers.
- Large diameter crown.
- Dial: Flat black color, large brightly lumed hour markers, white minute markers, larger proportioned marker at 12:00, clean uncluttered layout.
- Date function, (white numbers on black background).
- Hands: Highly legible, highly lumed, yellow or orange color accented minute hand, oversized proportion minute hand, lumed tipped sweeping second hand.
- Domed sapphire crystal with interior AR coating.
- Braclet: Stainless steel with brushed or bead blasted finish (no glossy areas), large rugged looking link proportions, screw lug attachment, solid ends and links, screwed or pinned links, fold over deployment clasp with micro adjustment, logo etched on clasp, optionally supplied black rubber dive strap.

Thanks for asking. ThumbsUp02.gif

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Howdy guys! Thank You everyone for their input and ideas. Greatly appreciated.

Now I have a better idea now.

What do you guys say we do something sporty with strong lines?

Something masculine?

I consolidated everyone's opinion.

Ok start with the case...
Who is in for a 44mm case that is about 15mm thick?

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anders213 wrote: Howdy guys! Thank You everyone for their input and ideas. Greatly appreciated.

Now I have a better idea now.

What do you guys say we do something sporty with strong lines?

Something masculine?

I consolidated everyone's opinion.

Ok start with the case...
Who is in for a 44mm case that is about 15mm thick?


Works for me Anders. ;)

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