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stew77 Admin 
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Hey guys...I was just checking out Steinhart's new TRITON 100 ATM Stahl on the updated Steinhart website. I have always liked the past Triton (Debaufre and Steinhart varieties). I'm noticing that the NEW models from Debaufre and Steinhart are taking a deliberate departure from each other in the design area. I absolutely LOVE hearteyes.gifhearteyes.gifhearteyes.gif this new Steinhart TRITON 100 ATM Stahl, and frankly I'm struggling to find anything that I don't like. Man...I REALLY like the whole package here...from the case finishes/design, dial design, lume treatment, hands, deployment strap...WOW!!!! I think Steinhart has hit one out of the park here. Some pics to drool over below........Would love to hear other opinions.          |
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mcwright Admin 
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Could be the KEWLIST Stein'er ever! :dude: |
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DJRHodes71 3T WIS 
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WOW! I really like.  |
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Gregger 3T WIS 
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Love it!!!!!!hand6.gif |
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Focal 3T WIS 
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That is pretty sharp looking! Maybe a little busy/flashy, but really nice design. |
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ivster 3T WIS 
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Not a crazy price either at 560 Euros Functions hour and minute with Superluminova central second hand date at 6 o'clock screw-down crown at 4 o'clock movement ETA 2824-2 automatic helium escape valve at 2 o'clock Case: stainless steel beed-blasted Diameter: 45 mm height: 14 mm Weight: 195 g Dial: black Crystal: flat sapphire, 5 mm, with two layers of anti-reflecting coating on the inside Bezel: black DLC, uni-directional / 120 clicks Indices and Hands: Superluminova white, orange Lug width: 24 mm WaterRes: 1000 m according to DIN Strap: rubber strap black with deployment clasp |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Chris, thanks for posting this. hand6.gif I think it's a great watch with sufficient features for serious enthusiasts to consider. Reminds me a little bit though of the forthcoming Aqua Luna 2, except that that one presents itself with a dominant blue dial color markings and accents (if the last thread on the AL2 were to be the final product). Overall a good, good snap even at E650.00 considering the HEV, 1,000m rating and black DLC....which is the most difficult to achieve on DLC. Usually, DLC is just a shade or 2 lighter than jet black but Steinhart may have scored a home run on the total black variant. But I have to agree with Brice that the dial is a little too busy particularly with the addition of the inner broken orange ring. Maybe without that inner ring, the watch would posture itself a little more seriously. Somehow though the value of that ring comes up when dark sets in and lume takes over. Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, that discrete orange seal around the seams of the HEV is an unusual and remarkable touch on design. Not very comfortable having a deployant on a diver and would prefer the usual tang-type buckle or popular double snap safety buckle. Would I consider buying this on a scale of 1 to 10? Yes....I'd score it a 7 and maybe my craving for this watch would increase to a 9 if only it were thicker than 14mm. Ideally, an 18mm height would complement this hefty diver. The above points are only my opinion and anybody is open to disagree. Big Congrats to the folks at Steinhart for a notable creation.yourock.gif |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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Overall it looks like a winner but having said that I have reservations about the busy dial and the hands. But that's just me...:shock: |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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I think it is awesome but I would have liked it more if they had left the orange lume circle off the dial hand6.gifhand6.gif |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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Nice looker indeed. ;) |
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KenC Admin 
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I have nothing but respect for all of the Steinhart/Debaufre offerrings, but I'm up to my neck in Divers. I still waiting for them to come out with a great Pilot GMT watch! |
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DM71 3T WIS 
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I was waiting for this one since a saw the prototype on Oceanictime, a few months ago. Like you Chris, I love everything about this timepiece. There is not one thing I would change and I can assure you that you will read my review on this one in 2010! This is the nicest diver ever made by this company IMHO. It's a winner!!!  |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS 
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As i had posted in a prior thread on this puppy, I love the watch overall, some real nice design touches but a tad bit budy maybe... part of my lioked the other older Triton better yet if i'd buy one, it'd be this one somehow... something appeals to me. Just don't have the $560euros yet...) Now i gotta get plugged in this AquaLuna 2 story... |
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stew77 Admin
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Thanks for all the great replies guys...I ALWAYS like to hear your guys excellent comments on all that is WIS...and honestly appreciate everyone throwin' in their honest opinion!!! ...just one of the many things that makes 3T a great place to hang out...hand6.gif I definitely tend to fall for a watch that has a design that trends more toward the "classic", less busy design side, so I agree with alot of the comments made that note the dial is a bit busy...there is just something about the way this entire design melds together that I really like though...I'm just totally lovin' it!! (like you guys...all IMO...the WIS kingdom would be a very boring place if everyone shared the same opinion...so it is truly all good woohoo.gif). I'll try to reply to some of your posts individually below. |
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stew77 Admin
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bigrustypig wrote: Chris, thanks for posting this. hand6.gif Jeff...thanks for takin' the extra time to reply on this one amigo...your detailed comments really gave me some things to think about. I agree with the comparison comments to the upcoming Aqualuna 2...I remember thinking back on that one not knowing which design really became the "winner"...the Aqualuna 2 is definitely one that I will keep my eyes out for in 2010. Like you, that extra HEV design element with the orange accented HEV valve highlight that plays off the orange in the dial really caught my attention...really love that!!!hand6.gif I have a feeling that 2010 will end with this one in the watch box somehow... -Chris |
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stew77 Admin
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KenC wrote: I have nothing but respect for all of the Steinhart/Debaufre offerrings, but I'm up to my neck in Divers. I still waiting for them to come out with a great Pilot GMT watch! I hear you Ken....I had been anxiously awaiting the new Pilot from Debaufre...when the new Aero Gent Officer pilot model was revealed...I have to admit I was let down by the design path that had been taken. But...I have to admit that I'm really liking some of the new pilot designs coming out of Steinhart...the thing that has been the biggest surprise for me is the (apparently deliberate) different design paths that Debaufre and Steinhart seem to be taking going into the 2010 models. They are really departing from each other much more than in the past where historically the "brand" marking was the only significant difference between the watch models. I could go for a Pilot GMT model from this brand in a heartbeat!!! |
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stew77 Admin
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DM71 wrote: I was waiting for this one since a saw the prototype on Oceanictime, a few months ago. Like you Chris, I love everything about this timepiece. There is not one thing I would change and I can assure you that you will read my review on this one in 2010! This is the nicest diver ever made by this company IMHO. It's a winner!!! I'm with you Daniel...Man, have I told you that you have excellent taste in timepieces!!!!!;) :D Cannot wait to read your review!!!hand6.gif...I have a hard time believing that 2010 will close without this one finding a place into my watch box as well. |
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Devin 3T WIS 
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Hey Stew i am a big fan of Steinhart and have one on order but when it came to the Triton I just felt the new Orsa that is coming out was too close in looks and offered a much better value! Just my feeling on it, but if it sings to you by all means buy it and post some watch porn for us all to enjoy!yahoo.gif |
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SBD 3T WIS
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I have to say that I'm REALLY watching this one. The aesthetics are HOT! yourock.gif The "busy" dial doesn't bother me since I don't need a tool diver. The various finishes and materials look great too, right down to the beautiful brushed clasp. But what really gets my attention is that this beast is only 14mm thick and weighs less than 200g! you guys will know better than me, but I don't think I've seen another boutigue diver hit 1000m that's this thin and light. I could actually wear it without buffing up my left arm!  I know that there are folks that like their divers to be thick n' heavy, but I'm personally moving away from that myself. So this new Triton is pretty much spot-on for me. Can't wait to see more! |
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sang1911 3T WIS 
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The Triton 100ATM is definitely a stunner. I really like it.hearteyes.gifhearteyes.gifhearteyes.gif And for your guys think it looked bit busy because of its duo tone appearance. A DLC model is in the pipeline but don't know when it is available. And I'll get the DLC one in a heartbeat. Attachment: tri100001.jpg (Downloaded 144 times) Last edited on Sun Jan 17th, 2010 03:08 am by sang1911 |
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Focal 3T WIS
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Oooo, now the black DLC version looks MUCH nicer to me, the black/orange combo is AMAZING! That would override the business, and with that little black accent on the HEV? YES! |
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Dan01 3T WIS
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The black one should be availble by March according to the thread at WUS. The finish is supposed to very extremely scratch resistant according to him as well. I honk the all black would look great. He also mentioned it should be the same price. Dan |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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Yes, the dial is busy but this kind may be a visual advantage when you dive...? To help on better visibility in troubled waters I mean. From my guess, the 14mm in thickness should be enough for the 1000m requiered. If you got 3mmm thick back, you're more than good and the 11mm above should do the trick as the 2824-2 mvt is 5mm thick. Anyway, this "low diver" could be an advantage as a tool-watch because it would not grab/hook everywhere. Offcourse it take out some of the chunky look but I guess that if Steinhart compressed the all sandwich, it was in a practical view. What do you think? I like the look anyway! But will wait to see the new Aqualuna  |
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Crue4 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote: I think it is awesome but I would have liked it more if they had left the orange lume circle off the dial hand6.gifhand6.gif My sentiments exactly... why or why did they have to do that? |
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joecb 3T WIS 
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the black DLC version definitely has my vote.....I would have preferred the dial w/o the orange ring, and instead all markers in orange, cleaner display on the dial would have been nice.... that said....I think the orange ring will grow on me and I will be saving for this one...I have been contemplating the 500m triton....but with this one out...it is going to be my 2010 dive watch purchase. edit; forgot to mention....the lume....what I do like about the orange ring is the contrast lume against the hour markers....thats a nice touch IMHO Last edited on Fri Jan 22nd, 2010 03:13 pm by joecb |
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stew77 Admin
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Trent, SBD, Sang, Focal, Dan, Hammer, Crue, Joe...thanks for the honest assessment...that's what makes the world of WIS a great place!!! Trent - I really want to add this one and provide you with the obligatory watch porn right now...but you know the struggle...the disease...too many great watches...what to bring in to the fold first?...ah...the struggle...this one will arrive sometime in 2010... SBD...sang...Hammer...agree with your guys comments...however, the Blasted/DLC and ALL DLC options are both singing to me...sweet!!!hand6.gif Joe - agree, the dial design with the "orange lume circle" that you look at in the daytime and say...hmm...ok..........at night, the contrasting lume between the orange circle and contrasting lume hour markers has one saying...ah...I get it!!!yourock.gif Thanks for the replies all.... |
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kdsarch 3T WIS 
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The watch is 15.8 mm thick. The 14 mm on their website is a misprint. How do I know? Because I am wearing it right now... I like it for being so different from teh majority of the other divers that I own. I agree that the dial may be a little busy, but it is in keeping with the overall design. |
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stew77 Admin
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kdsarch wrote: The watch is 15.8 mm thick. The 14 mm on their website is a misprint. Well kdsarch....Huge congrats!!!! ..."wearing it right now"....hey, don't just tease me like that :) Would love to see some pics and wristshots including hearing your initial impressions after getting to check it out in person. ...feel free to post up when you have the time.... |
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kdsarch 3T WIS
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So far I really like it. I took some quick and dirty pictures to realize that I left my card reader at the office. Hopefully I will get a chance to post them tomorrow. I only have about five of them, so you would think I would have one with me... I like the dial, not too busy for my tastes. Legibility is great for telling time. I still am not sure as to the date window. It appears that the numberal on the two digit dates gets cut off by the window a little bit. The bead blasted case is top notch. The rubber strap is probably the best surprise to the package. It is thick at the lugs probably about 6-7 mm, and it has a nice groove down the middle of it to the buckle. The only downside is that there is not a dive suit extension. It would have been nice to see one similar to Sinn's large buckle. The inside of the strap also is textured vs flat so it sits nice on the wrist. The hex lugs are pretty cool too, I like those so much better than screwed lugs, which I prefer over springbars. The case also has notches on the sides to accommodate the extra thick strap. That was good thinking in advance on Steinhart's part. I think that Steinhart is going to produce a metal bracelet for it as well. I have found that for me larger watches wear better on rubber. Usually I swap the band on a watch as soon as I get it since most aftermarket bands are better than the o.e.m. bands. Not in this case, this one is staying on. Plus it has four sizing holes on each side so it is very easy to get a perfect fit. The crown at 4 is a great size. I have a Triton from two years ago and the crown is too small. This is a much better size and works flawlessly. The watch has gained on an average of 3 1/2 seconds per day for the past few days. So that is pretty good. The only thing that I can think of that would make this package better would be to have the metal bracelet ready. Other than that, it has all of the ingredients of a great dive watch. I really think the overall quality and execution is great. Hopefully this helps. |
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stew77 Admin
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Thanks for the detailed comments kdsarch...yes, very helpful!!yourock.gif Sounds like you are very happy with this one so far. You touched on all the details regarding the design and finish of this new Triton that pop to mind when looking at the pics posted from Steinhart. The only surprise to me is the comment regarding the date window which may clip double digit dates. It certainly sounds like this one lives up to that typical "great build quality" that those that have experienced Steinhart (and Debaufre) timepieces know very well....appears it also came very well regulated from Steinhart if your are running consistently 3-4 seconds fast per day out of the gate.cool10.gif Can't wait to see your pics!!! |
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ncvol17 3T WIS 
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I thought Steinhart had to change their name to Debrafre Educate me, is it Debraufre in the US and Steinhart outside the US? |
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stew77 Admin
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ncvol17 wrote: I thought Steinhart had to change their name to Debrafre Educate me, is it Debraufre in the US and Steinhart outside the US? Well...ncvol17...I'm sure that there are some great WIS's here at 3T that know what is really going on between Steinhart and Debaufre. ...here is what I have heard (but I have no basis as to what is truth and current now that we are in 2010). Debaufre was originally set up to be Steinhart's USA distributor, and you will notice that the product lines looked identical except for very minor dial badging and maybe a few color option differences. I have recently read (but have no knowledge that this is fact) that the Steinhart / Debaufre partnership is over. Like I said, I have no idea if this is really the case...the one thing that I have noticed is that the new designs from these two companies seem to be diverging quite a bit. In particular, the new pilots from these companies and the NEW Triton from both really have taken different design paths. One thing I do know, they both produce great quality timepieces at very, very reasonable prices. |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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Chris, thanks for your inputs. I'm learning from you. While I've read that Steinhart owns Debaufre', I was always under the impression that the name differences were just for product positioning and branding objectives. Their alleged "split" is new to me but thanks for this info, amigo ;). I just hope their sweet price points for great quality is sustained.hand6.gif |
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kdsarch 3T WIS
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Here they are:        |
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stew77 Admin
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bigrustypig wrote: Chris, thanks for your inputs. I'm learning from you. While I've read that Steinhart owns Debaufre', I was always under the impression that the name differences were just for product positioning and branding objectives. Their alleged "split" is new to me but thanks for this info, amigo ;). No problem Jeff...I'm hoping that someone that REALLY knows what's up might either confirm or deny the partnership between these two ending. I agree with you though...hoping their great quality products and sweet price points continue... |
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stew77 Admin
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kdsarch wrote: Here they are: Woo...hoo!!!...KD...that is what I'm talkin' about.woohoo.gif Looks sweet!!  A great looking piece and I'm liking the unique dial (even though it's busier than what I typically go for). Case detail/quality and lume looks spectacular as well!!! ...this one deserved a separate post over in the New Arrivals section here at 3T. Big congrats on your new arrival!!! |
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JCrad 3T WIS
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stew77 wrote:ncvol17 wrote:I thought Steinhart had to change their name to Debrafre Educate me, is it Debraufre in the US and Steinhart outside the US? http://www.debaufre.com/lp/history/Welcome.html Perhaps this page explains it? Where did you read about a split?Call what you will, I love my Steinhart watch. |
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SBD 3T WIS
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It's awesome to see pix of the Triton 100 out in the wild. Thanks very much for posting them! The overall package seems to maintain the presence it had in the publicity photos. The PVD bezel, the cool He valve... Pretty slick, really. The rubber strap looks like a monster -- seriously looks over-engineered, which is terrific for a big dive watch like that. The lume-shot is quite the show with the lumed bezel + orange accents. The down-side is that it's hard to read. I actually had to go back to the non-lume picture to figure out where the hour-hand was. But from a purely aesthetic standpoint, all that lume sure is purdy. Congrats to you on a cool piece! yourock.gif |
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lincolnunit 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote: I think it is awesome but I would have liked it more if they had left the orange lume circle off the dial hand6.gifhand6.gif I agree with you on the 'day' shot; but that orange 'night' lume shot is FREAKIN' AWESUM!! Any input on how the bezel action is...? |
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kdsarch 3T WIS
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Thanks guys. The bezel is 120 clicks and no slops. It works perfect, and lines up perfectly. So far no worries. And, I think this has to be the best rubber strap that I have purchased with a watch. The only downside as I mentioned is no deployant. |
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joecb 3T WIS
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great photo's ...it really is a great looking watch....I will be getting the Black DLC version.. |
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DM71 3T WIS
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joecb wrote: great photo's ...it really is a great looking watch....I will be getting the Black DLC version.. Ditto hand6.gif |
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sharkfin 3T WIS 
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Whoa, this is very NICE! I'm liking this beaute. I agree, its confusing to read in lume but could get the hang of no prob. I'm liking the lume sexiness. Stunning. This little baby is moving up the list for me. ;) Thanks Stew77 & KD for the great pics. Dave |
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alldaron 3T WIS 
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Firstly: I wanted to share my opinion on the steinhart 1000m triton. I like the design, I like the pvd case, very smooth looking. I can see what people are saying about the orange ring on the dial, but I like the contrast. The buckle wouldn't be my first choice, but overall I feel the watch is a nice creation. Secondly: I've read a bunch of confusion about the relationship between Debaufre and Steinhart and I wanted to officially comment about it. My father (Jon D.) and I started this company about 5 years ago in the U.S. under the name of Steinhart. We picked the Steinhart name because the guy we had employed as our designer, at the time, had that name. We built up a reputation for service and quality products. Two years into it, we were threatened with a lawsuit from Steinhausen to change our name. We decided not to be in court for the next few years, so after long research we found the historic name of Debaufre. Once the change went into effect, our designer decided he didn't want to work for a company not bearing his name and abruptly abandoned us, went back to Germany, took our past designs with him and started his own little company. He is not associated with us. Regardless we don't hold a grudge and contrary to our attorney's legal advice, we don't intend to pursue legal actions. With my father recently retiring and the addition of Brandon (our new CEO) and a few other key individuals, some fundamental changes are in progress for Debaufre. To clarify, we are still a U.S. based company, we still maintain the strictest attention to customer service and exceptional manufacturing and we are building up to be a global company. What's changing is the underlying definition of our stylistic branding, slowly transitioning from traditional homage pieces to custom designed pieces. Naturally in any evolution there's going to be some misses among the hits and not every design is going to resonate with everyone, but this is to be expected. Our vision for the future of Debaufre is as a unique brand, but the road to that goal traverses peaks and valleys. We regularly conduct design surveys and gather advice from watch aficionados to guide our creative compass. Our recent releases, including our 2000m Triton, are a first step towards that goal. Each design resonates with a different expectation of function and style, granted perhaps not the duplicate homage pieces you are used to, but viewed under unbiased light and given a fair chance, these watches are great in their own right. Remember that many of our designs are a direct result of the input from fellow members on the watch forums. I hope this clarifies any remaining confusion surrounding Debaufre and the German off-shoot company. If you have any questions, please let us know. ~ Alldaron (president of Debaufre) Last edited on Sat Feb 20th, 2010 07:21 pm by alldaron |
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ndburley 3T WIS 
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I really like it, I dont think the dial is that busy but some of my watches are totally messy. Overall its a really neat watch IMO. smile8.gif |
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alldaron 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: I have nothing but respect for all of the Steinhart/Debaufre offerrings, but I'm up to my neck in Divers. I still waiting for them to come out with a great Pilot GMT watch! We have a pilot GMT called the Nav-B. The details are viewable on our site, but the pic looks like this.  |
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DM71 3T WIS
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alldaron wrote: KenC wrote:I have nothing but respect for all of the Steinhart/Debaufre offerrings, but I'm up to my neck in Divers. I still waiting for them to come out with a great Pilot GMT watch! Thanks for joining us Allderon!!! Like Ken and most members here at 3T, I have a lot of respect for your company. So welcome to 3T. I also want to congratulate you for the effort Débaufré is been putting to keep competitive prices and the highest standards in every timepieces it produces. You're company has been recognized as high quality timepieces in a very short period of time and with all these new companies popping out everywhere, it's nice to see that Débaufré is still standing apart IMHO. That new Nav-B GMT is very sweet. I'm usually not a fan of Pilot watches on ss bracelet, I can almost say it's against my religion ;), but for some reasons, I like that GMT. Ha well, I must be a Débaufré Fan-boy I guess :D Daniel |
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