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exc-hulk Moderator 
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I got an mail from Gnomon Watches today. The new DIEVAS Maya Dievas Maya          I like the bulky overall look of the watch very much. The dial and handset looks awesome too. Hot matte finish  What's are your thoughts guys ? Last edited on Fri Nov 8th, 2013 01:14 pm by exc-hulk |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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liking this one,cool bezel and dial...happy to see Anders get away from the Vortex look. |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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I like the rough look…Seems like a piece that will take it all in the face without blinking. Ok, the case is proudly made in Germany: Great thing but the dial is a bit empty down there: "Made in…?" |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Agree with Herr Philipp. Robust case for sure. Bezel and dial work well. I love the big, fat hands....easy to tell time at night. Agree with the Sheriff. Where is this made? Safe to assume it's made in Germany? |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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bigrustypig wrote:Agree with Herr Philipp. Robust case for sure. Bezel and dial work well. I love the big, fat hands....easy to tell time at night. Agree with the Sheriff. Where is this made? Safe to assume it's made in Germany? Anders replied to my email....Maya is made in Germany. |
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exc-hulk Moderator
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Thanks for update Jeff ! It is also written in the second paragraph. http://www.gnomonwatches.com/watches/dievas-watches/maya |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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bigrustypig wrote:bigrustypig wrote: As I said in my previous post: "Ok, the case is proudly made in Germany: Great thing but the dial is a bit empty down there: "Made in…?" |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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exc-hulk wrote:Thanks for update Jeff ! The point is not where the case is told to be made: This is very clearly told in the description and I´ve been reading it like everybody. My point was: Since it don´t stands on the down dial, where it´s "Made-in-?" ? Or should I be more precise: Where is it assembled then? And why the dial is empty down there? Because since the Vortex generation, all watches had the "Made in Germany" stamp down the dial: But the Maya don´t... |
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Halvis 3T WIS 
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If memory serves, the MAYA isn't the first DIEVAS that lacked the "MADE IN GERMANY" on the face, and some of us voiced our discontent with that then. Anders makes those decisions, as he should. If ya don't like it, don't buy it. Frankly I'd like to see it on there, but I can't afford one given my current situation, so my opinion counts for squat! lol |
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Blackwolf 3T WIS
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IMHO first thing first is not easy to made the dial because Maya is a anti-magnetic watch, and the anti-magnetic include the dial. This may contribute to why Ander decided not to include the " Made In Germany " on Maya. This is actually a painful decision in term of marketing the watch. |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Blackwolf wrote:IMHO first thing first is not easy to made the dial because Maya is a anti-magnetic watch, and the anti-magnetic include the dial. This may contribute to why Ander decided not to include the " Made In Germany " on Maya. The anti-magnetic dial would be a dial with a double layer of soft iron under the normal dial or a dial fully made in anti-magnetic material: Nothing else… What ever you write on the dial concerns the first layer or the surface of the dial and is anyway only a paint job which has nothing to do with the anti-magnetism property. Any anti-magnetic metal can receive a full paint job. If you can write "antimagnetic" on the dial, you can certainly write "Made in Germany" I was more pointing at the fact that Anders might didn´t get it printed because the watch might be assembled in another country than Germany. Now I don´t know why and how but it don´t seems like Anders is decided to point out the final reason since I believe that he read his own forum corner at 3T. He might also not connect any deep interest in what is written on the dial…After all, it´s a matter of opinion and need. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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the dial can be made anywhere in the world and has no bearing on a anti magnetic case,nor whether Made in Germany is on the dial...and personally I see no difference if the watch was assembled in Germany or by Anders German watchmaker in his shop in Singapore since there are no regulations or laws being enforced on Made in Germany to begin with,what is important is the quality of the craftsmanship and the integrity of the brand and I know Anders has delivered that since day one. |
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anders213 3T WIS 
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Hi guys, How is everyone? Seems like a while ago since I’ve logged on here. However I do check the forum very often and I appreciate all the good things said about our brand and keep all the objective criticisms in mind especially when developing new models. So keep the comments coming good or bad. Regarding the DIEVAS MAYA, like all our watches since the first tactical vortex model . It is MADE IN Germany. Our designer left out the ‘MIG’ designation on the dial purely as a design choice. Theres a large font MADE IN GERMANY engraved on the caseback. The case is CNC (not stamped) in Germany , dial is from Germany, hands and movement is from Switzerland. Leather strap is made in Italy. Our 6steel is done in Germany with a very large metallurgy company. (Not kolsterising).. Gnomonwatches herself does not have any input in the manufacturing of the watch. Her role is to distribute and provide swift after sales service for our watches. Gnomonwatches is not only a well established watch sales company on the WWW world but has penetration into retail stores across Asia, particularly in South Asia. They have full servicing facility and hires Swiss (WOSTEP) trained watchmakers. 2 of them have combined 30 years working with Rolex servicing. Why do we need retail stores? Because to manufacture a watch in Germany, with real Germany/Swiss parts, cost is high, about 4-5 times more, than to do a watch in china/hongkong. Swiss ETA movements alone, has gone up 300% in the last 2 years and 500% if compared to 7yrs ago. Cost is high = RRP is high. Customers need to touch and feel the quality of the watch in their hand before they commit on a more expensive watch. How to make our watches attractive to potential buyers? 1 word. QUANTITY. We order our watch parts, cases, movements, straps, watch hands in large quantity so to get a better price and pass on the savings to our customers. We don’t take any pre orders so all the funding comes internally. Imagine how much it cost to buy 2000 eta movements, 100 tons of german SS steel, 1000 italian leather straps even packaging boxes. All our profits go into ordering more parts for our next models. So there’s no year end dividends, just a lot of inventory piled up. Silly strategy our accountants tell us, but we believe in our brand and hopefully it will pay off. Things are picking up, we work around the clock , 7 day weeks. We have more orders than watches to sell. So that’s a good sign. As for the MAYA, it is our most expensive model to date, but compared, can anyone find a true German made watch with our specs and 6steel case hardening that works and cost less? If anyone can, I like to know how they do it too. Anyways I think I’ve spoken too much, hope I don’t come across as too long winded, just like to share some insights of what’s going on behind the scene. Have a good day folks, stay healthy and enjoy the rest of the weekend. Sincerely, Anders Dievas Uhren Technik Last edited on Sat Nov 23rd, 2013 05:51 am by anders213 |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Thanks for passing by Anders and being explicit about the role of Dievas in the watch conception. I personally don´t see what was wrong with the classic "M-I-G" for that the designer would pass on it… His choice. My personal opinion is that it can be a plus for the marketing. Quality is there for sure as usual: Great thing! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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good to hear from you Anders and TY for clearing that up my friend!  |
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