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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 08:10 am |
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BERG 3T WIS 
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since eta 2824-2 movements are hard to get , would it be cool is i release a sea angler quartz with a ronda 515 or 715 li swiss made , what do you think? Berg
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 09:02 am |
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BERG 3T WIS
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please vote.....
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 09:22 am |
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Danny S 3T WIS 
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BERG wrote: since eta 2824-2 movements are hard to get , would it be cool is i release a sea angler quartz with a ronda 515 or 715 li swiss made , what do you think? Just my 2cents worth here. But I'd look for other options before I went to a quartz motor. My Oris divers were Sellita equiped. Extremely accurate, nice looking movements. Might be worth looking into. Many of us would rather see a Swiss auto movemnt, but it that proves impossible I'd buy a SeaAngler with an asian self-winder before I'd spend money on a quartz watch. A kinetic movement is as close to quartz as I can get. Just don't like the idea of having to open a water resistant caseback routinely for battery changes. That's just me though! hand6.gif
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 12:03 pm |
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ebiz4me 3T WIS 
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I've owned 2 Sea Anglers and liked them both. I'd go for another one with quartz - depending on the price. Everyone needs at least one quartz watch. Makes it easy to set the autos by ;)
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 12:34 pm |
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hucky 3T WIS 
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If it means the difference between Orsa making a living or not making a living, then Id support you either way.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 01:05 pm |
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teddyhanna Guest
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BERG wrote: since eta 2824-2 movements are hard to get , would it be cool is i release a sea angler quartz with a ronda 515 or 715 li swiss made , what do you think? I could go with the 515 Berg, but I like Danny's view on the Sellita too.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 01:49 pm |
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trust 3T WIS 
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I'm with Dannys view...no Quartz for a Sea Angler... maybe you found a alternative here..it's a Jointventure of Sellita and Muehle Glashuette or a Claro Semang what's in the Zodiac Oceanaire..
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 02:48 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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I wouldn't mind seeing a Swiss Made Sea Angler in a Chrono/Quartz version with the Orange dial and Black bezel!hand6.gif
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 02:59 pm |
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ebiz4me 3T WIS
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Now you're talking.....orange dial / black bezel sounds good. There's an automatic and quartz version of the Marathon....why not the Sea Angler. Isn't there a swiss quartz movement out there with sweeping second hand? oagaspar wrote: I wouldn't mind seeing a Swiss Made Sea Angler in a Chrono/Quartz version with the Orange dial and Black bezel!hand6.gif
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 06:32 pm |
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BERG 3T WIS
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The 715LI as lithium 10 year battery life , the 515 is 48 months . the sea angler is very popular , why not making a quartz version? , the price will be lower and the watch will be the same , i could make a orange and yellow dial. Berg
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 06:42 pm |
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SandBaggerOne 3T WIS
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I'd be interested in thermo-compensated quartz, like the ETA 955.652. There's nothing wrong with quartz if it's quality. A mechanical watch should be opened every 3-5 years for service and new seals anyway, so battery changes are really a non-issue in my opinion. Cheers, Colin
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 06:43 pm |
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SandBaggerOne 3T WIS
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The 715 is pretty nice too.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 07:00 pm |
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scottymac 3T WIS
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Ack. I'm no fan of quartz personally. Seems too cold and lifeless even though there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. I just prefer the soul of an automatic. My vote would be a Sellita SW200. Every watch I've had with one has been excellent. For that matter, why not a Miyota like in the Monstrum? I'm sure it'd be cool regardless.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 08:16 pm |
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BERG 3T WIS
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the miyota will not fit the sea angler case , the ronda 515 and 715 are a perfect fit.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 08:24 pm |
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song31 3T WIS
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I agree with that and Id be up for yellow especially nice as a 10 year battery quartz at a lower price- (good point on opening up mechanicals same as quartz)
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 08:34 pm |
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KenC Admin 
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I have never been a quartz fan...while I found the original ORSA's very appealing, I refrained from purchasing one because they were quartz. That said, I do love the design of the Sea Angler. I could force myself to go quartz (gawd help me) if it was something different in look from the auto Sea Angler....I would go for a quartz Sea Angler Chronograph!
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 08:46 pm |
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srh_pres 3T WIS 
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I think I just saw a donkey fly by the window...  KenC wrote: ...I would go for a quartz...
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 08:55 pm |
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KenC Admin
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srh_pres wrote: I think I just saw a donkey fly by the window... Stevo! Just trying to be supportive...and if Berg could do a unique chronograph dial in a Sea Angler case...I could sorta, kinda, maybe go for it!!! 
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 08:57 pm |
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srh_pres 3T WIS
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Hah... I would go for it too... hand6.gif KenC wrote: srh_pres wrote:I think I just saw a donkey fly by the window...
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 09:05 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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If the 715 fits the case perfect and will make a affordable Sea Angler that everyone can enjoy....I'm all for it Berg!hand6.gifhand6.gif...it would make a Awesome daily wearer imho yourock.gif.....and if the bracelet would be ready at the same time.... 
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 09:08 pm |
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aawil 3T WIS 
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I don't see a problem with it. I mean even the seamaster comes in a quartz. I own one so it doesn't bother me too much. Just as long as none of the previous angler colors are used. I do really like the idea of a chrono. Not sure how difficult that would be for Berg to pull off.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 09:16 pm |
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BERG 3T WIS
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the chrono might be a cool project for next year , i might go to basel this spring...
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 09:33 pm |
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BERG 3T WIS
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here is the pic of sea angler with RONDA 515 
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 09:56 pm |
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teddyhanna Guest
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srh_pres wrote: Hah... I would go for it too... hand6.gif "Don't you love it, when a plan comes together"..BERG 
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 10:05 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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BERG wrote: If you go to Basel let me know Berg...I am trying to adjust my schedule to make the trip also and it's cheaper to book 2 WIS!!!hand6.gif the chrono might be a cool project for next year , i might go to basel this spring...
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 10:05 pm |
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Eric L. 3T WIS 
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My preference would be for an automatic movement. The suggestions above to try either the Selitta SW200 or ClaroSemag CL888 are good ones - they are 2824-2 clones I believe.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 10:12 pm |
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BERG 3T WIS
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got it O hand6.gif
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 10:15 pm |
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Billy S. 3T WIS 
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Hi Berg Thanks for the chance to get involved with one of your projects. Its nice to know you value our opinions. That counts alot. I like the automatic as a first choice BUT Quartz is fine ( high quality, 10 yr.). At a good price point. The Sea Angler is a quality timepiece and im sure it will stay the same whatever movement you use. Im not a fan of the chronograph but Ill buy one if you do put it in a Sea Angler. JMO Billy S
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 10:16 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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BERG wrote: It would be a Awesome Time Berg!...and we would hook up with Tim Temple there who has been at Basel a dozen times  got it O hand6.gif
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 10:20 pm |
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Eric L. 3T WIS
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Oh I would also prefer non-chrono, since chronos have limited usage in or out of the water (lets face it, even your cell phone has a digital stopwatch that is more useful than a chrono). But if you do make a Sea Angler chrono, I wish you the best of luck. I echo O's suggestion of an orange sea angler with black bezel (and black hands please).
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 09:36 am |
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ipoppa33 3T WIS
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I would definitely buy a quartz, although not a fan of chrono divers. If you want to dial colors, I vote for the silver or orange dial. Thanks. Stan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 01:08 pm |
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Encap 3T WIS
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How many people really want a $10 or less quartz watch like a Ronda 515 or 715, in a case of whatever cost or kind and have a hard time locating one that fits their needs? I for one would much rather pay a small production speciality watch producer $100 additional rather than $100 less and have a good quality mechanical movement watch. I would much rather see you go the other way and use the more expensive ETA 2892 - A2 which is better quality than a basic 2824. Maybe offer an option for those who don't care and/or don't want to spend the extra $'s. If you really can not obtain Eta 2824's or 2892's then suggest you check out the Sellita SW200 and SW300 as many have done. See http://www.sellita.ch The heart and soul of a watch to me is it's mechanical movement -- otherwise I might as well use my cell phone for the time. Last edited on Thu Nov 15th, 2007 10:22 pm by Encap |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 04:01 pm |
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bryku2 3T WIS 
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Berg, ETA 2824-2 is a really good "horse"! Besides (in my oppinion) the quartz watch is the watch without the soul..:) If you need my support please let me know Rgds Marcin
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 04:27 pm |
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IWR222 3T WIS 
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I would buy a quartz or kinetic . ten year battery life sounds good worth paying a bit extra to keep the seals intact. have you thought about a pepsi style blue and red or blue and orange? if only i could work the photoshop buttons.... ian
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 04:28 pm |
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sjedwardz 3T WIS 
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Generally I don't like quartz movements - nothing against them just souless to me. I'd prefer some form of mechanical any day. However would be interested in quarts for a chronograph - reliable mechanical chronos are just too expensive.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 05:37 pm |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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JMHO. No quartz. In fact if its quartz its not a Sea Angler except in looks. The Sea Angler is what it is... one of the best automatic diver watches ever... To make a quartz version ruins the mystique for me and imho degrades the mark. See the aforementioned Seamaster as example... Again to be sure...THIS IS JUST ONE OPINION AND IS NOT MEANT TO BASH OR CHALLENGE.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 07:18 pm |
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BERG 3T WIS
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i agree that a mechanical is different from a quartz but since the 2824 movements are impossible to get right now and that the sellita as not proven to be reliable , the only way to get some sea anglers on the market is a quartz , the price will be very interesting too , imagine , i could do a completely different dial !!! orange , yellow , mop.....
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 07:44 pm |
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srh_pres 3T WIS
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Here's a off-the-wall shot - how about using some Vostok movements, maybe even the 2426 31 jewel mvmt, add a hand and make it a GMT Sea Angler? BERG wrote: i agree that a mechanical is different from a quartz but since the 2824 movements are impossible to get right now and that the sellita as not proven to be reliable , the only way to get some sea anglers on the market is a quartz , the price will be very interesting too , imagine , i could do a completely different dial !!! orange , yellow , mop.....
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 07:53 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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srh_pres wrote: the movement must fit the case Here's a off-the-wall shot - how about using some Vostok movements, maybe even the 2426 31 jewel mvmt, add a hand and make it a GMT Sea Angler?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 07:59 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Berg said in his opening post that eta movements were not available(hard to get) and the sw200 is in the same boat...it's not a question of what movement to use or what we prefer but what is available that will fit the Sea Angler case....with that in mind Berg would like to make a Sea Angler using one of the 2 Ronda quartz movements available and it would be Swiss Made ...available in both Orange and Yellow dials and will be ready asap rather than wait who knows how long for eta or selitta movements to come available and not at the exagerated cost everyone is seeing....so if we had a choice of No Sea Angler at all opposed to getting a Swiss Made Ronda quartz version at a reasonable price what would the members of 3T and WIS in general prefer....I hope this enlightens everyonehand6.gif
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 08:08 pm |
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Billy S. 3T WIS
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Hi Lets get another SEA ANGLER on the drawing board. Quartz is better than nothing and Berg can always make another model when the autos become more available. All the Sea Anglers can be made SPECIAL. also the quartz may make it easier for those of us with limited watch budgets to get in on a TOP QUALITY DIVER. JMHO Billy S
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 08:21 pm |
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teddyhanna Guest
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Berg I'm in, until the wheels fall off brother, Berg just send me the prototype. Hey since were going quartz, can you send me soom extra batteries too heheh......... Last edited on Mon Nov 12th, 2007 08:23 pm by |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 08:21 pm |
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Chick Hazzard 3T WIS 
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Swiss quartz yes! Orange dial...YES! Call me anything you want, but I prefer Swiss quartz over Japanese automatic... Sorry... Oh... You can call me anything you want, just don't call me late to dinner.:P
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 10:01 pm |
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Jeff T 3T WIS 
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hand6.gifAm I the only one wetting my pants over a possible YELLOW dial! WOOHOO!!! woohoo.gifsmile8.gif hand6.gif
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 10:25 pm |
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Crazy Cajun 3T WIS
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BERG wrote: The 715LI as lithium 10 year battery life , the 515 is 48 months . Send me an invoice for a yellow dial 300M 715Li Sea Angler and I would pay it.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 12:21 am |
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IanM 3T WIS 
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Berg - it seems that 3Ters are like most people out there - some form of Sea Angler is better than none! If the price is right, I think it will probably sell. And I might be tempted to buy one - for no reason other than to support your company for the good work it does, and the way you look after your clients. I am not generally a fan of battery powered watches. Yes - we all know about those that are out there, but the cheap end of the battery-powered market is already serviced by some big brands. My poll vote, but only because you asked for it, is yes. Selfishly, I would like an Li Black Sea Angler if it could be done cheaply (and what are you suggesting, Berg, a battery powered Sea Angler for less than the price of the Monstrum?). But I reckon the majority would probably like to see a non-chrono, Li version with some differences to the existing models so that the uninitiated and those who invested in the Sea Angler LE can distinguish between the automatics and the battery versions. Just MHO!!! IanM
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14th, 2007 04:30 pm |
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Jackson 3T WIS
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BIG YES for a quartz Sea Angler. In fact, I would buy two right now, silver and yellow. The MOP is a GREAT idea, RED would be even better (not just because its mine) It sounds like im in for 4 now!!!....Not enough unique high quality quartz divers out there in my opinion. A Sea Angler would fit right in there with some of the big boy quartz divers. Big, bold, tough quartz diver at a fair price... Berg, quit reading this and GET TO WORK!!!!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2007 03:01 am |
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Eric L. 3T WIS
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I still much prefer an automatic over a quartz but I guess we will have to see what the price point is on a quartz Sea Angler. Why won't the Miyota automatics fit in the Sea Angler case, if the case is essentially the same as the Monstrum? I would however, go for a Quartz Sea Angler over a chrono Sea Angler regardless of movement. Chronos just don't match with diver watches, and the extra hands just adds to the clutter, making the time harder to read. The pushers also add another point where a seal can fail and water can get in. Besides, who uses a chrono to time anything nowadays anyways? Its more accurate to use the stopwatch on your cell phone. Last edited on Thu Nov 15th, 2007 03:04 am by Eric L. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16th, 2007 12:10 am |
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Mike6000 3T WIS 
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Martin, a quartz would be as indicated before competition for the other companies that have provided quartz divers, (maybe even with nice little glowing capsules for illumination? Or, have you given thought to using the SW200 movement vice ETAs? Tks Mike
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