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 Posted: Sat Jul 9th, 2011 01:49 pm
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Hammerfjord wrote: oagaspar wrote:


for the same $400. deposit and at $100. less you can pre-order a H2O watch with custom dials and components...WR tested (6000m) way beyond it's capability.
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http://www.h2o-watch.com/

The Kalmar is also in titanium...
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stew77 wrote: oagaspar wrote: I like the design Chris,but I have my doubts on the builder,his experience with watches in general,which no one has even asked once,and who he is paying to do the 1st review,who everyone knows only produces positive reviews in trade for watches.
..I wish Ben the  best,but whenever I hear,"Chinese cases being shipped off to Switzerland for final assembly and inspection",I just don't see that plane taking off from China...price the watch accordingly and I'm there.
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Yes...fair enough, and I agree...within the current watch industry (with likely some big names included too), it seems like "it's not a matter of what is true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true that counts", which as we all know is a shame.

It seems like all we can do is our best due diligence...and seek the best advice that we can from those in the know...I appreciate the inputs guys.

Ben seems like a good guy, and like you I wish him the best...I must admit he really has me with a compelling design.

 
from what I have learned myself in pm's,and from what I have read,Ben is a great guy imo...I can also understand being excited and anxious to get a design out...lets just hope it all equates to a watch worthy of the hype it is getting on WUS.I remember the same hype over there about a couple brands and projects,all of which just seem to dissipate after their release.

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oagaspar wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: oagaspar wrote:


for the same $400. deposit and at $100. less you can pre-order a H2O watch with custom dials and components...WR tested (6000m) way beyond it's capability.
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http://www.h2o-watch.com/

The Kalmar is also in titanium...
and Made In Germany! ThumbsUp02.gif

I wasn't sure about that Oscar! You have concrete infos?

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oagaspar wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: Kalmar with Swiss ETA 2836-2 GMT...???
Since when ETA made 2836-2 with GMT complication?
I smell Bull Kong
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I like the looks of the Kalmar but as Will stated not with that replica eta GMT in it...and you all know how I feel about that movement!dog smile.gif

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sparkii wrote:
oagaspar wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: Kalmar with Swiss ETA 2836-2 GMT...???
Since when ETA made 2836-2 with GMT complication?
I smell Bull Kong
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I like the looks of the Kalmar but as Will stated not with that replica eta GMT in it...and you all know how I feel about that movement!dog smile.gif

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Yes, the 2836-2 GMT is the cheap GMT version of the 2893-2: With a Chinese module.

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Hammerfjord wrote: oagaspar wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: oagaspar wrote:


for the same $400. deposit and at $100. less you can pre-order a H2O watch with custom dials and components...WR tested (6000m) way beyond it's capability.
ThumbsUp02.gif

http://www.h2o-watch.com/

The Kalmar is also in titanium...
and Made In Germany! ThumbsUp02.gif

I wasn't sure about that Oscar! You have concrete infos?
tested in Germany,my bad...Made by German!...maybe Clemens will chime in on the origins of the Kalmar...ThumbsUp02.gif

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sparkii wrote: oagaspar wroteI like the looks of the Kalmar but as Will stated not with that replica eta GMT in it...and you all know how I feel about that movement!dog smile.gif

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what are you trying to say,that maybe I've changed my mind since saying this, back around your last visit in Feb...?...
   
I still wouldn't buy 1 with that GMT movement or any version of the rep eta 2836 GMT mod.in it......even if the version used in the H2O is the 1 being produced by a Swiss Co.(Leschot S.A),who does a mod to a 2836 which allows it to adapt a 24 hr. hand(I'm not sure if they actually produce the completed eta 2836 GMT mod)
...the eta 2836 GMT does not exist in the eta catalog,and was originally a mod done in India to the Hangzhou 6306,later picked up by the Asians,and used primarily in replica watches...this GMT mod is not reliable and parts if needed for repair down the road are hard to come by.
...I still like the looks of the Kalmar,enough to pre-order 1 with the eta 2824...ThumbsUp02.gif

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Oscar, I hope you don’t mind me dropping.

Most people are quick to judge a watch by the price, most people will underestimate the time and effort that goes into such a creation and the sum of the parts (Top-Grade movement, ceramic lumed bezel, 2000WR and of course all that sexy machine work). I believe that our pricing is fair, we are not the cheapest nor we are not the most expensive. I refuse to cut corners and come out with a diver which is more affordable but not there quality wise. Our aim is not to make a quick buck but to bring killer designs that people will enjoy and something we can be proud of.

Yes we did have some issues with “made in swiss” and our website not launching when we said it would. You have to understand there are so many individual details that require your attention that it’s easy to overlook something. I’ve never heard of a business starting out that never had any issues. We do our best to resolve these issues and learn and make sure they never happen again.

With all that said, I’m very proud to say that everyone that’s had to fortunate experience to see the watch in person has all been pleasantly surprised by the quality. Oceanic times and DEMO both are very well regarded and respected in the forums and will be coming up with their own reviews with are totally unbiased.

Ben

Last edited on Sat Jul 9th, 2011 07:55 pm by TempestBen

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TY Ben
...I am sure you are aware you are not the only one producing a watch with lumed ceramic bezels,high WR cases,or killer designs,and that most knowledgeable WIS know these components are readily available and offered by the manufacturers that are being used by the micro brands.
...so my question is,what is your experience with watches,and what sets Tempest apart from all the other micro brands?

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TempestBen wrote: Oscar, I hope you don’t mind me dropping.

Most people are quick to judge a watch by the price, most people will underestimate the time and effort that goes into such a creation and the sum of the parts (Top-Grade movement, ceramic lumed bezel, 2000WR and of course all that sexy machine work). I believe that our pricing is fair, we are not the cheapest nor we are not the most expensive. I refuse to cut corners and come out with a diver which is more affordable but not there quality wise. Our aim is not to make a quick buck but to bring killer designs that people will enjoy and something we can be proud of.

Yes we did have some issues with “made in swiss” and our website not launching when we said it would. You have to understand there are so many individual details that require your attention that it’s easy to overlook something. I’ve never heard of a business starting out that never had any issues. We do our best to resolve these issues and learn and make sure they never happen again.

With all that said, I’m very proud to say that everyone that’s had to fortunate experience to see the watch in person has all been pleasantly surprised by the quality. Oceanic times and DEMO both are very well regarded and respected in the forums and will be coming up with their own reviews with are totally unbiased.

Ben


Thanks for dropping in Ben!!!  Please don't be a stranger! thumbsup.gif

It's actually very refreshing to see you drop in here and share your long term vision for the Tempest Watch brand.  As you can see, I'm very smitten with the design and design elements of your Viking.  Really love the level of machining I see in your case design, and it certainly seems like doing a high quality ceramic lumed bezel is not easy (in fact, it seems like it can be all to easy to have issues with the lume adhering in the long term if not done properly). 

No doubt there is an extreme amount of hard work involved with launching a successful new watch venture, and no doubt not everything will go as planned...it sure seems like you are in this for all the right reasons and trying to strike a good balance between quality and price.

Thanks again for stopping in...

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Good to see you on 3T Ben. I like your watch alot, the case design is real cool, I love the profile in particular. I also really like the hands and bezel.
It's a beautiful watch, a bit pricey as we discussed. But it seems you are focused on putting out a high quality product. I wish you much success.

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oagaspar wrote:
TY Ben
...I am sure you are aware you are not the only one producing a watch with lumed ceramic bezels,high WR cases,or killer designs,and that most knowledgeable WIS know these components are readily available and offered by the manufacturers that are being used by the micro brands.
...so my question is,what is your experience with watches,and what sets Tempest apart from all the other micro brands?



Oscar, yes your right that I'm not the only one producing a watch with lumed ceramic bezel, high WR case, or killer designs but can you name another watch that is doing all three together?

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