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« La Monegasque » is a new collection created under Georges Kern’s leadership. It is Kern’s first accomplishment since he became CEO of the brand, in 2010. The collection was presented during the SIHH2011, in order to promote the renewal while remaining in the aesthetic path of Roger Dubuis. A great function took place in Monaco on Thursday, October 20, with « stars » attending, especially the creator Christian Louboutin, Daphne Guiness, Tomer Sisley and Richard Berry…

Logically, with such a panel of ambassadors, the « La Monegasque » storytelling refers to the universe of game and luxury casinos. In fact, the eight watches of the collection remain quite discreet. The references and winks to the universe of casinos, such as the « Roulette numbers » indexes, are almost unnoticeable to the untrained eye. Only exceptions, the two superb limited edition chronographs, the « Big Numbers » and the « Club », which is somewhat slumming. The collection is divided into four series of two pieces:

-The automatic « three hands », available in stainless steel or rose gold.



-the automatic Bicompax chronographs with micro-rotor, in rose gold or stainless steel.
Thanks to the stainless steel, this is one of the most affordable « Poincon de Genève » chronos on the market! For that matter, you can admire the caliber RD680 finishes on these snapshots (obviously, it is the same on both versions), bevelings, thin Cotes de Genève, no blued screws, column-wheel, in short it is beautiful, it is sober despite the overall relative complexity.









-The Great complications, with the platinum flying Tourbillon, limited to 28 copies, and the superb QP featuring a magnificent enameled Moon phase.









-Finally, the limited edition chronographs that show the attention to detail from Roger Dubuis, since they feature a different caliber. Paradoxically, the most emblematic piece of this collection is also the most conspicuous; it is the «Club».





Detailed description:

The « Monegasque » is the watch that best symbolizes the style shift initiated at Roger Dubuis by Kern; it synthesizes quite a lot of past and future trends at RD. But first and foremost, it is beautiful. Besides the Tourbillon, it the most limited among the «La Monegasque» editions, with 88 copies. It is unfortunate, as it is one of the most attractive watches at Roger Dubuis since the fabulous «Bulletins d’Observatoire».



The «Bulletins d’Observatoire» constituted a collection of very high-end classic watches, produced at the beginning of the Roger Dubuis adventure, between 1995 and the beginning of the 2000’s.
This collection was hunting on the lands of Patek, Vacheron and Lange. In order to hunt without any hang-ups, Roger Dubuis is one of the rare Houses to have integrated the major part of its production tool on its Meyrin site and to have many homemade calibers.



One of the «Bulletins d’Observatoire» lines was based on the very original «Sympathie» cushion case, which looks like a «tonneau case» thanks to highly integrated lugs. If the finishes, the calibers and the styling of the «Sympathie Bulletins d’Observatoire» did not age, one has to admit that the size, generally 37-38mm, is somewhat dated. Nowadays, the «La Monegasque» collection revisits the «Sympathie» case’s design, but with updated size and style.



The « Monegasque Club » is a rose gold 44mm cushion watch, featuring a Bicompax chronograph and a shimmering dial.
When you wear it, the square case-back is less comfortable than some of the rounded backs featured on other cushion cases; however, the short lugs enable the watch to fit any wrist.
This case shape for this « after crisis » collection is a wise choice; it refers as much to fashionable shapes (cushion, tonneau) as to previous RD cases, and as a result asserts a marked identity.



Another strong point of the fitting, the wristband: as a good Paneristi, OEM wristbands usually bore me; however, the one fitted on this watch is to die for;
The cambered calfskin is studded akin to the Chesterfield sofas; the effect is terrific and adds to the cozy feeling conveyed by the piece.
In the watch creator’s words, about thirty prototypes have been discarded before reaching this result; it was worth it, as it is an exotic wristband made from common hide!



Visually, the watch looks like it is 42mm, because of the relatively wide bezel and the series of concentric layers on the dial.
On the other hand, this « concentric » effect slightly diminishes the «cross-eyed» look of the chrono’s secondary dials.

A few years ago, Roger Dubuis presented a « King Square » featuring a magnificent orange tinted dial.
This idea did not sink into oblivion as one finds the same kind of color on the «La Monegasque Club» central inset.
This amber colored inset makes the dial lively, reinforces the overall luxurious feel and brings even more originality to this SL.



With regards to the movement, it is a manufacture’s caliber, a Micro-rotor chronograph that I could unfortunately not test nor shoot, the watch being inapproachable.

The design of the RD78 is a little more modern than that of the RD680 described earlier; a hollowed bridge covers the overall caliber, and the micro-rotor’s counterweight is decorated like a stylized globe, logically, the overall design is a little more «Jet-Set» and offbeat, resonating with the proclaimed storytelling.

Technically, the caliber is 13 ¼ lines by 5.80mm (it is 2mm thinner than a 7750, thanks to the micro-rotor).
It is set at 28800v/h for a 42-hour power reserve, and features 36 jewels. The jumping minutes counter at 3 o’clock features a 45-minute railway.



Everything in the design of this watch evokes a cozy and welcoming atmosphere, reminiscent of the private game clubs, the wristband matches the sofas of the nearby smoking-room and the dial’s amber inset would perfectly suit your glass of Cognac XO…

This line is a return to the roots for RD, but a return that does not disavow the previous period.
Because if the collection is fundamentally reasonable, it retains a playful and trendy spirit that enables it to throw a wide net, by attracting collectors from all backgrounds. Overall, it is a successful synthesis.

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excellent review Malik!...I look forward to your contributions on 3T...ThumbsUp02.gif

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Great watches and beautiful micro-rotor movement. Maybe some titanium gray screws would have been a great contrast on the movement as RD didn't want to go for the usual blue ones...
I was surprised by the "100% swiss made" inscription on the rotor: Maybe a bit low targeted there...Like they was speaking of some cheese or any industrial food product...
Something like " All In-house production" or even better "Toutes pièces Suisses"(All Swiss pieces) for example, would have been enough if they wanted to precise it, when it's already stipulating "Manufacture Roger Dubuis" down the rotor.
A big Geneva seal on the rotor would have done the trick: It's enough proof also instead of long inscriptions...At list for the ones who know what it means.
Thanks Malik for the cool pictures and descriptions
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Awesome thanks for sharing!!!

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Beautiful! I am a big fan of the first 3 hander and the strap on the last. Winners.

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Oasgasparexcellent review Malik!...I look forward to your contributions on 3T...

Thanks, with great pleasure.


Hammerfjord wrote:
Great watches and beautiful micro-rotor movement. Maybe some titanium gray screws would have been a great contrast on the movement as RD didn't want to go for the usual blue ones...
I was surprised by the "100% swiss made" inscription on the rotor: Maybe a bit low targeted there...Like they was speaking of some cheese or any industrial food product...
Something like " All In-house production" or even better "Toutes pièces Suisses"(All Swiss pieces) for example, would have been enough if they wanted to precise it, when it's already stipulating "Manufacture Roger Dubuis" down the rotor.
A big Geneva seal on the rotor would have done the trick: It's enough proof also instead of long inscriptions...At list for the ones who know what it means.
Thanks Malik for the cool pictures and descriptions
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I'am agree with your point on this inscription, is not the most classy way to explain it.

In fact I don't like this micro-rotor (it looks better on the Monégasque Club, with a king of "earth globe" engraved in gold):

http://rogerdubuis.com/complications/chronograph/movements/rd78

But for the "basical" Monégasque Chronographe (in pics in my report), an engraved gold rotor, as Patek or Lange should be better.

For the inscription, the "100% swiss made", is to explain in undirect but simple way, that the actual label "swiss made" represent 50% of the cost of the watch... crusty.gif
That mean, concretly, if your movemement, is assembly in China, and encased in Swiss, you can maybe can have the swiss made, due to the high cost of the work in swiss.

So as Roger Dubuis, made 90% all parts in their own manufactures (they buy thing like saphir glasses, spiral or straps), they promote the real swiss made.

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pifpaf wrote:
Oasgasparexcellent review Malik!...I look forward to your contributions on 3T...

Thanks, with great pleasure.


Hammerfjord wrote:
Great watches and beautiful micro-rotor movement. Maybe some titanium gray screws would have been a great contrast on the movement as RD didn't want to go for the usual blue ones...
I was surprised by the "100% swiss made" inscription on the rotor: Maybe a bit low targeted there...Like they was speaking of some cheese or any industrial food product...
Something like " All In-house production" or even better "Toutes pièces Suisses"(All Swiss pieces) for example, would have been enough if they wanted to precise it, when it's already stipulating "Manufacture Roger Dubuis" down the rotor.
A big Geneva seal on the rotor would have done the trick: It's enough proof also instead of long inscriptions...At list for the ones who know what it means.
Thanks Malik for the cool pictures and descriptions
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I'am agree with your point on this inscription, is not the most classy way to explain it.

In fact I don't like this micro-rotor (it looks better on the Monégasque Club, with a king of "earth globe" engraved in gold):

http://rogerdubuis.com/complications/chronograph/movements/rd78

But for the "basical" Monégasque Chronographe (in pics in my report), an engraved gold rotor, as Patek or Lange should be better.

For the inscription, the "100% swiss made", is to explain in undirect but simple way, that the actual label "swiss made" represent 50% of the cost of the watch... crusty.gif
That mean, concretly, if your movemement, is assembly in China, and encased in Swiss, you can maybe can have the swiss made, due to the high cost of the work in swiss.

So as Roger Dubuis, made 90% all parts in their own manufactures (they buy thing like saphir glasses, spiral or straps), they promote the real swiss made.

Yes Malik, I am aware of this 51% law obtained from authorities to restart and inflate the Swiss watch industry...Many crystals and other parts used by Swiss brands are coming from Asia.
What I was meaning is that stipulating "manufacture" on the movement already indicate that it is in fact conceived, machined and mounted in the same place, who belong to the brand...
Engravings on the movements are only certifying the movement, not the case or other watch parts: So this "100% Swiss-made" don't give any guarantee for other parts(other than the movement) in my eyes.
Of course, a movement could be stamped as "manufacture movement" and still have very small parts builded in another place or another land: It's often the case for the springs.
RogerD tried to signalize that they use only Swiss parts: Great move I say! But maybe not with the "100% Swiss made" because it just sound a bit wrong right there....That's why I came with the "Toutes pièces Suisses" (All Swiss parts) who would be a better appellation in my opinion...
By the way, I give you right about the Monégasque Club: This version with the "tourbillon cage" over the micro rotor is definitely more subtile.

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What wowzer.gifGORGEOUSwowzer.gif timepieces. I really like that first one, the three hander, but they're all spectacular. I also don't find the '%100 Swiss Made' on the rotor distracting or out of place.

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I believe this would be the 1st production not only under the leadership of George Kern,but also under the new partnership with the Richemont Group.I am glad to see that the brand has kept to it's roots,especially in the movement area.
...Roger Dubuis Watch was one of the Swiss brands who has suffered in sales since 2010(as much as 25%) but this may have been largely in part due to the partnering and agreement with Richemont,who was more interested in the in-house movement facility at Roger Dubuis than the brand itself,in order to develop movements within the Richemont Group of watch brands imho.
...Roger Dubuis has always made movements that were 100% Swiss,as well as their entire watches,made in their own state of the art facility. I would like to see more Swiss brands getting back to the 100% Swiss monaker!
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I would like to see more Swiss brands getting back to the 100% Swiss...

Damn right Oscar... This 51% law is getting wild...
I wonder how many % the Swiss movement alone, represent there
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Great brand with nice pieces but the tourby is not for me.

I'm with you on your views, Will
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