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Graham wrote: Thanks, Nick!
Yes, The canyon is a definite. The last time I saw this area was from a smal aircraft during an exciting flight through the canyon. That was 20 years ago! Sedona and Flagstaff are noted too.
BTW, I think the word geek describes us collectively very well indeed:
The word geek is a slang term, noting individuals as "a peculiar or otherwise odd person, especially one who is perceived to be overly obsessed with one or more things including those of intellectuality, electronics, etc."[1] Formerly, the term referred to a carnival performer often billed as a wild man whose act usually includes biting the head off a live chicken, bat, snake or bugs. The 1976 edition of the American Heritage Dictionary included only the definition regarding geek shows.
I know for a fact William the Viking does that to chickens all the time!........ 
The "land of oz" where all things Invicta and Jim Skelton are worshipped is called WatchGeeks and the members refer to themselves as "geeks" instead of WIS....don't really want to be associated with that....it's terrible that they can drag a simple word like geek through the mud 
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