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sopiau 3T WIS
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Hi I got this watch recently for USD$70. Any comments and how do you adjust the date? Attachment: Poljot.JPG (Downloaded 110 times) |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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It's a older model. To set the dae all you should have to do it pull the crown out to the first stop 2ed stop to set time. If no I have no clue. Welcome to 3T. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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to set the date you need to move the hands clockwise until the date changes...this tells you it is in the pm mode....from the midnite position you will then turn the minute hand to the right past the 3 and then back past the 12 to about the 8 marker and then back over the 12....this will adjust the date. |
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pacifichrono 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: to set the date you need to move the hands clockwise until the date changes...this tells you it is in the pm mode....from the midnite position you will then turn the minute hand to the right past the 3 and then back past the 12 to about the 8 marker and then back over the 12....this will adjust the date. That's the Russian method for "quick-set." :D |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Shoot I knew that. :cool: But was to early to ask my gray matter to work for me. LOL :D |
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Upside 3T WIS
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It's nice that the newer models you only have to go past 11 and back past 12 to change the date. Saves all sorts of time (punny eh?) |
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zippofan 3T WIS
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Nice Poljot DeLuxe, congrats! I had a hand winding version but I sold it...a stupid mistake on my part! Cheers, Griff |
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Simon_Leung 3T WIS
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My personal opinion of Poljot watches is the fact, that this company produces some of the robust movements for under the $300 price range. The all time favourite of mine is the Caliber 3133 which is based on the Valjoux 7734 with a diameter of 31 mm and height of 7.35 mm with 23 jewels hand-wound 43-hour power reserve when the chronograph function is not in use. Unfortunately, I'm not too familiar with Russian watches however as far as I can tell some of their chronograph movements are Swiss based. Historical Background: Glashutte, Germany's watch production facilities were one of the spoils of the Second World War that accompanied the Soviet Union's victories in 1945. During the postwar years,the Soviets shopped for precision machinery and tools in Switzerland which to manufacture calibers. Among such imports was the Poljot Caliber 3133, built between 1969 and 1978. The basis for this movement was the Valjoux 7734, a Swiss caliber that was initially made in Le Bioux,Switzerland. The Russians modified this Swiss ebauche by changing the the shape of its balance wheel and bearings. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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once again Simon close but no cigar :D...the 3133 was the Russians variation of the Val.7734 but did not use that ebauche...their chronos more resemble ie: the Seagull st-19 movements of Japan...also it was around the 1920's the Russian Govt' bought the Dueber-Hampden watch Co. of Canton,Ohio near where I live and once owned by a close friend of mines grandfather and moved the factory in 28 or so freight cars along with many of their watchmakers to train the Russians in watchmaking......it was called the "First Russian Watch Co."later becoming Poljot hand6.gif |
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scottran 3T WIS
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Nice watch. I have a few watches with Poljot movements in them and havent had any trouble. I like all the russian watches I own. But for now I am in a self imposed boycott of russian watches/products due to recent cirumstances. Just mho. |
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pacifichrono 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: once again Simon close but no cigar :D...the 3133 was the Russians variation of the Val.7734 but did not use that ebauche...their chronos more resemble ie: the Seagull st-19 movements of Japan... I dunno...my understanding is that the Poljot 3133 is a direct descendant of the Valjoux 7734, the tooling for which Poljot bought from Valjoux in the mid-1970s or so. I thought the Chinese Seagull ST19 was made from the Swiss tooling of the Venus 175, or at least 'cloned' from the Venus, which seems to have geometry a bit different from the Valjoux/Poljot. Here are the "players:" Valjoux 7734: ![]() Poljot 3133: ![]() Seagull ST19: ![]() Venus 175: ![]() And another ST19 (from my 1963 Chinese Air Force Reissue): ![]() I'm far from an expert on the matter, but the history I picked up as a Poljot dealer never mentioned the Seagull or Venus. BTW, my ST19 runs really sweet! |
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cfoster 3T WIS
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I could be wrong but, somewhere along the way, I understood that Poljot had a license to manufacture ETA movements and I believe the parts came from ETA as well. Is there any truth to that myth? Clyde |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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cfoster wrote: I could be wrong but, somewhere along the way, I understood that Poljot had a license to manufacture ETA movements and I believe the parts came from ETA as well. Is there any truth to that myth? As far as I know Eta never had them make movements. Now they made movements based on the Eta movements and some of the newer watches use Eta movements but that is about as far as it goes I'm preaty sure. ;) |
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Simon_Leung 3T WIS
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pacifichrono wrote: oagaspar wrote:once again Simon close but no cigar :D...the 3133 was the Russians variation of the Val.7734 but did not use that ebauche...their chronos more resemble the Seagull st-19 movements of Japan... Tom, The Chinese Made Seagull ST-19 is a direct descendant of the Venus 175. After doing further research with Watch Time Magazine RE: Contemporary Chronographs 2003. It does state that the Poljot 3133 is made from the Valjoux 7734. Thanks Tom for your photos. |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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A little history and info on this I found googling. http://www.christophlorenz.de/watch/movements/p/poljot/poljot_3133.php?l=en |
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SBD 3T WIS
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Fascinating stuff, fellas. hand6.gif I have one Poljot with a caliber 3133 in it. It's my only mechanical chrono, and the movement is probably my favorite thing about it...once you get used to the "not quite at quick"-set date. ;););) ![]() Last edited on Sat Oct 25th, 2008 09:27 pm by SBD |
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