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ok so here's the predicament....i live in seoul. and have been browsing the local department store sites and came across a Grovana 300m diver....did more research on it and found that state side they go for about 350-500 smackers...however, over here i found them for between 300,000-330,000 Korean Won.  Now with the state of the current economies at present, on both sides of the ocean, 300,000 won translates to about 207 US dollars.....seems ridiculous?  check it out:

http://www.lotte.com/lotte/sitemap/goods/LCCategoryGoods.jsp?curGoodsNo=7986158&curDispNo=044005002001070&orgDispNo=044005002001070&curDepth=

now my problem is that i am going to get this watch, seems too good to pass up, but the girlfriend just doesn't get the whole watch thing....therefore she would definitely punch me in the face if she were to read this, or know that i bought another one.  In any case i need a good excuse for why i have this watch, after i get it.  the best thing i can think of is,"uuuuh yeah baby my parents got it for me for christmas, they sent it from america....".....that's it, that's the best i can come up with, it's pathetic i know.....I am generally a person who always follows the golden rule, but this time i think the golden rule can kiss my %#@....i feel like some kind of crack addict or something lol.....

so, pass this watch up??? or go ahead and tell one itty bitty white lie, and end up feeling like a schmuck for a couple months??? 

your opinions please....keep in mind will most likely marry this girl and don't want too big of a white lie......

thank you...

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I'm probably a bit older than you, but a few things, 1st dont start with the lies...next....will the expenditure cripple or cause distress in your budget??? Did you make any promises? did you agree not to buy any watches? are you both working towards a common goal and this would not allow you to keep your end of the bargain?

If your cool with most of the above then lay out the deal like you did to us, she may see the value. Stress that this is your little hobby and it could be worse.

Then if all else fails....remember...its easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permissionsnoopy1.gif

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no money issues, no promises, just trying to avoid....if you know what i mean

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mario wrote: no money issues, no promises, just trying to avoid....if you know what i mean


Then better start now and get "her leg" out of your  pant leg, or your in for a long ride:D

Oops.................did I say that:Psubtlelaugh.gif

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Took the words out of my mouth Gumba! subtlelaugh.gif......when one of my lady friends see me wearing a new watch which is quite often they say "Ooooooooh Oscar what a beautiful watch....what did you buy me" LMAO! :D

Tony Duronio wrote:
mario wrote: no money issues, no promises, just trying to avoid....if you know what i mean


Then better start now and get "her leg" out of your  pant leg, or your in for a long ride:D

Oops.................did I say that:Psubtlelaugh.gif

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Good advice from these outstanding gentlemen...:D

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Tony Duronio wrote:

If your cool with most of the above then lay out the deal like you did to us, she may see the value. Stress that this is your little hobby and it could be worse.



Hi Mario! :)

You've got a frustrating dilemma there. I agree with SOME of what Tony is saying :P ! 

I rarely do this but I'm going to quote Shakespeare here -

"O what a tangled web we weave when we first practice to deceive."

I know people who start out with white lies and as time goes on they get bigger, more complicated and so confusing that they are finally found out. It always seems to get back to the people being deceived and ends up in hurt. Your situation may be different. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with whatever you decide. :)




 


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aloy wrote: Tony Duronio wrote:

If your cool with most of the above then lay out the deal like you did to us, she may see the value. Stress that this is your little hobby and it could be worse.



Hi Mario! :)

You've got a frustrating dilemma there. I agree with SOME of what Tony is saying :P ! 

I rarely do this but I'm going to quote Shakespeare here -

"O what a tangled web we weave when we first practice to deceive."

I know people who start out with white lies and as time goes on they get bigger, more complicated and so confusing that they are finally found out. It always seems to get back to the people being deceived and ends up in hurt. Your situation may be different. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with whatever you decide. :)




 



SOME????????????????:P:D:D:D

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Tony Duronio wrote:

Then if all else fails....remember...its easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permissionsnoopy1.gif



Yes sorry Tony, I don't agree with this part at all. To me it reads that if she's not agreeable, go ahead and buy the watch anyway, and when she finds out and has been hurt and deceived, an apology will restore the trust and heal the hurt - but that's just my interpretation ... :)

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I vote for honesty without volunteered disclosure.  That is, go buy it, and IF she asks you about it, just say "I got a really good deal, couldn't pass it up"

 

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aloy wrote: Tony Duronio wrote:

Then if all else fails....remember...its easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permissionsnoopy1.gif



Yes sorry Tony, I don't agree with this part at all. To me it reads that if she's not agreeable, go ahead and buy the watch anyway, and when she finds out and has been hurt and deceived, an apology will restore the trust and heal the hurt - but that's just my interpretation ... :)

Note the Snoopy icon at the end:D

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Now for the minority report...  girlfriends come and go - your relationship with a good watch can last a LOT longer... subtlelaugh.gif

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The Grovana looks like a nice watch minding the translations on the website.

I say difuse the issue by buying her one at the same time in a more femmine look, one for me and one for you.

 

Aloy has some nice watches in the members area, how about a Gervil for her then you get the Grovana.

I give my wifey a Datejust and then I do not fill bad giving myself a Yachtie......

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Tony Duronio wrote: aloy wrote: Tony Duronio wrote:

Then if all else fails....remember...its easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permissionsnoopy1.gif



Yes sorry Tony, I don't agree with this part at all. To me it reads that if she's not agreeable, go ahead and buy the watch anyway, and when she finds out and has been hurt and deceived, an apology will restore the trust and heal the hurt - but that's just my interpretation ... :)

Note the Snoopy icon at the end:D

Sorry for the wait - had to tend to my son home sick from school. Anyway I did see Snoopy and took him into consideration. Did I misinterpret? :)

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Darkman wrote: I vote for honesty without volunteered disclosure.  That is, go buy it, and IF she asks you about it, just say "I got a really good deal, couldn't pass it up"

 

;)

Excellent solution! You get your watch and you're being upfront! :D

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srh_pres wrote: Now for the minority report...  girlfriends come and go - your relationship with a good watch can last a LOT longer... subtlelaugh.gif


Morning!

With all due respect, please remember and I quote - keep in mind will most likely marry this girl - and although I agree with you about long lasting relationships with watches, my observation has been that they are frequently sold and traded imho. :D You can always buy a watch, but in the illustrious words of John Lennon ... "Can't Buy Me Love" ;) :D

 

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aloy wrote: srh_pres wrote: Now for the minority report...  girlfriends come and go - your relationship with a good watch can last a LOT longer... subtlelaugh.gif


Morning!

With all due respect, please remember and I quote - keep in mind will most likely marry this girl - and although I agree with you about long lasting relationships with watches, my observation has been that they are frequently sold and traded imho. :D You can always buy a watch, but in the illustrious words of John Lennon ... "Can't Buy Me Love" ;) :D

 

Alina, is the subconscious I never had......subtlelaugh.gif

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SHADY wrote:

I say difuse the issue by buying her one at the same time in a more femmine look, one for me and one for you.



Excellent idea! Have one on hand you can return just in case! ;) 

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My two cents...if your girlfriend is dictating your spending habits, imagine the power she will have when she's your wife!  I say take a stand - - it's your money, not hers...not yet anyway!  If you wimp out now it just sets the stage for a lifetime of the same.  IMHO.

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truer words were never spoken... ThumbsUp02.gif

pacifichrono wrote:
My two cents...if your girlfriend is dictating your spending habits, imagine the power she will have when she's your wife!  I say take a stand - - it's your money, not hers...not yet anyway!  If you wimp out now it just sets the stage for a lifetime of the same.  IMHO.

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All right! We've been waiting for this thread haven't we folks;)

 

2 things always make sense in my house. One: the uniqueness of the timepiece in question and how it differs from others and adds to my collection. Two: Carpe Diem!  I've missed out on watches in the past and expressed much dismay about not seizing the opportunity when they came up (add lots of moping and tears).  Now granted I do make a mental concious effort to cool the buying for a couple of months but all the same...don't pass up an opportunity if it'll make  you miserable later (sell that part, girls hate a miserable guy around).  It's also a good idea to sell your girl on your hobby by indirectly getting her into it as well.  The suggestion to buy her one too is a GREAT idea that can blossom into a secondary hobby.   Christmas is coming after all and Santa brings things for all good girls and boyssubtlelaugh.gif

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Upside wrote: All right! We've been waiting for this thread haven't we folks;)

 

2 things always make sense in my house. One: the uniqueness of the timepiece in question and how it differs from others and adds to my collection. Two: Carpe Diem!  I've missed out on watches in the past and expressed much dismay about not seizing the opportunity when they came up (add lots of moping and tears).  Now granted I do make a mental concious effort to cool the buying for a couple of months but all the same...don't pass up an opportunity if it'll make  you miserable later (sell that part, girls hate a miserable guy around).  It's also a good idea to sell your girl on your hobby by indirectly getting her into it as well.  The suggestion to buy her one too is a GREAT idea that can blossom into a secondary hobby.   Christmas is coming after all and Santa brings things for all good girls and boyssubtlelaugh.gif

Ladies love watches....anything with PINK!!!

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SHADY wrote: Upside wrote: All right! We've been waiting for this thread haven't we folks;)

 

2 things always make sense in my house. One: the uniqueness of the timepiece in question and how it differs from others and adds to my collection. Two: Carpe Diem!  I've missed out on watches in the past and expressed much dismay about not seizing the opportunity when they came up (add lots of moping and tears).  Now granted I do make a mental concious effort to cool the buying for a couple of months but all the same...don't pass up an opportunity if it'll make  you miserable later (sell that part, girls hate a miserable guy around).  It's also a good idea to sell your girl on your hobby by indirectly getting her into it as well.  The suggestion to buy her one too is a GREAT idea that can blossom into a secondary hobby.   Christmas is coming after all and Santa brings things for all good girls and boyssubtlelaugh.gif

Ladies love watches....anything with PINK!!!


 

Oh YES!  Sell the jewelery angle!  It's jewelery with function!

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Upside wrote: SHADY wrote: Upside wrote: All right! We've been waiting for this thread haven't we folks;)

 

2 things always make sense in my house. One: the uniqueness of the timepiece in question and how it differs from others and adds to my collection. Two: Carpe Diem!  I've missed out on watches in the past and expressed much dismay about not seizing the opportunity when they came up (add lots of moping and tears).  Now granted I do make a mental concious effort to cool the buying for a couple of months but all the same...don't pass up an opportunity if it'll make  you miserable later (sell that part, girls hate a miserable guy around).  It's also a good idea to sell your girl on your hobby by indirectly getting her into it as well.  The suggestion to buy her one too is a GREAT idea that can blossom into a secondary hobby.   Christmas is coming after all and Santa brings things for all good girls and boyssubtlelaugh.gif

Ladies love watches....anything with PINK!!!


 

Oh YES!  Sell the jewelery angle!  It's jewelery with function!


As long as you're selling the jewelry angle, don't forget that diamonds are a girl's best friend! hearteyes.gif ;) There are plenty of affordable diamond watches out there, especially the designer brands - you'd be surprised! :) She would be putty in your hands!! ;)

 

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If the woman can't take the man for how he is, if he has to pussyfoot around, then something's wrong.

You shouldn't have to worry about buying a watch, fgs!  hmmmpft!

You are who and what you are and she should luv you as that.

End of my diatribe.  happy1.gif

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tny795 wrote: If the woman can't take the man for how he is, if he has to pussyfoot around, then something's wrong.

You shouldn't have to worry about buying a watch, fgs!  hmmmpft!

You are who and what you are and she should luv you as that.

End of my diatribe.  happy1.gif

Well lookie, lookie! toon1.gif How gorgeous are you?? I LOOOVE your new avatar Toni! Thanks so much for posting your pic and joining the club hun! YOU ROCK!!!! :cool: ;) :D

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aloy wrote: tny795 wrote: If the woman can't take the man for how he is, if he has to pussyfoot around, then something's wrong.

You shouldn't have to worry about buying a watch, fgs!  hmmmpft!

You are who and what you are and she should luv you as that.

End of my diatribe.  happy1.gif

Well lookie, lookie! toon1.gif How gorgeous are you?? I LOOOVE your new avatar Toni! Thanks so much for posting your pic and joining the club hun! YOU ROCK!!!! :cool: ;) :D

snoopy1.gif


 

Jeez...our forum is filling up with super models! ThumbsUp02.gif

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wow.....all excelltent advice btw.....probably will listen and end up getting two watches.....in this case something that looks similar, but not too masculine...probably will just try to find a nice ladies diver....anyone have any good suggestions about any particular model?

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I don't know much about divers but maybe :? ...  

http://jewelry.hsn.com/bulova-ladies-marine-star-pink-bezel-stainless-steel-bracelet-watch_p-4413375_xp.aspx

MSRP $350        

 
       ?

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toon1.gif

This could be you

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=211647

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hucky wrote: toon1.gif

This could be you

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=211647


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Oh Hucky, you crack me up!!!! subtlelaugh.gif

Here's another version for less $ ...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001CSBWY2/sr=1-69/qid=1228874575/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1228874575&sr=1-69&seller=

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yeah cool thank you, that white one is alright....i'll keep searching around for something of that look...

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ahhhh....like a breath of fresh air!....a woman after my own heart....you tell em' TC hearteyes.gif

tny795 wrote:
If the woman can't take the man for how he is, if he has to pussyfoot around, then something's wrong.

You shouldn't have to worry about buying a watch, fgs!  hmmmpft!

You are who and what you are and she should luv you as that.

End of my diatribe.  happy1.gif

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I say figure out what her "bad habit" is - and capitalise! What - like she doesn't buy shoes? In every colour of the rainbow? mistake.gif. My ex-wife had a penchant for expensive wine. One bottle = one watch. It is easy!! It would probably be a nice idea to help her appreciate the nuances of watches by getting her one similar, and then you could have a his and hers collection going on. Nothing better than a shared hobby IMHO. And even if you decide to get two of the same model - it is amazing how different watches look on straps more appropriate to members of the better sex. Your Blancpain Fifty Fathoms re-issue on black leather, hers on the white - see what I mean? :D

On a more serious note - it is a dilemma we all see from time to time. No lies, mate, they just catch up with you and make mountains of molehills.

Be up front, deal with the consequences, but at least set the record straight. You'll run out of parents to credit as you acquire the next twenty or so... face4.gif

Cheers and good luck! IanM

 

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on a mission once again ;) and grasping at straws, something that looks more like yours but a bit more elegant - from Wayne's Watch World aka, the roachman (one of our favs) ...

http://www.roachman.com/ladies/seiko/SYMH09.html

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srh_pres wrote: Now for the minority report...  girlfriends come and go - your relationship with a good watch can last a LOT longer... subtlelaugh.gif

Exactly what I was going to say...she is a girlfriend, not a wife.  If you can afford the watch without sacrificing anything else, then that is your right and your privilege.  With the controlling image you portray of this girlfriend...perhaps it is time you went looking for a new one to go along with your new Grovano!

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Thanks, OG.  But, don't get me going....:D  Makes my blood boil, and that's putting it mildly.  

oagaspar wrote:
ahhhh....like a breath of fresh air!....a woman after my own heart....you tell em' TC hearteyes.gif

tny795 wrote:
If the woman can't take the man for how he is, if he has to pussyfoot around, then something's wrong.

You shouldn't have to worry about buying a watch, fgs!  hmmmpft!

You are who and what you are and she should luv you as that.

End of my diatribe.  happy1.gif


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Well Mario, when a man's going to buy a watch, ya just gotta do it.  You know it's one of those "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do." kind of things.

I once wanted to buy a new pistol that I needed like another hole in the head.  I knew she who cooks would blow her top if I asked her opinion, so I just went and bought the gun.  Well, when she found out, she blew her top, as expected, and asked why I didn't talk to her first.  I told her I knew she'd say no and since I was going to buy the gun anyway I thought it would be better if was only be mad because I bought another gun...not that I defied her AND bought another gun.

I think the saying "It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission" might come into play here too.

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excellent LOL hahahahaha

then it's on like donkey kong

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KenC wroteExactly what I was going to say...she is a girlfriend, not a wife.  If you can afford the watch without sacrificing anything else, then that is your right and your privilege.  With the controlling image you portray of this girlfriend...perhaps it is time you went looking for a new one to go along with your new Grovano!
Couldn't agree more.  I'm married and haven't bought a watch in a while because I had other financial priorities.  Things have turned slightly and it's about time for another purchase.  Yes, my wife will roll her eyes and give me that "I can't believe I married such a geek" look.  Much of this will be because she doesn't get the whole watch thing.  She can't understand my purchasing a new watch when I've got half a dozen that cover the major styles and are all perfectly fine.  She might even pick a fight but guess what....  I'm still going to buy one and will offer no apology for it.  I love and respect my wife tremendously.  I don't get on her about the 30 or so purses laying around the house or the sweater that was too good of a deal to pass.  I do not expect that level of scrutiny over something like this.  If I do get, I'll stand my ground.  We'll talk it out.  And she will get over it.
It helps when I remind her that I'm the same guy she fell in love with 15 years ago....  only with more watches and without the big mullett.

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steve6387 wrote: KenC wroteExactly what I was going to say...she is a girlfriend, not a wife.  If you can afford the watch without sacrificing anything else, then that is your right and your privilege.  With the controlling image you portray of this girlfriend...perhaps it is time you went looking for a new one to go along with your new Grovano!
Couldn't agree more.  I'm married and haven't bought a watch in a while because I had other financial priorities.  Things have turned slightly and it's about time for another purchase.  Yes, my wife will roll her eyes and give me that "I can't believe I married such a geek" look.  Much of this will be because she doesn't get the whole watch thing.  She can't understand my purchasing a new watch when I've got half a dozen that cover the major styles and are all perfectly fine.  She might even pick a fight but guess what....  I'm still going to buy one and will offer no apology for it.  I love and respect my wife tremendously.  I don't get on her about the 30 or so purses laying around the house or the sweater that was too good of a deal to pass.  I do not expect that level of scrutiny over something like this.  If I do get, I'll stand my ground.  We'll talk it out.  And she will get over it.
It helps when I remind her that I'm the same guy she fell in love with 15 years ago....  only with more watches and without the big mullett.

 

 

yourock.gifShe married you despite the mullet!  Oh she's a keeper!!

lol Mullet, that's awesomesubtlelaugh.gif

 

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I have to slip my 2 cents in here. I'm married, so there's a little difference with the original poster situation and mine. I don't own a  ton of watches like some folks here, and I've only recently started buying some, but I have a long time interest in swiss watches since my father came home beaming from a business trip in Zurich in 1968 sporting a plain jane ultra thin Bucherer. Now, I do have to explain or sell my wife a little on this watch buying past time. The most effective way and how I sold her on the Omega I recently purchased was to simply say..." honey, 10 years from now, if you wore it every day and then ran the Seamaster over with a truck.... you'ld still get $1000.00 dollars for it, it's money in the bank":cool:....it worked and dare I say with very little resistance.;) 

Bull Winkle
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Joined: Mon Nov 17th, 2008
Location: SanFernando Valley, California USA
Posts: 64
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I have several hobbies. Ahh hell lets just call them for what they are, obsessions :)
I have an outstanding knife collection that gets added too several times a year.
Do I have enough things to cut with you bet, but I still buy, as I get so much pleasure out of having and adding too, my collection. I have an outstanding LED flashlight collection. One in every car, in everyroom, several in my camp gear, and batteries/chargers to go with them. I add to this collection several times each year. I have a nice fountain pen collection, 6 really excellent, classic pieces, and as time goes on I also add to this as well. And finally watches. I have a nice collection and right now I have 10 pieces. More than enough for the purpose of telling time, and I add to this collection as well. Life is meant to be enjoyed, I enjoy these things. If I didn't I would place my interest in something else. More to the point everybody who knows me always ask what pen am I using today, what time is it (just to see what watch I'm wearing, and they will say hay look at how small that flashlight is and how bright it is. Or ask me to cut sometime just to check out my latest knife. These are things that matter to me. I am known to my loved ones for having usually on my person: 1 or 2 nice fountain pens, 1 Led flashligh, 1 knife, and an ever changing watch, and for me it's the point of having quality stuff at my finger tips, or on my wrist. My GF found these things out early on, and she became my GF for many reasons, but included in these was a knowledge that these hobbies were important to me. She doesnt share most of these but has enjoyed the benefits of her boyfriend having these hobbies.
She has 3 nice flashlights that I got for her(car, purse, bedroom). She has a nice fountain Pen in her purse, A nice keychain pen knife, and yes I got her a beautiful girly watch that she wears all the time. Be up front, be who you are,


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