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armandsv 3T WIS
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Is there any quartz watch that moves like a auto? I hate the big tic, tic, tic and want a quartz that moves in the little tics the same way automatic watches do. are there any? |
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JKang 3T WIS 
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Seiko Spring Drive? |
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stormin13 3T WIS 
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Try the Tag Heuer, Aquaracer Calibre S Chronograph it advertised to have quartz accuracy with a mechanical movement. Here is the URL http://www.tagheuer.com I hope this helps, cheers. Last edited on Thu Jul 30th, 2009 05:15 am by stormin13 |
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Ron Jr 3T WIS 
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If there was you would have to change the batteries often. That is why quartz moves in one second clicks instead of a sweep. |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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the Accutron 214/218 tuning fork watches have a fairly smooth seconds sweep as does the Omega 300hz and Rolex Oysterquartz....Bulova accuquartz as well and last but not least the Citizen Mega Quartz,,,the most accurate watch known to man....all of these have smooth seconds....ETA was working on a smooth seconds quartz movement a couple years ago that had an additional gear adding 60 teeth which gave the appearance of a auto watch but I haven't heard anytrhing new recently if it was released....my question is WHY!!! face4.gif http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=5303&forum_id=1&highlight=new+quartz+movement |
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armandsv 3T WIS
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Why is a good question. The answer, because I work with a magnet that has a field of 800 MHz or 18.8 Tesla (181,000 G). It is shielded but will stop a quartz watch if you are next to it and do god knows what to a automatic. About 10ft away it is 5gauss but I work next to it, and that could mess things up |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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most eta based watches will provide enough gauss protection to sustain 5 gauss and much higher...some are much greater and if the watch is iron clad/anti-magnetized the gaussian level is much higher 800+ ...a Rolex achieves 800 gauss without any shielding hand6.gif |
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mcwright Admin 
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For what its worth, I own a Seiko wall clock with smooth sweep hand. Uses a AA battery and (I assume) a quartz movement. I also have a Seiko World Timer desktop clock with a smooth sweep hand. Both are about 15 to 20 years old. |
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KenC Admin 
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JKang wrote: Seiko Spring Drive? There is a lot of confusion about the Seiko Spring Drive...It is NOT a quartz movement. It is a completely mechanical movement that has a micro-chip in it to regulate (on a "real time" basis) the release of the mainspring to produce "quartz-like" accuracy. It is much like the engine of a car that uses micro-chips/computers to regulate functions of the engine like timing, fuel consumption, cylinder usage, etc. The car is still powered by an engine and not by the computer. |
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mcwright Admin
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KenC wrote: JKang wrote:Seiko Spring Drive? Good explanation. I would guess the Seiko Kinetic movement is quartz with a mechanical charge mechanism for the battery. |
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DM71 3T WIS 
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JKang wrote: Seiko Spring Drive? JKang, the Seiko Springdrive is a mechanical automatic movement. It doesn't have a battery (even if it uses electronic components). They replaced the mechanical escapement by a very complex system that i will not explain here because far too complex for me. It's the most precise mechanical movement in existance today at +- 15 sec a month! This was really a 'Quiet Revolution' like they say at Seiko. This is part of the reason why these watches retails in the $4000-$7000 range :shock:. The Seiko SpringDrive Marine Master is really a masterpiece IMOH. (And yes, I'm a Seiko fanhearteyes.gif) More details here: http://www.timezone.com/library/rdnotebook/200509073623 Oups! I see i was late on this one!  Last edited on Thu Jul 30th, 2009 02:51 pm by DM71 |
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armandsv 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: most eta based watches will provide enough gauss protection to sustain 5 gauss and much higher...some are much greater and if the watch is iron clad/anti-magnetized the gaussian level is much higher 800+ ...a Rolex achieves 800 gauss without any shielding hand6.gif so lets say I go for it and get a auto chrono. How do I know if it becomes magnetized ? how can i fix the damage if it does happen? |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Indeed the Seiko Spring Drive is very different. While a good automatic watch may seem to make a clean sweep when the second hand moves around the dial, look at it with a good magnifying glass and you'll notice there are very minute and almost undiscernable stops. The Spring Drive is a true clean sweep and one won't even notice the minute movements of its second hand.:) |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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armandsv wrote: oagaspar wrote:most eta based watches will provide enough gauss protection to sustain 5 gauss and much higher...some are much greater and if the watch is iron clad/anti-magnetized the gaussian level is much higher 800+ ...a Rolex achieves 800 gauss without any shielding hand6.gif your best bet is to buy a higher end chrono with a iron clad case then you wouldn't have to worry imo.... demagnetizing a watch can be done at home but I will keep that to myself so no one tries it and screws their watch up! :D...but watch demagnetizers can be bought for relatively cheap .... you know your watch has been magentized when you are in an environment say such as your work place,light plants,MRI etc... and your watch starts to run eratic....slow/fast etc. ...if you think your watch has been magnetized which in a normal environment is highly improbable because most all modern watch movements since the 50's use components that are not prone to being magnetized(see link)but since you say you work in a highly magnetized work space your probabilty will be obviously higher ....if this happens and you notice a difference in the operation of your watches ability to tell time just take it to a jeweler...one preferably with a watchmaker onboard and he/she can demagnetize it while you wait with a demagentizer...they simply pass the demagnetizer over a target zone a couple of times and that is it. Your best bet is to just buy a good watch and do your research 1st as most watch companies can provide the gauss ratings of their watches...and I'm not talking Invicta/Slopnbc OK?....like I said earlier Rolex,Ball,Sinn,Kazimon,Benarus 1KM and hoards of other fine brands have watches that more than qualify for your work place.hand6.gif but imho just remove your watch when you are in close proximity to whatever you are talking about and your worries will never start! :D:D:D http://horologyzone.com/watch/watch-school/anti-magnetic-watch.html |
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Bromo33333 3T WIS 
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Just my 2 cents - I wonder if Seiko is using a Phase Locked Loop or Phase Locked oscialltor with the mechanical movement as the oscillator (the way you would build a crystal oscillator?). Most electronics, especially timers and clocks require a reference of some kind. A PLL that uses a mechanical oscillator feeding a piezoeelctric element might do the trick. They could then take the piezoelectric element to convert the electrical regulated impulse back to a mechanical vibration which would be very tricky, but could be highly accurate. But it would be typical quartz unless the piezoelectric elements were thermocompensated. The thing that makes me scratch my head, I cannot see a way to have an electric circuit without a reference of some kind, or at least a piezoelectric electrical/mechanical converter? Oh, and I am not a big fan of the quartz tick-tick-tick, but my favorite watch in my collection (gold/stainless Cyma quartz c 2000 as I got as a gift) has it. KenC wrote: JKang wrote:Seiko Spring Drive? Last edited on Wed Aug 5th, 2009 10:05 am by Bromo33333 |
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Bromo33333 3T WIS
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Oh forgot to add, if you hate the "tick" of the quartz, you could always get one without a second hand. They exist on some relatively high end, though ti's pretty rare. Also ... you could get a small second watch - the smaller dial makes the tick far less harsh looking. |
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nebgonf 3T WIS
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Citizen Eco Drive? |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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Omega tried themself with some auto/battery movement with the Omegamatic: Saw a Seamaster like that once. The rotor load a battery who gives very regular electric impulses and push-up the accuracy of the movement. The battery was said to have a long life but anyway, it still had to be changed over the years. The model I saw was 5 years old and the guy never had any trouble. Still, it seems like Omega didn't make a hit with this hybride... As the production stoped apparently, those watches are maybe rare but certainly less expensives than a regular auto. |
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