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Jeep99dad 3T WIS 
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Felllow WIS I know little about that brand but am liking the opics I see across the forums... There is one I particulalry like: Zinex Trimix GMT - Pirate Blue Dial , a 46mm GMT Diver. It has a modified ETA 2836 movement WR to 2000m. I missed one for sale a while back with black dial and there is one now for sale gentl;y used... Price is in the used Doxa territory, another brand I don't own yet and love... So what is your experience/opinion with Zinex and this specific model if you have/had it... How do you think they comprare to Doxa divers? Thanks Brice  Last edited on Wed Apr 21st, 2010 10:44 pm by Jeep99dad |
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SBD 3T WIS
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Interesting comparison there. I've owned one Trimix and two Doxas and I think they are fairly equal but really different. The Trimix is chunkier and bolder. There is nothing delicate about it. The case is thick, the bezel is thick, and man the bezel feel is excellent. The teeth are machined so well that it just grabs hold of your fingers to provide the best grip of any bezel I've handled. And the motion of the bezel has really firm clicks with no play. The Trimix also has much better lume both on the dial and the bezel. It's a sexy beast in low light. The down side for me, and the only reason I flipped it is that it was just too tall and heavy for me to wear frequently. The Doxas I've owned, both 750t's, one a GMT were both nice watches too, but neither one was "the" Doxa for me. I still have a Doxa on my must-have list...just have to figure out which one it is. The 750t has polished finishes that give it a bit more refined appearance. This is not to say that the fit and finish is better than the Trimix at all, but rather that a Doxa could go with a dress shirt whereas a Trimix is all tool. The bezel on the Doxa is also fantastic. I slightly prefer the Trimix, but that's a matter of taste. The case of the Doxa really hugs the wrist in a way that makes it simply disappear. It's probably the most comfortable dive watch I've ever worn. On the downside, the bezel finish is super easy to scratch. Also, the lume on these is underwhelming. I've heard that the 5000t is better, but the 750t lume gets obliterated by the Trimix. IMO you've picked out two really excellent choices in the price range. Best of luck to you whichever you choose! |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Zinex=China Doxa=Swiss need I say more? and once again I will say that eta does not make a modified 2836 gmt movement...these are modded in India and are nothing but a headache....google "eta 2836 modified gmt" and pages of replica watch sites will come up as this movement is the replicators movement of choice and most are just Asian eta copies... you buy a Doxa and you get a awesome watch that is Swiss Made and not only looks sweet it wears sweet with a rich dive watch heritage...you will be very happy Brice with the build of a Doxa imho  ...now if the Zixen was priced accordingly like other equally as nice watches coming out of the same HK factories I would try one but the 1 a member sent me to inspect fell way short of the $1600. price tag it carried,I'm not saying it was not a nice watch but not worth the price of admission especially with a suspect eta 2836 modified gmt?... they lose their value quite a bit on resale as well compared to a Doxa and other watches in this price range....in this category the Megalodon at half the price is the way to go imho but if you need to check a Zinex out then go for the ones that do not use this GMT movement...Zinex lume is excellent and in the category of Benarus and Seiko hand6.gif |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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Wel O I think you got me convinced!:) Thanks |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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Brice, Oscar laid it out pretty well for you there. I would stay away from the "modified" 2836 movement and O is right on with his first statement. As a big Doxa fan and owner I can tell you they make fantastic watches. For me this wouldn't even be a question. They don't compare to Doxa divers but fall in the wide variety of watches coming from the smaller boutique brands. Which isn't a bad thing. You'll spend a few more ducats on a Doxa, but you get a Swiss made timepiece with a rich diving heritage. |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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+1. Between the 2 brands, I'd go Doxa without batting an eyelash. Why? Track record. Go Go Brice!!!yahoo.gif |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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Thanks guys kinda confirm my original gut feeling and I have wanted a Doxa for some time anyway!;) it's just that this Zinex spoke to me from a look standpoint! Another brand and watch I like is the Korsbek OE. It may be a bit overpriced for some bur seems real well built. The OE model on Bracelet looks tough. Nice Fricker case too. Last edited on Thu Apr 22nd, 2010 09:09 am by Jeep99dad |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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The OE is a great watch I have one and love it but love my Doxa more. woohoo.gifwoohoo.gifwoohoo.gif |
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ndburley 3T WIS 
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I really like it but at that price Doxa would be better but I am just repeating everyone else. Anyway really like the look of it. |
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carlottt 3T WIS
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Not personal experience with either unfortunately, I like the Zinex better in terms of looks. It also seems more solid. But, excuse my ignorance on this, what is the significance of the Pirate label on the dial? Does it mean anything? |
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shovel187 3T WIS 
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I own both brands of the watches. The build quality of both is great. I will say that the Trimix is a little bit top heavy and i moved it to a rubber strap to keep it secure. I have never had any problems with the movements on any of my Zinex watches (i own 4). But i will say that when the Trimix showed up, the date did not sit centered in the window. I e-mailed Joe and sent it to him. I was blown away when he contacted me back 2 days later to let me know it was fixed. He even drove the watch down and handed it to me so i did not have to wait for it to be shipped back. This is the advantage of small brands with owners who really care about their products and customers. to echo what others have said, these 2 watches are really different animals. Trimix is a big, unique looking beast with nuclear lume ( but maybe a little heavy for an everyday wearer) and Joe torture tests them to the extreme to ensure the quality. The Doxa is a classic dive watch with a proven history. The quality (feel and finish) of the Doxa is similar to the high end Swiss pieces in my collection. it has that indescribable "something" about it. It is a great and reliable daily wearer. I love both these watches for their own reasons end of the day, pick the one that sings to you most. You can't go wrong with either of these choices |
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RouslanK 3T WIS
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I'd definitely go with a DOXA. I really love my 1000T Sharkhunter COSC, and loved it even more until the winding stem broke and came out of the case exactly three months after I received it from Switzerland. Of course, it is covered under the Doxa's limited warranty (that is, I had to pay to ship it to them for repair). However, as all of you will understand, it now has changed my opinion about DOXA. But, in the end, I'd always go with a "Swiss Made". |
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Willieboy 3T WIS 
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Allow me to thow in this wierd thought regarding the Doxa. The Doxa has the "Ne Decompression Limits" for compressed air diving cut into the bezel. A great idea I always thought. However, in this era of mixed gas diving, these limits are likely no longer accurate. Anal guy that I am,that would drive me nuts. |
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dannyh 3T WIS 
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I actually had a bad experience with Zinex. Received a watch with dust on the lume which I think is unforgivable at the $1500.00 price mark. There was also a small scratch/chunk out of the side of the watch. They would not answer my questions directly when I inquired what made their 2824's "high quality". I know others believe, on other forums, they were not necessarily forward in regards to answering where their cases were made. When I asked to for a return I felt that I received an attitude in return. However I did receive money back fast. I agree their lume is amazine and I love the designs but I am not impressed with their service. |
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Devin 3T WIS 
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Brice my buddy, One word DOXA!  |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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dannyh wrote:I actually had a bad experience with Zinex. Received a watch with dust on the lume which I think is unforgivable at the $1500.00 price mark. There was also a small scratch/chunk out of the side of the watch. I don't own any Doxa or Zinex... But I've been reading many comments about what you say: The fuzzy no-man's land origin of elements in Zinex. Seriously, this is deceiving from them. They seems to try desperatly to achieve a high status by hiding the fact that they rely on components fabricated in Asia... I get so irritated by those brands who practice unjustified high prices just to get a status in the watch world... Status is builded by constant thrue quality and feedbacks from the clients: Not high prices and undeserved profits mad.gif |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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Trent yours is a beauty and definitely helped!! Thank you all. I've decided that as nice as the Zinex is, the Doxa is one of those watches I keep going back to so I'll save a little more and get one... Probably gently used though that Special edition DWL on Doxa's site is tempting. There are three watches I really want and find myself going back to all the time, Zinex is not one of them. Doxa diver is along with an Omega and Breitling. The Doxa's look is just amazing and different from other divers out there, certainly would stand out in my collection. Thank you very much for your feedback guys! Brice |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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Willieboy wrote:Allow me to thow in this wierd thought regarding the Doxa. The Doxa has the "Ne Decompression Limits" for compressed air diving cut into the bezel. A great idea I always thought. However, in this era of mixed gas diving, these limits are likely no longer accurate. Anal guy that I am,that would drive me nuts. thank you. I'm no As and and I admit I most likely won't be doing any serious diving soon so not an issue. Thanks tho. Brice. |
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marinelite 3T WIS 
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I can understand your agony regarding dust in watch.. glad it was resolved. Trimix is my first boutique watch. I bought this for less than $1000 w rubber strap. Watch is big, thick, heavy, bright, domed sapp, nice engraved back case, n colorful on the dial. The ploprof hands are nice too. I did not purchase other new Zinex as i find most of dial styling is almost similar n most important Trimix filled me up. I read some good info here regarding Asia ETA movement n casing ..etc. I guess some company would not want to reveal much n some forum delete such post. I continue with purchase of BLUERING, ARTEGO n Sea Viper. Guess i will be happy with them as well, less costly too..   dannyh wrote: I actually had a bad experience with Zinex. Received a watch with dust on the lume which I think is unforgivable at the $1500.00 price mark. There was also a small scratch/chunk out of the side of the watch.. Last edited on Fri Apr 30th, 2010 01:33 pm by marinelite |
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dannyh 3T WIS
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I second your call on the Bluering. Waiting impatiently for mine to arrive! I don't necessarily have a problem with Asian encased ETA's. Only I did not appreciate Zinex's evading my questions in regards to them. Other than that I really do like their designs. And their watches are torches! Danny |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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I'm liking the Blue Ring too and would like to hear more from owners:) |
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Todd Caldwell 3T WIS 
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Jeep99dad wrote: Trent yours is a beauty and definitely helped!! Recently the Doxa forum over at WUS had a sticky, that was from the Mod. It basically said, if you say a bad thing about Doxa, your post will be deleted. Its a Doxa forum, so if you dont like it, you can,,,,,,,,off. There was a lot of posts about it in the last few weeks, on WUS, and a couple of other forums too. Its gone! Heard good thing, and plenty of bad too. Never had one myself, but to put them up there with Omega and CO, well i am not so sure about that.but what do i know i don't even own a watch but i am going to produce one i think and some noob will buy it lol |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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Doxa IS up there with Omega... In MY opinion of their looks and how they appeal to me in general... Just my taste. I am not saying it is as good a watch as the Omega, I don't know, but it I'd up there with the Omega in my Wanted list:) . Gotta buy what you really like and find yourself going back to if you're gonna spend that much $ (lots to me) on a watch or you end up flipping it and it becomes an even more expensive one. Thanks. Brice. |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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I would say the Doxa watches compare most favorably to the Omegas and Breitlings of the same ilk. I guess the co-axial Omegas might have an edge movement-wise but build quality appears equivalent with the watches I own. As for the Doxa forum... well I said something there they didn't like and it was zapped but its really their vendor forum. That was 2006 and I'm guessing this hasn't changed. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I will agree as far as how Doxa compares to other brands in the like...they make a fine watch. I give Doxa kudos for stating that they produce their watches within the Swiss Fed guidelines....I would never bash a company for being upfront and truthful and more companies should follow suit......there are only a handful of watch brands that can claim 100% Swiss Made anymore and you will pay for that accomplishment....every WIS on this forum is aware of it!  .....as far as how Doxa runs their forum ...it's their forum and it runs seperate of WUS....as a matter of fact when WUS crashed in 05' and lost all their data except for the previous half year or so and lost some 4 years worth of info it was Doxa that gave them a server...so Doxa is gonna do what they like in regards to how "their" forum is run.hand6.gif I personally agree that an "official brand forum" should be for the loyal fans to share and discuss their collections and pics and not a place for someone to air their dislikes or headaches.....50% of those complaining are doing so in regards to a watch they bought pre-owned with who knows how many previous owners or have never owned one!.... warranty issues should be discussed in private with the company rep imho....you'l get a more agreeable amount of CS that way in the long run....but you will always have those who just want to stir the pot and refuse to see things in the light of what they really are....so in many ways the Doxa forum was just in what they had to say in regards to this issue afaiac.  |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Honestly, as I said in the past, I believe in some little known brands capable to achieve equal or better quality than some high brands using ETA movements. I don't get only impressed by the popular status of a logo or a name. I get impressed by the quality delivered and performances. As I said also, I never owned a Doxa but the only time I holded one in my hand, it was a Shark-hunter PVD with a bezel turning totaly loose. The ratchet had gave up and the guy coudn't explain the reason. Also the watch seemed to be too light to me: At this time, I was used of my Certina DS3 who's a heavy diver. Doxa certainly makes great divers: No doubt or they would not have achieve this reputation. But I believe personaly that some little brands, also containing ETA movements, can equal this quality at lower price. Offcourse, those brands are not for people who want to show a popular name on them wrists... |
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nsg1tausend 3T WIS
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I have to tell you , I only have had the Nitrox in my hands but from what time I spent with Joe's first watch he was on the right track, well made and it looks like he has gotten it even better. I own Doxa's and they are different, but then they are a specific style all the same style cushion case, whereas Zixen is not. I think both are very good watches, one has been around for sometime, the other very well may be. Regards Robt Last edited on Sat May 1st, 2010 02:35 pm by nsg1tausend |
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RouslanK 3T WIS
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Has anyone else thought that Zinex sounds like a brand of medicine they often advertise on TV?Drool_27.gif Sorry, no offense to the fans of the watch. |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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RouslanK wrote:Has anyone else thought that Zinex sounds like a brand of medicine they often advertise on TV?Drool_27.gif Sorry, no offense to the fans of the watch. I agree on that even I don't watch American TV chanels... I personnaly don't specialy like the name. It's not easy to find and depose a name who don't exist at all and who isn't too close to another one. Anyway, they are called Zixen now. They certainly had troubles with other "Zinex" named: Like Zinex corporation who's established since 89coyote2.gif |
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shovel187 3T WIS
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Hammerfjord wrote: RouslanK wrote: Actually, they changed their name because a huge watch brand (with "X") in their name determined that it sounded too much like their brand. They of course have way too much money and too many resources and a small brand like Zixen could not afford to go to court against them (even if it probably would have turned out in their favor). It is sort of a similar story to what Omega did to Eddie and his "Broadarrow" brand |
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Gobo 3T WIS
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I once owned a zinex nitrox abyss , it was a great watch with a great solid case but for me the bezel let it down as somehow it felt cheap when turned. On a diver i like the bezel to be a nice tight click , i have an enzo emv which has the best bezel movement of any diver i have ever owned , i think anyone who has owned an emv would agree. |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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I went with a Doxa and am super happy! |
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