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FnuSnu99 3T WIS 
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Guys, your thaughts would be much appreciated on this on, as I just can`t seem to make up my mind on what to get myself as a b-day present ... Of these, who would you pick, and why ? All of them appele to my, in different ways, and all are over 44mm and have the ETA 2824 (2893)and have good lume. So things as build quality, and what comes with the watch play a role here. Of course build quality beeing the most important. And what you get for your hard earned money. And even more interesting, if there are any one you would NOT get. Don A LOT of review checking and searches all over the web, and all of these seem to fit the bill, but now need 2. opinions. So if anyone has any thoughts about this, please share  The contenders are: (all in dollars, couldn`t find the dollar "button"  )Magellan Irreantum at 545,- Helson Sharkmaster at 899,- Steinhart Triton DLC at 750,- Dievas Vortex at 880,- Benarus worldiver at 900,- Zixen vintage diver DSR at 995,- Boschett Cawe Dweller at 640,- And, not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but it is regarding a "new arrival" per say, at least a new arrival to be. But if I messed up, please give a word, and I will gladly move it. Rolf Last edited on Fri Feb 4th, 2011 08:04 am by FnuSnu99 |
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Wrath of Kwon 3T WIS 
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All very good choices. My explanations below. I'd go with the Dievas. Just my humble opinion. Thoughts, not thaughts, btw |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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The Vortex's case is in aerospace grade titanium, executed by Fricker in Germany: Here, for the case, you get much more for the money compare to others. Don't know where the Steinhart cases are made: They don't have to be made in Switzerland for having the Swiss-Made stamp on the dial but they may be. Anyway they are in S-Steel and them DLC seems to be a good PVD, nothing else. It don't seems to be close to the DLC used by Dievas on the AGV:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKt8LN8lHLw Vortex's titanium case is therefor lighter and stronger than S-steel...Will resist better on scratches/dings. It's guaranteed to 500m at list: Dievas allways underate them water tighteness for quality/security reasons. The 2824-2 is also adjusted... Honnestly, for me, the Vortex win. Read the specs on them site: It's impressively much watch for the buks. |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Thx Will and Wrath of Kwon, for both spell check and watch insight, hehe And, so far agree with both of you on the Vortex. Love the design, the easy-to-read dial, lume etc etc. But the other ones are not so crappy either, and therein lies the issue at hand, so to speak. And also, the Vortex is one of the more expensive of the listed. But, ever som nice. Just interesting to hear what you fellow WIS think, so appreciate it. Rolf |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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No problem Rolf! Yes, I agree and the other watches are also very cool. If one should buy the right thing, one should not stop for 2-300 buks difference anyway. Some watches are selling for over 2000$ and don't surpass the specs of the Vortex. Question is: Among your choosen watches that you all like, wich one will give you the highest satisfaction compare to the money invested? That's where I would choose the Dievas. |
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watchdaddy1 3T WIS 
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ALL THE WAY |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Hammerfjord wrote: No problem Rolf! Yes, I agree and the other watches are also very cool.As allways Will, I can trust you to keep it straight ... And, yes, that is the REAL question. And of course, can`t disagree on spending the extra 2-300 bucks either, nothing compared to the feeling on gets when un-wrapping a new wrist hugger. |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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watchdaddy1 wrote: ALL THE WAY Well, you deffinatly make a good argumente there, hehe. It looks F.....g GREAT!, and the james bond strap would be my choice also (all though a zulu and not the nato) As it`s an adjusted mvt, what +/- do you get out of it? And, as I see you wear yours on the wright, as I do, is the crown a problem at all? Thanks btw. Rolf Last edited on Fri Feb 4th, 2011 11:14 am by FnuSnu99 |
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watchdaddy1 3T WIS
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Rolf no problem w/ the crown............I think it keeps EXCELLENT TIME but I'm not sure until the next time I wear it, I set all my watches to the atomic clock while I'm wearing them ,then when I wear it again I check it , but NOT ALL THE TIME William |
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clouser 3T WIS 
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I'll go against the grain and recommend the blue dial Sharkmaster on blue Isofrane. |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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clouser wrote: I'll go against the grain and recommend the blue dial Sharkmaster on blue Isofrane.Before I was aware of the Vortex, this would have been my choice. I´m a BIG fan of the Omega ploprof 600 where this has its roots. But the pure specs on the vortex is nothing but impressive, and you get a lot of bang for the buck there. And was just told by my wife that she would by me the vortex, or any other in the list, for my birthday, so pretty happy with that  So now I´m having a bit of a problem deciding between the sharkmaster or the vortex, or even the triton. but either one would be a good choice I guess. But thanks clouser, for your opinion. Didn`t make the decision any easier now, hehe. Rolf |
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BlueViper 3T WIS
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Ok..I will throw in my .02! I have the worlddiver GMT and I love it. It is a very solid watch and has been running +/- 5 seconds with heavy use. I have it on the mesch bracelet and it is the most comfortable watch I wear. Don't overlook it. I also own several Steinharts and have been very happy with them...and the c/s. They are not divers so I cannot comment directly. Good luck on your choice! RB   Last edited on Fri Feb 4th, 2011 06:43 pm by BlueViper |
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clouser 3T WIS
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FnuSnu99 wrote: Before I was aware of the Vortex, this would have been my choice. I´m a BIG fan of the Omega ploprof 600 where this has its roots. But the pure specs on the vortex is nothing but impressive, and you get a lot of bang for the buck there. And was just told by my wife that she would by me the vortex, or any other in the list, for my birthday, so pretty happy with that I gave some serious thought to the Vortex when it first came out, but the lug to lug length was just too long for my 6.75" wrist. My cutoff point is 50mm, and I think the Vortex has a 54 or 55mm lug to lug. I also didn't like the fact that it doesn't have a date feature. I used to own a Bernhardt Sea Shark, and while I liked the look of the watch, I NEEDED the date wheel. However, if you have the wrist for it and you don't need the date feature, it's an excellent choice. Last edited on Fri Feb 4th, 2011 06:43 pm by clouser |
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watchdaddy1 3T WIS
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ZINEX is'nt a bad choice either Rolf, Here's mine |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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watchdaddy1 wrote: ZINEX is'nt a bad choice either Rolf, Here's mineNo, absolutly a contender also William. but a bit more pricy than the sharkmaster, and liking the hands of the SM a bit more, and both beeing hommages to the omega, not sure how much more value one gets on this compared to the SM |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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clouser wrote: FnuSnu99 wrote:My wrist is just shy of 8" so guess the lug-to-lug wont be a problem, but the no-date thing was a bit of a turn down, but besides that and the lume reportedly beeing week, I love the design. You got a view on the lume there Clouser?Before I was aware of the Vortex, this would have been my choice. I´m a BIG fan of the Omega ploprof 600 where this has its roots. But the pure specs on the vortex is nothing but impressive, and you get a lot of bang for the buck there. And was just told by my wife that she would by me the vortex, or any other in the list, for my birthday, so pretty happy with that |
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watchdaddy1 3T WIS
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Rolf let the cat outa' the bag  b4 I do |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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watchdaddy1 wrote: Rolf let the cat outa' the bagWell, in the end there could be only one, and its name was VORTEX!!!  So puled the trigger on a Dievas Vortex late last night, and some zulus to match, from Anders. So pretty happy camper here, just to bad there is allways the looong waiting. But thank you all for your opinions, much appreciated! Rolf |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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GRATULERER! |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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The Vortex is a good choice...it's a great field,dive,pilot watch that can be worn easily under a sleeve...but than what WIS does?....it is the only 1 that is made outside of HK as well and for the price a great deal on a Fricker cased/German made watch ... it is the most versatile of the bunch which I either own or have owned. ...the Sharkmaster would have been the 1 for sheer sport/dive...it is one of the best homages to date imho and 1 of the finest examples coming out of HK last year...if you are into vintage Omega than the Sharkmaster will scratch the itch without breaking the bank.  |
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elemental 3T WIS
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the rubber and sinn deployment strap matches and fits percectly...another option for you ..  Last edited on Sat Feb 5th, 2011 10:52 am by elemental |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: The Vortex is a good choice...it's a great field,dive,pilot watch that can be worn easily under a sleeve...but than what WIS does?....it is the only 1 that is made outside of HK as well and for the price a great deal on a Fricker cased/German made watch ... it is the most versatile of the bunch which I either own or have owned.Thanks Oagaspar! In the end it just had to be the vortex , by far the most bang for the buck, and looove the design. But that itch you are talking about, it still needs scratching, hehe, so just can`t keep ignoring the sharkmaster. But as the Vortex was a gift from the CO-home base, I guess she will use this for what it´s worth, and the comments like "How can you possibly need even more watches ...?!!" will probably reach new hights. So no thing as a free lunch. So the sharkmaster will have to just appear in a highly covert operation, and then sticking to "what? That old thing ...No, had that one from before we meet I think ..." And then sticking to that story NO MATTER WHAT  Will highly likely sink like a rock, as she can spot my caniving from a mile away, hehe. But can allways fall back on the fact that by buying me this one, she`s just fascilitating my addiction, so it´s acctually her fault Rolf |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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elemental wrote: the rubber and sinn deployment strap matches and fits percectly...another option for you ..I agree, the sinn depl. suits the vortex really well. And a sinn depl. is just something a WIS "needs" anyways, so thanks elemental, for pointing that out to me. |
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timesofplenty 3T WIS 
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Good choice! I've got the itch for a Vortex myself...hopefully it won't be long! |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS 
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Congrats! too late now but having owned all but the triton, I would have gone with the Zixen or Vortex... I kept my Vortex 1 day, just did not click with it at all but it is an impressive watch nonetheless. Zixen makes real high quality watch as well. |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Jeep99dad wrote: Congrats!Thanks Jeep99dad! Really eager to se how I will like it, when I see it in real life, and on the wrist. Cause it`s a bit different from mye other watches, (maybe one of the reasons I decided to give it a try?) Normaly like it to be 46mm or more, and at least 16mm tall, so this is a bit smaller and not so in-you-face. And not sure what I feel about the no-date issues (hope it will work for me) But what was the deal breaker for you, if I can ask? Seams to be a love-"hate" thing with the Vortex ... Rolf |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Rolf: The diameter size of a watch isn't the only factor for how much place the watch will take on the wrist... The lugs are a big factor also. I have around 62mm wide wrists and my 50mm Russian Shark falls right on me with 62mm lug to lug size.   My Egiziano homage is 60mm and 72mm lug to lug: I "fit" it but it's not "right my size".  Lug to lug size is important and remember that the Vortex is 54mm lug to lug for it's 44mm diameter(without crown). When a watch takes 54mm on your wrist, it start to be a big baby and can't look ridiculous except if you have monster wrists. For the date: I have many watches without date and enjoy them as much as the others, like many of us |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Hammerfjord wrote: Rolf: The diameter size of a watch isn't the only factor for how much place the watch will take on the wrist...I hear you William, and of course the lug to lug is (probably) THÈ key thing. But the prescence of a watch for instance of 46mm and 50mm lug-lug, to a 44mm and 54mm lug-lug is greater (imo). But I guess this just boils down to personal preference in the end. But, I´m sure the Vortex will fit my almost 8" wrists nicly. And the no-date issue I´m sure I can cope with also. Pics and initial thoughts will follow, when I get the darn thing (hate waiting ...) Btw, really cool that russian you got there! |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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And that Egiziano homage you can almost use as a wall clock, haha, but looks sweet |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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FnuSnu99 wrote:Hammerfjord wrote:Rolf: The diameter size of a watch isn't the only factor for how much place the watch will take on the wrist...I hear you William, and of course the lug to lug is (probably) THÈ key thing. But the prescence of a watch for instance of 46mm and 50mm lug-lug, to a 44mm and 54mm lug-lug is greater (imo). But I guess this just boils down to personal preference in the end. But, I´m sure the Vortex will fit my almost 8" wrists nicly. And the no-date issue I´m sure I can cope with also. Pics and initial thoughts will follow, when I get the darn thing (hate waiting ...) Thanks! Yes, this titanium Russian is hard to find as well... I tell you what: Mesuring you wrist perimeter isn't so relevant as it seems because a thick, but not so wide wrist will not fit a big watch as well as, a wide and not so thick wrist...Get it? Those Kobold cases are wearing big generaly: Don't refer yourself only by the mesures because some watch are giving the illusion to appear bigger than they are. Generaly it's because the construction of the case is rough in lines or massive... Last edited on Mon Feb 7th, 2011 06:44 am by Hammerfjord |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Hehe, ok William, I give ...kinda But as an owner of a 63mm wide, but not so thick (20cm/7.87") wrist, I still feel that a bit over 44mm looks best (on me), and in the end, it`s all a matter of personal preference. But of course, lug to lug is the thing that makes a watch wearable or not wearable. And anyways, I`m sure the vortex will be super! Last edited on Mon Feb 7th, 2011 07:22 am by FnuSnu99 |
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azpops 3T WIS 
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First question, where did you find a “New” Vortex??? You’ve got to be one heck of a shopper, with great connections, or as they say in Vegas..."A Lot of JUICE"..... is all I can say…. Anyways since I’m coming into this thread late. Here’s a few with a couple of different straps; Ted Su's Dive Buckle with back and white stitched straps (both notched from 24mm to 22mm). Note: Both straps are from Ted's origional softer material strap. I'm not sure if Ted still has this softer strap material available. The new strap material is much stiffer, but I found that it's too stiff for me.     Benarus Bead Blasted Mesh;  ....and Zulu  I would however, love to be able to afford a Kobold Ti Bracelet for it (used of course...LOL). When I'm able to, that would be too cool. Lance Btw: Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!!.... Last edited on Thu Feb 10th, 2011 03:08 am by azpops |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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azpops wrote: Howdy Lance! And thank you! First to your question about me beeing "connected" hahahaha. I`m about as connected as your average toilette cleaner in Vegas (meaning, not)  Got it from gnomonwatches, as it is back in stock, apperently. And the payment has gone through, also got confirmation that the watch and extra zulus are on its merry way. So nothing sneaky or covert on this one mate, just plain old web shopping Gotta say, your splendid pictures didn`t exactly make me more patient in the waiting here, hehe. Hopefully I have it in the start of next week. Until then, I`m currently rotating as many watches as possible, since I guess the Vortex is gonna be on for a while, when it finally gets here. Rolf |
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azpops 3T WIS
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Rolf, Man, "GOOD JOB" on this find, and your "TIMING" as well....  ....I think you're gonna love it!!! Well, since I'm sure it's snowing in your part of the world...Here's a parting shot...(till your Vortex arrives.... )...of it's cousin #098 playing and having fun in the Arizona Snow... Have a Great Day!!! Lance PS I don't know,...  ... but I think it'd be a good time to buy a "Lotto Ticket".....LOLPPS A bit off topic, but "Hammerfjord", I've been meaning to tell you that you've got one "Spooky Avatar".....  Last edited on Thu Feb 10th, 2011 08:12 am by azpops |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Thanks again Lance, and yup, I guess I was a little bit lucky. But that said, it doesn`t look like it`s an "limited" supply on the vortex at gnomonwatches at this time, cause it`s still there on the store. Just hope I acctually get the vortex now then, and not something completly different, hehe. Cause THAT would be a big bummer ... But gnomonwatches and Anders seams to get nothing but good rep on this and other forums, so guess I`m ok. And in regards to your Arizona snow, it`s comming down BIG TIME here right now, so need to bring out the shovel AGAIN. So if you need some of our snow, I`m more than happy to send you all I have in my driveway. LOL Rolf Last edited on Thu Feb 10th, 2011 08:28 am by FnuSnu99 |
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azpops 3T WIS
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Well since we're waiting for the Fed Ex Man and talk'in bout the weather...This is what it looks like around these parts Rolf...  ...and one more...  Lance Last edited on Thu Feb 10th, 2011 02:01 pm by azpops |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Damn, that looks nice Lance! Nice and WARM! After comming home from work today, only to be see that during the day, it has snowed aprox 35 cm (and it wasn`t exactly free of snow before either) And having to cleat the whole driveway ...Your neck of the woods looks pretty darn sweet. Not exactly from right outside my doore these, but you get the picture   But, on the bright side, according to the tracking info, the vortex has landed! Is of course held up by the ever so jolly customs service ...hopefully at my doore just over the weekend. Have a good one Lance! Rolf Last edited on Thu Feb 10th, 2011 01:48 pm by FnuSnu99 |
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azpops 3T WIS
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To you as well Rolf! Lance |
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