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azpops 3T WIS 
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Here it is; http://oceanictime.blogspot.com/2011/02/helson-3500m-prototype-exclusive.html Lance |
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IanM 3T WIS 
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Weeeeelllllll..... it sure is big. The comment about it being "wearable" is relative, of course. I think the use of the contrasting bezel ring is innovative, but it is too big for my girlie wrists. I can see it on the wrists of some of us here, and I hope that those who buy it, enjoy it! Cheers all - IanM  |
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azpops 3T WIS
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Personally, I don't know about this one... IMO that this design is not practical, but it would be interesting to hear what Peter's thoughts were while designing this prototype and or watch.Lance Last edited on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 11:59 pm by azpops |
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jgarnett 3T WIS 
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It looks like one of those bubble gum containers you used to get out of a machine ! |
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edwardschmedward 3T WIS 
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Hmmm... Too big, or not too big...irrelevant. (at least till actually available) Peter really has created something unique, and chock full of character! Whether I buy one or not, I think it's radically cool. |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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Ridiculous as a wristwatch imho. I swear Enzo was working on something goofy like this. Bigger is not always better. |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS 
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Love the vintage trend thats been going around (for some time), and also like that it`s "Taking its inspiration from a vintage depth gauge". But, then the liking stops. don`t really think I would buy it, cause even though I like the tool-look, this is a real door knob/door frame buster at fricking 22.5mm high! (16-18mm would be more than enough, imo) Guess it will come with its own carrying license, registered as a "blunt object, suitable as a weapon" But than again, I could be COMPLETLY wrong  , stanger things have happend ...Anyways, hope to see some wrist shots of it, that could "clear" up the whole practicality issue. But, if one likes it or not, gotta hand it to him for making something uniqe! Last edited on Tue Feb 22nd, 2011 08:08 am by FnuSnu99 |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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As much as I wasn't found of the Enzo, I kind of like this model. Maybe not for those who worry about that the watch would not fit under them shirt's sleeve... I never wear shirts so: No problemo. 47mm isn't surprisingly big. Now for the 22.5mm thick: I don't see it as a major problem. In fact, I don't see it as any problem at all, as I'm not gynecologist  It's just like a Megalodon with 3.5mm thickness added: If you can wear a Meg without looking like a penguin having a tambourine on his wing, then it's fitting you...  |
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timesofplenty 3T WIS 
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I like it, but don't think it's for me. I had a cool depth-gauge last year that I thought about making a watch out of, but too many projects so away it went. Here it is, the dial was bright orange and the all the text was lume that GLOWED. 47mm x 22mm, 19mm strap    Peter might have used this design so the watch could have had a bezel with a flat crystal. Last edited on Tue Feb 22nd, 2011 09:35 am by timesofplenty |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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OK, I'm the terd in the punchbowl. I like it a lot!!! 47mm and 22.5 is A-ok with me. My SMW 20,000ft is at 29mm high. My Laco Flieger is 20mm high. So Peter's next creation at 22.5mm is ok with me. I like the combination of colors a lot and all that vintage/retro feel adds more collectibility to the watch. This is similar to Enzo's Moon Landing Vehicle which I saw a few months back. While the Sheriff doesn't wear shirts  I cut my shirts just before the cuffs so this tall watch is no problemo. I just hope the price point is friendly.  |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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if everyone would look at this watch for what it is intended for (diving) then I don't see any problems with the height...too many WIS are desk divers looking for a daily wearer imo....as far as a functioning bezel is concerned I don't think too many serious divers use them for the purpose of timing dives anymore. ....the Megalodon is 19mm in height and easily worn as a desk diver but on the other hand the Charmex 12,000 ft. is 28.5mm thick and not easily worn for anything other than diving afaiac...so looking at Helsons new concept here I would say I like it because of the vintage feel and look but it wouldn't be something I would wear outside of a water environment. ...what I do find amusing is none of the watch parrots are up in arms over Peter using Enzos design! |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Well, sheriffs opinion and turds in punchbowls asidelaughing.gif, and also the whole desk-diver/true diver conundrum, this all boils down to personal preference I guess. Its like when I was a kid, and I would tell my mother I hated coliflower, and my mother would arguee "NO, IT TASTES GOOD!!!" Walking around with my Megalodon I migtht look like a penguin with a tamburin, but I FEEL butch. LOL!!    As other treads here at 3T, this is hilarious ! Gotta love 3T!!!And to my "defence", I used to be a TRUE diver, but now I`m desk-diving the hell out of all my watches. The deepest they will probably go nowadays is 3-4 meters TOPS! Anyways, will hold my dissing untill I see some acctual wrist shots of this tamburine:0) Rolf |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Hammerfjord wrote: As much as I wasn't found of the Enzo, I kind of like this model.But Will, promis me that if you ever take up practice as a gynocologist, please leave your Egiziano hommage 60x24mm at home ... |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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FnuSnu99 wrote:Hammerfjord wrote:As much as I wasn't found of the Enzo, I kind of like this model.But Will, promis me that if you ever take up practice as a gynocologist, please leave your Egiziano hommage 60x24mm at home ... I promis Rolf...I promis I'll be gentle... |
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stew77 Admin 
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While not for me, I do like the combination Ti and Bronze construction, and as far as the dimensions go, this one is not ridiculously big. I think the 'smallish', depth-gauge style design of the lugs lends to this case looking more bulbous than it really is (Now, I'm not saying the watch isn't big...it's big, just not ridiculously so IMO). Of note, the blog states that the case thickness is the same as the Shark Diver (18mm), and that it is that custom, thick sapphire that brings the total thickness up to 22.5mm. For reference, the ENZO Ref.500 that was posted on the blog back in November was 38mm thick, which sort of makes this Helson seem svelte. I figured Jeff would like this one as anyone wearing the SMW 20,000 FEET would find this one to be a fair bit smaller in size. Good thing they are both Ti construction! No doubt this one will take out a few door jams if you are wearing it for desk diving, but I definitely think Peter has succeeded here knowing that the inspiration for this one is a vintage depth gauge. ...to that end, it's a cool piece. Last edited on Tue Feb 22nd, 2011 01:05 pm by stew77 |
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blbarron 3T WIS 
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Love my Shark Diver but don't think this one's for me. Never been a fan of the domed crystals. I like larger & thicker watches but this one's a bit much, 20mm is about my limit on thickness. I'm sure some of the thickness & crystal has to be there to maintain the 3500M water resistance as well though so there is a reason to the size. |
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joecb 3T WIS 
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Hi guys, haven't posted in a while....that said....I really do like the retro look of this. I know I wouldn't wear it often, but it really appeals to me. As said before, I like to combination of Ti and brass, also like the look of the crystal, real old school depth guage look, with the dial layout. I think, based on price it would be a real collectors item, to mostly display. |
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azpops 3T WIS
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Well guys/Gals, my comment regarding the "practicality" of this design was geared toward a daily wear watch. However, I am a Big Fan of Peter Helson. Not only for his watches, but as the person behind them, as well as his awesome communication skills and customer service. Truth be told, my only wish is that I was Flush again. Why? Because I’d love to be in a position to support him (as well as the many like him in this industry) by purchasing the many watches he‘s made available to us. Which btw, I emailed him in this regards. Although he’s been one very busy fellow during the past year. He’s still taken the time to respond to my many emails in a extremely efficient and professional manner. I had a warranty issue with my first SD’r…I found that I had nothing to worry about, because the way Peter handled this situation…It went as smooth as silk! Back to the term “practical”. Having time to think about this timepiece, this would not be a daily wear watch, but it would be a great watch to own not only for it’s obvious design's conversation value, but more importantly since it would be a part of the story/history behind the Helson Watch Co.. Lance Last edited on Tue Feb 22nd, 2011 06:22 pm by azpops |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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how about the crystal on this vintage Rolex that was strapped to the Trieste when it went to over 10,000ft.!...cool vid. http://www.rolex.com/en#/world-of-rolex/sports-and-culture/exploration/trieste |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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stew77 wrote:While not for me, I do like the combination Ti and Bronze construction, and as far as the dimensions go, this one is not ridiculously big. I think the 'smallish', depth-gauge style design of the lugs lends to this case looking more bulbous than it really is (Now, I'm not saying the watch isn't big...it's big, just not ridiculously so IMO). Of note, the blog states that the case thickness is the same as the Shark Diver (18mm), and that it is that custom, thick sapphire that brings the total thickness up to 22.5mm. Totally agree with you, Chris. The colors of ti and bronze were the comments I made on the Helsons in bronze you gents posted of late. Yes again, this is a size that really appeals to me and because my lifestyle is a mix of office and field, I can be flexible enough to wear this...with some adjustments on those door jambs. On Oscar's point about the parrots, he is right too. Enzo's Lunar Landing Craft at 39mm is very similar to Peter's proto. Anyway, I hope the price is friendly enough for me as my sonar is on PING PING PING mode now  Last edited on Tue Feb 22nd, 2011 09:05 pm by bigrustypig |
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stew77 Admin
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bigrustypig wrote: stew77 wrote: I would love to see you grab one of these Jeff!!!  ...Heck, even though I'm pretty sure this one is not for me, I'm slightly tempted to put this on my radar. Like you said, it will definitely be interesting to see what the price point ends up being on this one. |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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stew77 wrote:bigrustypig wrote:stew77 wrote: Chris, I just emailed Peter. Asked a few details. I will revert to you as soon as he replies. "Temptation.....I can resist anything but temptation" (Mark Twain??) |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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the Kazimon Drei has a 4mm thick raised saph and is 17mm tall granted it's only 40mm but it wears very well. ...so this new Helson at 47mm with a 3.5mm raised saph and an overall height of 22.5mm should look pretty balanced on the wrist imo...I agree with Jeff that if the price is right I would also be in...the bronze and Ti combo does look sweet... Attachment: drei side crystal.jpg (Downloaded 54 times) |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Then it will cost you 1699$ shipped... I'm giving up... http://www.helson-watch.com/news/ |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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The Guage as Helson is calling it is a unique watch and I would like to own one but not sure I'm ready to let go of $1699. to do so....that kind of coin can but a lot of watch off the sales forums imo....we'll see depending on how many will be produced and that may sway me... |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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oagaspar wrote:The Guage as Helson is calling it is a unique watch and I would like to own one but not sure I'm ready to let go of $1699. to do so....that kind of coin can but a lot of watch off the sales forums imo....we'll see depending on how many will be produced and that may sway me... I agree, too many nice babies around for this price tag...Even some inhouse pieces. |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Hammerfjord wrote: Then it will cost you 1699$ shipped...Well, not that entusiastic about the design, I´m following my fellow contryman William, and I´m out  . Hope you feel better soon William, and the fever drops  If not, can I have dibs on your KAZ 1500 co-axial??? laughing.gif |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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FnuSnu99 wrote:Hammerfjord wrote:Then it will cost you 1699$ shipped...Well, not that entusiastic about the design, I´m following my fellow contryman William, and I´m out Bad luck Rolf: I'm feeling better and it seems like I will die another day , so you can forget the 1500 co-axial as my wrist isn't cold yet I can understand that the specialy cut sapphire crystal for this model pushes the price up but I would have expected something more in the 1200$ range... Well, I will survive the miss of this watch... |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Hammerfjord wrote: FnuSnu99 wrote:Well, had to ask ... Glad to hear that you`re feeling better William!!! |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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Well, Peter was kind enough to email me a reply and mentioned that only 20 were made. He really planned only 1 but some of his buddies pressed him to make some more. I'm really liking the watch especially since it looks so collectible and certainly so simple and unique in a league of its own. But.....I'm saving up for something on my radar....but if the price were a bit lower, I guess I'd crumble and shoot it down. Love that Gauge!!! |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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Hopefully some of those 20 will end up in the hands of some 3T WIS, so that we can see some nice wrist shots in the future. Eventhoug not for me, will be interesting to see how it looks in real life. |
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joecb 3T WIS
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A bit steep and to have to foot the full price next month... a bit high for a timepiece that would sit in my display case most of the time.. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Good news for all who got in on this unique diver...25 total and not to be seen again in this configuration (which I was glad to hear)...possibly a smaller version 13-14mm height in the future. ...The Gauge arrives on Friday the 11th and shipping will start that day or Saturday!....should be some BIG watch imho!  |
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stew77 Admin
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oagaspar wrote: Good news for all who got in on this unique diver...25 total and not to be seen again in this configuration (which I was glad to hear)...possibly a smaller version 13-14mm height in the future. Excellent !!!  Can't wait to see some real world pics !!!!! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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stew77 wrote: oagaspar wrote:I can't wait to see it myself Chris....on my wrist!Good news for all who got in on this unique diver...25 total and not to be seen again in this configuration (which I was glad to hear)...possibly a smaller version 13-14mm height in the future. ...I wore my bronze Shark to The Schvitz/Cleveland today in the steamroom ...I didn't know if the heat and steam would help the patina along but had an idea it would and it did!...totally different look that with the egg bath...if it ever stops raining here I'll take some pics. |
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elemental 3T WIS
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i know bathys isnt loved here, but i love the UNITAS movement, and was awating the bomb timer model because its throw-back qualities. then i saw the price and decided to pass. |
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stew77 Admin
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oagaspar wrote: stew77 wrote:oagaspar wrote:I can't wait to see it myself Chris....on my wrist!Good news for all who got in on this unique diver...25 total and not to be seen again in this configuration (which I was glad to hear)...possibly a smaller version 13-14mm height in the future. Awesome Oscar!!!! ...I will be waiting in anticipation of the "Gauge" showing up on your wrist!!!! This is a cool one (I got distracted by something else in the meantime...and well...a WIS has to show a little restraint!!!) I was VERY tempted, however.Would love to see some pics of your Bronze Shark Diver after a trip to the steam room!!!! I had the same thoughts as you in that high humidity and heat has got to be very good for developing some patina!!!! Look forward to seeing it in the daily post (or please feel free to post it up as a separate post!!!) ...it sure seems like there is interest from impatient WIS regarding how to get that virgin bronze to get on with the patina. Man, how I wish I was near a tropical location (happened back near Christmas, but all before the bronze pieces started showing up). |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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stew77 wrote: oagaspar wrote:I believe the Gauge will be a bit different in life than in the proto pics...we will see shortly...the bShark is darkening quickly since it's steam bath...the case is catching up to the bezel color since this pic was taken...I think Helson used a different bronze composition than Benarus is the way it is patina'd.stew77 wrote:oagaspar wrote:I can't wait to see it myself Chris....on my wrist!Good news for all who got in on this unique diver...25 total and not to be seen again in this configuration (which I was glad to hear)...possibly a smaller version 13-14mm height in the future. Attachment: IMGP0785.JPG (Downloaded 99 times) |
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oagaspar wrote: stew77 wrote:oagaspar wrote:I believe the Gauge will be a bit different in life than in the proto pics...we will see shortly...the bShark is darkening quickly since it's steam bath...the case is catching up to the bezel color since this pic was taken...I think Helson used a different bronze composition than Benarus is the way it is patina'd.stew77 wrote:oagaspar wrote:I can't wait to see it myself Chris....on my wrist!Good news for all who got in on this unique diver...25 total and not to be seen again in this configuration (which I was glad to hear)...possibly a smaller version 13-14mm height in the future. Awesome Oscar!!! The B-Shark looks very cool and the patina is really coming along!!! As far as I know, both the Moray and the Shark Diver use the UNI 5275 Alloy (CuAl11Fe4Ni4)...Anonimo uses this Alloy on their bronze pieces too...I know that Kazimon used a different Alloy for their Bronze 1500. I think the fact that the Moray is a Blasted finish sort of "opens up" the metal a little more which I'm thinking is contributing to them looking very different in appearance (only my thoughts though... ).Can't wait to see those Gauge pieces start to arrive!!! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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stew77 wrote: oagaspar wrote:never thought of the blasted vs brushed but it sounds logical...the bShark is so different...I'll takes some side by sides later.stew77 wrote:oagaspar wrote:I believe the Gauge will be a bit different in life than in the proto pics...we will see shortly...the bShark is darkening quickly since it's steam bath...the case is catching up to the bezel color since this pic was taken...I think Helson used a different bronze composition than Benarus is the way it is patina'd.stew77 wrote:oagaspar wrote:I can't wait to see it myself Chris....on my wrist!Good news for all who got in on this unique diver...25 total and not to be seen again in this configuration (which I was glad to hear)...possibly a smaller version 13-14mm height in the future. ...I am excited about the Gauge and never thought I would pony up this amount on a boutique but I have seen a couple brands that started out that way end up in the mainstream and speculating is just another piece of this hobby imo. |
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Pearlmanz 3T WIS 
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Can't see that one unless you are going to use it for diving only. Just not practical to wear IMHO. Thank you for sharing. |
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blueradish 3T WIS 
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I put myself on the waiting list, crossing my fingers for an email, but realistically I know it's a long shot. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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just received the e-mail...The Gauge will be here Monday morning! |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote:just received the e-mail...The Gauge will be here Monday morning! Perfect, Oscar. I look forward to wrist shots and a good review of the Gauge, if you have time. Your bronze Helson has a patina that is really eye-catching and uncommon. I think that will darken over time. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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TY Jeff...the Sharks patina is coming along...I am looking forward to The Gauge and seeing it live... |
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blueradish 3T WIS
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Oh boy, just got a confirmation email from Peter that I made the cut. That means more delicious pix boys! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Congrats on getting in on The Gauge Jason!....which bezel did you end up with? |
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blueradish 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: Congrats on getting in on The Gauge Jason!....which bezel did you end up with? Thanks, can't wait. I got bezel #3, which I believe is the same one as he had in the prototype pix. How 'bout you?  |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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bezel #2 here which is the beveled....and bezel #1 is the flat top and #3 was the rounded,3 bezels were offered... Attachment: gauge #2.jpg (Downloaded 40 times) |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Pics form Peters Gauge:lume shot and the unique crown system which requires a key to operate...    |
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blueradish 3T WIS
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Oh boy, this guy is getting excited! |
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