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 Posted: Mon May 16th, 2011 11:30 pm
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Has Doxa's US Patent N. 3505808 expired? Reason I ask they like advertising this on there watches. "DOXA’s patented no-decompression dive table bezel (US patent N. 3505808)." I did some research I think it has but i'm not sure. I would like to see this feature on other brands or probably my own watch design one of these days.subtlelaugh.gif I went with the worst case scenerio 20 years.






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http://www.google.com/patents?id=IztlAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

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 Posted: Tue May 17th, 2011 08:59 am
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Patents can usualy run for 20 years and design-patents for 14 years...More details there from Wiki.
United States

Main article: Term of patent in the United States
In the United States, under current patent law, for patents filed on or after June 8, 1995, the term of the patent is 20 years from the earliest claimed filing date. For patents filed prior to June 8, 1995, the term of patent is either 20 years from the earliest claimed filing date or 17 years from the issue date, whichever is longer. Extensions may also be had for various administrative delays. (The exact date of termination may be zealously litigated, especially where daily profits from a patent amount to millions of dollars, e.g., pharmaceuticals.)
Other types of patents may have varying terms. For example, in the U.S., design patents (based on a decorative, non-functional design) typically have a 14-year term.
If the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) delays the issuance of a patent, it is possible to receive extensions. This may result in patents being issued for periods longer than 20 years. The reasons for extensions include:
Delayed response to an application request for patent.
Exceeding 3 years to consider a patent application.
Delays due to a secrecy order or appeal.
It is possible to receive time extensions equal to the amount of delay.
[edit]Europe

The European Patent Convention requires all jurisdictions to give a European patent a term of 20 years from the actual date of filing an application for a European patent or the actual date of filing an international application under the PCT designating the EPO.[2] The actual date of filing can be up to a year after the earliest priority date. The term of a granted European patent may be extended under national law if national law provides term extension to compensate for pre-marketing regulatory approval.[3] For EEA member states this is by means of a supplementary protection certificate.
Protection of patents issued in European Union countries were only enforced for three years (until 1995)[clarification needed] against pharmaceuticals manufactured in Spain (and cheaply available[citation needed]).[citation needed] Prior to its Treaty of Accession, Spain did not offer patent protection for pharmaceutical products.[citation needed]



And there from a US attorney:
For most patents that are still enforceable the "term" of the patent is either 20 years from the filing date of the application (or its priority document(s)). There may still be a few patents that have a term of 17 years from issuance (the patent issue date). Some patents also are entitled to extensions because of delays that occurred during "prosecution" (the process of obtaining the patent). A patent attorney should be able to review the patent and tell you the actual expiration date if it is a close call.

Once a patent expires it is "dedicated to the public." So if you found patent that described a product that you wanted to produce, and that patent had expired, you should be able to use the patent as a blueprint for your invention. For example, if the patent described A, B, and C, you could produce a product that had A, B, and C.

You should be careful that you do not add any "bells and whistles" that might have been patented after the original patent. For example, if the patent described A, B, and C, you produced a product that had A, B, C, and D, there could be another patent that "claimed" element D that you might infringe.


So it seems to me that Doxa can forget it and that's why Irreantum flys free in the US....
On the opposite, Débaufré had to stop it's B-Uhr pilot production because of Richmont group's IWC owned brand and threats: So Richmont protected the design in the US not so long ago...
Anyway, patents are not efficient in every lands as you could read and they are specialy not efficient in Hong-Kong
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 Posted: Tue May 17th, 2011 12:28 pm
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Legally I can use the DOXA’s no-decompression dive table bezel, but the fan club would accuse me of stealing from the original design.subtlelaugh.gif

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 Posted: Tue May 17th, 2011 03:13 pm
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Johnny P wrote:
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Legally I can use the DOXA’s no-decompression dive table bezel, but the fan club would accuse me of stealing from the original design.subtlelaugh.gif


Zeno been there a while ago my friend...
http://www.doxa300t.com/zeno/zeno.htm

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