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joecb 3T WIS 
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so on another forum, there was some controversy surronding the A-5 taking design elements from other companies watches. The obvious and most bitter one was on the case itself, being the Kobold case.... for some reason their was alot of venom towards the A-5, but not so much towards the other companies who have also used the Kobold case design. next was there were alot of that other forum members, who were critiqueing and pretty much condeming the A-5 dial as a blatant rip off... Well, I don't have a Kobold to compare with but I do own a DWP, so I took a crappy comparison photo, so you can make your own decision on it. to me, there similar but very much different enough that the A-5 is original in it's design.. Attachment: IMG-20111205-00475.jpg (Downloaded 198 times) |
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joecb 3T WIS
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here is a comparison photo with the H2O Attachment: IMG-20111205-00476.jpg (Downloaded 196 times) |
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elemental 3T WIS
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thats funny..the dwp is a rip of of a great many things itself. |
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Johnny P Advisor 
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There is not even a close resembles, knowing what I know of Armida after handling a A2 you couldn't give me a Boschet, Out of the three watches you posted I'll go with the Armida. Especially how he took care of this customer see link below. This gesture was beyond any customer service I ever heard of, It wasn't about the money he felt sorry for what happen, and took care of his customer kudos to Chris. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f74/armida-customer-service-rocks-617613.html |
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joecb 3T WIS
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Johnny P wrote: There is not even a close resembles, knowing what I know of Armida after handling a A2 you couldn't give me a Boschet, Out of the three watches you posted I'll go with the Armida. Especially how he took care of this customer see link below. This gesture was beyond any customer service I ever heard of, It wasn't about the money he felt sorry for what happen, and took care of his customer kudos to Chris. Very Nice!!! I don't know of too many watch companies that would do that.. |
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joecb 3T WIS
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There are soo many companies using the same cases these days, that it really doesn't matter to me. What matters is what they do with that case, in other the whole watch, dial bracelet, movment, fit & finish, etc.. another comparison is Arctos and Zenton, also this case has been used by alot of other companies, I think Helson also used it.. Again I apologize for the fuzzy photo... Attachment: IMG-20111205-00474.jpg (Downloaded 185 times) Last edited on Mon Dec 5th, 2011 10:03 pm by joecb |
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joecb 3T WIS
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There are soo many companies using the same cases these days, that it really doesn't matter to me. What matters is what they do with that case, in other the whole watch, dial bracelet, movment, fit & finish, etc.. another comparison is Arctos and Zenton, also this case has been used by alot of other companies, I think Helson also used it.. Attachment: IMG-20111205-00474.jpg (Downloaded 185 times) |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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good job Joe...TY for taking the time to do a comparison! |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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elemental wrote: thats funny..the dwp is a rip of of a great many things itself. Tru dat.  |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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so on another forum, there was some controversy surronding the A-5 taking design elements from other companies watches Truly the dumbest arguments found on forums. Which watch does not take some cues from another? The Kobold people are pissed that they spend 3 times as much,for in the end is just a watch. Others have their darling brands etc. and feel this need to be the defender of perceived ingenuity. In the end all these micro brands are not watch "Makers" but producers. (For the most part). They pick and chose cataloge parts and make a watch. What does seperate them is their QC and CS. The benefit to us is an above average product at an affordable price. As said often, buy what you like and dont look back. |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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Well, about this A5 case, Tactico was the first to put this one the market after Kobold: http://www.tacticowatches.com/crbst_3.html and it's made in Hong-Kong. Laco had taken out few months before that ,a similar design with the crown oriented differently: http://www.worldwatchreview.com/2010/12/25/laco-squad-1000-meter-automatic-diving-watch-ref-861704/ And we all know that Dievas was there with the Vortex even before... Fricker has apparently open a facility in Hong-Kong so this case is flying everywhere now: No surprise! So the bad mouths can unleash them venom on Armida but they should then do the same with everybody: Counting on the fact that Kobold would own this design...?? But it's not the case in fact: Kobold don't seems to own a damn frog crap there as this case became a catalogue product from Chinese case-makers and is running freely in the watch world... Anybody can make those cases: Even Kazimon proved it for the fun. Let's chill on that and enjoy the watches: Nobody is forced to watch or buy there... |
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mal9 3T WIS
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All of these threads blaming Armida for ripping off Kobold has been very entertaining. Why the heck should anyone give a rats arse what someone else likes. It seems some have a bone to pick with a certain forum, therefore their forum watch is taboo. It's easy to be Mr. Badarse Watch Cop when you sit at the computer. Hey lets jump on the band wagon and flame this watch or love that watch. I'm wearing my A5 as I type. I like it, heck, I like all my watches and everyone else's too. The problem with micro brands is that they make it possible for a below average John Q like me to spend lots of money on watches. I like my A1 too! |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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mal9 wrote:All of these threads blaming Armida for ripping off Kobold has been very entertaining. Why the heck should anyone give a rats arse what someone else likes. It seems some have a bone to pick with a certain forum, therefore their forum watch is taboo. It's easy to be Mr. Badarse Watch Cop when you sit at the computer. Hey lets jump on the band wagon and flame this watch or love that watch. I'm wearing my A5 as I type. I like it, heck, I like all my watches and everyone else's too. The problem with micro brands is that they make it possible for a below average John Q like me to spend lots of money on watches. I like my A1 too! I agree with you there. I observed that those guys who are ready to pay fully for way overpriced watches, are getting pissed when a similar cheaper model arrive on the market: They can't go around anymore with them status of money burners apparently... True also that there is a little bitter forum-war going on with some guys who really understood that arrogance has no limits: "Here we have hair on our chest but on the other forum, they have nothing but baby's butts...Blablabla...I killed 3 bears with a fork when I went to pick up my mail this morning...Blablabla...My watch is real, your's is a second range imitation for poor people and I can pay for the botox and silicone of my wife who's more real than yours...Blablabla..."  |
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joecb 3T WIS
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Hammerfjord wrote: mal9 wrote: TRUTH!!!!!  |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS 
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Sheriff, you are such a poet  |
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AntFarm 3T WIS 
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Hammerfjord wrote: mal9 wrote: Will I find what you say both humorous and sad at the same time because it is so true... |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Thanks...I wish it would be different, me too... |
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TopGun 3T WIS
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Bottom line is... Buy what you like and wear it in good health. It's only watches. |
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mal9 3T WIS
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TopGun wrote:Bottom line is... Buy what you like and wear it in good health. It's only watches. Amen brother!!! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Amen Brother Will! Attachment: thor.jpeg (Downloaded 80 times) |
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Johnny P Advisor
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oagaspar wrote:Amen Brother Will! |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Thanks Oscar and Johnny! Let's hope some people open them eyes reading this. We know that there is many silent readers as you said last night Oscar |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Again the sheriff is right!!! Just my opinion, but up to about 3 or 4 years or so ago I was a pure-bred idealist until I discovered the micro brands. I then realized, just like what Sheriff Will said, cases and designs abound with hardly any restrictions. I then became a realist and as long as I knew the origins of the movement and country of production, as well as the ownership and transparency of the micro brand itself, I entered each purchase decision with eyes wide open. |
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afc14284 3T WIS 
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Wow what a Thread!!! I find it very amusing to read that on other forums some brands get burned because they look similar to other brands,,. this was discussed with the Crux - SAS debacle.. I just think that this them demostrates how people can be hipocrites!!!! C'mon people!! We live in a competitive world where you have to rely on that extra ummpphh (or je ne sais quoi) in order to be a leader in your market! I work in telecommunications and our strategy is based in aggregate value to the customer.. nobody cares about coverage or capacity.. why? because all the competitors have the same coverage.. it's no mistery where they need to build sites in order for their network to work.. the philosophy of "he who has more coverage will rule" is over.. now the competition is in what ELSE can you offer potential customers in order for them to decide to go with your company.. Micro brands have understood this concept.. they have excellent CS; they make us feel as if our needs are their concern.. Try getting a big name brand to answer an email to you!! Now in the case of burning a company for having a similar case then Kobold or any other company should not source their cases to HK based companies that are going to go and offer the same case to other companies.. In conclusion.. worry about your own brand and how you treat your customers!!! That's a sure way to survive over your competition! My apologies if I rambled on... |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Try getting a big name brand to answer an email to you!! Well, it can happen...Even we could not considerate ALPINA/Frederique Constant as a huge brand, they are still not so little and I experienced a first class communication with Mathieu Ganivet, them after-sales-manager who sent me a bracelet for my Alpina Regulator... |
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