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| Posted: Mon Nov 26th, 2012 03:06 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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I specialy like the cushion cases and designs they make. Classy or sporty... You find it all on the site. The brand is also in the Sowind group as Girard Perregaux. I like the fact that they have an in-house movement JR 1000 with different complications who seems to be used in all them new watches: It seems very well made. I let you have a look http://www.jeanrichard.com/en/   
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26th, 2012 05:11 pm |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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Nothing new as far as the case Will, but very attractive dial, hands, and bezel. Nice looking movement also
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26th, 2012 05:41 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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No, there's no new case there Tony. Everything been kind of done there and a watch case always looks a bit like another one you know... If not, people find it weird. But those are possible to find on the net at reasonable price: Good price for an in-house in fact. And you are guaranteed that this movement is developed close to Girard-Perregaux standards. Daniel Jean Richard was using ETA ébauches but JR is decided to stick in-house now. It's a good evolution and I would say that they seems to give much watch for the buks: As much as Alpina, Frederique Constant, Nomos and others would give on the in-house side for a non-crazy price. 
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26th, 2012 07:37 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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I agree with Tony,nothing new...I had a Chronoscope with an eta inside at a fair price(under $1000.),same watch with the in-house etalike at $5000.+...meh 
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27th, 2012 05:28 am |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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oagaspar wrote:I agree with Tony,nothing new...I had a Chronoscope with an eta inside at a fair price(under $1000.),same watch with the in-house etalike at $5000.+...meh "in-house ETA.like??? Don't look like an ETA to me... I believe that your chronoscope is a Daniel.Jean.Richard model. In 2002 , the name was changed from Daniel.Jean.Richard to Jean.Richard as they went in-house production. They dumped the D.J.R stock everywhere later on: They all had ETA movements. The first Jean.Richard watches certainly had ETA bases between 2002 and 2004: Before the in-house movement get ready in 2004. By the way, some of those in-house are selling under 2000$ on the Bay and Proworth... Like I said, affordable... This model is going down to 1269$ on worldofwatches.com: I guess the size isn't attractive for many men http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jean-Richard-62118-11-61A-AAE-LG-Mens-Paramount-Squar-/260787424609?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3cb8244d61 http://www.proworth.com/jeanrichardgentstvscreenautomatic-1-1-1.aspx Here's the whole story. Founded 1988 Established La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland JeanRichard's story A guide published in 1766 states that Daniel JeanRichard was born in 1665 in the hamlet of Les Bressel, halfway between La Chaux-de-Fonds and Le Locle. He saw a watch for the first time when he was 15, a piece brought back by a horse trader from England which was no longer working. Known for his skill, Daniel studied and repaired it and then made one like it. One year later he created his very first watch. He subsequently was called on to work on other pieces, orders were placed and his workshop was set up. This figure is considered to be a founder of the watchmaking industry in the Neuchâtel region at the end of the 18th century and a pioneer in training. He is credited with the invention of new machinery and tools in the Neuchâtel Jura and with organising what is known as "establissage", i.e. the founding of the watch assembly workshops. His name still figures as one of the major personalities in Swiss watchmaking, representing the industrial development of a region. 1681 He creates his first watch, and the first to be manufactured in the region. 1741 Death of Daniel JeanRichard. 1988 Luigi Macaluso, Chairman of the Sowind group, takes over the Daniel JeanRichard brand, now set up in Le Brassus. 2002 Mr Macaluso decides to change the name in a move to modernise the brand: Daniel JeanRichard becomes JEANRICHARD. 2004 A major turning point for the brand with the launch of the in-house movement JR1000, the fruit of over five years research and development. Designed to accommodate several complications easily, the JR1000 calibre can be supplemented by various modules providing virtually unlimited functions. The first in-house JR1000 movement is presented in a new case, also an in-house production - the Paramount. The Watch Tools and Machinery Museum opens its doors in the same year on the ground floor of the JEANRICHARD "Villa". 2005 The brand pays tribute to Daniel JeanRichard 340 years after his birth with a new manufactured case: the Bressel 1665. 2006 Presentation of a complication with a linear power reserve. 2007 The brand sets off on a new sporting adventure - a partnership with the legendary motorbike manufacturer, MV Agusta. At the same time, JEANRICHARD launches its square hour complication and the 2TimeZones model. 2008 JEANRICHARD breaks new ground with the launch of the Sport Diverscope and Chronoscope pieces in injected rubber. 2009 Presentation of the Tourbillon Paramount with linear power reserve and signing of the partnership with Giacomo Agostini, the greatest motorbiking legend the world has ever known.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27th, 2012 07:33 am |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Here's the latest Diverscope with Linear power reserve. http://blog.perpetuelle.com/dive-watches/jeanrichard-diverscope-lpr-dive-watch/ The earlier in-house Diverscope can be found for 2000 US$ there http://www.fitzroviawatches.co.uk/Sale%20Watches/Girard%20Perregaux%20Jean%20Richard%20Diverscope%20281301161AAC6/
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27th, 2012 10:02 am |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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this brand has been around the block more than once,including being sold on Shopnbc,by Lior, owner of World of Watches,from the diverscope,to the TV dial models,and never gained any real following...what is happening now is the whole "in-house" movement which means notta to most collectors,and only higher prices for manufacturers...don't get sucked in by the hype as most of the in-house movements are all etalike in design...the Jean Richard with eta is a much better buy for the same watch imho,and worth looking out for. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/sold-jeanrichard-diverscope-300m-663735.html
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27th, 2012 10:34 am |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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oagaspar wrote:this brand has been around the block more than once,including being sold on Shopnbc,by Lior, owner of World of Watches,from the diverscope,to the TV dial models,and never gained any real following...what is happening now is the whole "in-house" movement which means notta to most collectors,and only higher prices for manufacturers...don't get sucked in by the hype as most of the in-house movements are all etalike in design...the Jean Richard with eta is a much better buy for the same watch imho...and even some of those are overpriced,you will see the resurrection of many brands over the next year or so,for some it will be new,others nothing new.. I know that when Daniel.Jean.Richard closed , they dumped them watches everywhere even on Shopnbc... They went cheap. Now: They just modified the name to Jean.Richard but... If they would have take a totally different name with slight different designs and them in-house movements: Very few would have trace them back to be the old D.J.R and many would have seen them with different eyes. Maybe they just should have done that. For the movement: Look here, it's demounted and fully analyzed... There is a regulator and an incabloc belonging to ETA and the Glucydure balance wheel: The rest is them own stuff. The top plate remember me much of a Girard Perregaux. http://www.thepurists.net/patrons/members/wsw/jr/index.html For me, there is no hype there: ETA will cut it's selling to brands outside Swatch-groupe and at list some brands are making the first step by producing them own movements. Many known brands don't. And still they sell at the same price as J.R.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27th, 2012 11:41 am |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Also, I agree with you Oscar that a Diverscope case with a 2892-2 eta selling at 700$ or so is much more tempting than some of the new models at 5/6000$. They really started high price on those new Diverscopes even the linear power reserve is a cool unusual feature: Everybody agrees on that. Still, there's those dress watch models who are really affordable and since the cases, bracelets and movements are made in-house: It's a great alternative to the ETA deals who can't even claim to have them cases made at home. I bet those Diverscopes will go down in price with the time as well. And why in-house instead of ETA? Well, even the 2892-2 is a fabulous movement, many of us are ready to pay a high premium for a more exclusive movement... That's the difference people pay between a Tudor and a Rolex. Remember the Tudor Pelagos is also selling at 4000+ with a 2824-2 inside. But nobody trashes it because it's holly Rolex little brother and so it becomes untouchable to many. There's no point in arguing that a brand who makes 99% of all it's parts itself should have more merit than another one who does only 50%, specially when they sell around the same price. But if we consider that the cheapest is the best: So my Marathon SAR is winning over the Tudor Black-bay.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27th, 2012 06:07 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I agree will,there is always a double standard when it comes to Rolex,and I do think the in-house JR movement is pretty sweet,but we also need to learn patience in this hobby...as you say,the prices on these Diversopes will come down,and that is what I'm waiting for!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28th, 2012 12:14 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Cool video from the JR manufacture! Like everybody, I was expecting a modern building but it's a mantion http://youtu.be/yOpEjQu5RkU
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28th, 2012 12:25 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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One of the only four enamelers in the world who works on dials is working for JeanRichard. Nice video with Vanessa Lecci speaking french with an Italian accent(English subtitles) http://youtu.be/LbTgrYWwxp8
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