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DM71 3T WIS 
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Hi guys, I received my second Russian watch today, a Poljot mechanical Alarm. It arrived about a week after I received my first Russian, which was a Vostok Europe Gaz-Limo. Well, for those who read "My First Russian Watch_My First impression" topic, as you know, I had to send back the watch because I had received it with scratches on the case and a miss print on the dial. Fortunately for me, I had bought the watch from Russia2all and Craig, took care of my issues right away, as you would expect from any serious company with a good CS. Now I will see what will happened with this one. I was saying in my previous review that I was tired of spending money on shipping back items ordered that arrived defective or damaged, well, it happened again :X! Is it just me or some of you guys are having similar problems? Is it the Watch God telling me to stop buying watches???!!!:shock: The watch is fantastic and I'm really happy I got one, but this one arrived even worst that the Vostok Europe. It was well packed but the whole side of the watch (9 O'clock side) is badly scratched, the bezel has dents and, I have a faulty number 3 again, that is not filled properly!!! coyote2.gif I sent an email to the seller and I'm waiting for a reply. I will take some shots of the damages tonight if I have time after work to show you what I mean. This is incredible...  TBC... |
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apeogre 3T WIS 
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Dang! no bueno. |
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Nabco 3T WIS 
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WOW, that is incredible...that is some horribleluck |
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Upside 3T WIS 
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Man I'm sorry to hear that. I've never heard of such bad luck back to back. I'm knocking on wood I've been very lucky. I wonder if this is any indication of how things are going in the russian watch market in general. Keep your eyes and ears open folks... |
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DM71 3T WIS
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Yep, very bad luck indeed! But I would not say that this is a major problem with Russian watches Upside, I read a lot about Russian watches before I bought one and many members here have a few Russian watches and I never heard of such thing as scratched watch new in the box on defect on the dial. It seems that I'm the one with all the defect ones :P. Ha well, there is worst than that in life and everything would probably end OK so all I need is a bit of patience... By the way, somebody knows where I can buy patience, I think I'm born without it  |
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DM71 3T WIS
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Here are some shots of the watch with damages. Not easy to get a clear image with bad lighting but I think you'll get the idea, see the dot on number 3? Nice watch though, and the alarm is quite loud... After 24h, no news from seller yet...      |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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that's a awesome Russian even with the damage...the case is easily brushed to look like new and the 3 may be like that on all...fortunately Craig stands behind all his watches!....Congrats! yourock.gif |
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DM71 3T WIS
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Thanks Oscar :), you are right about the case, I even thought of having it blasted, like the crowns. Unfortunately for me, the watch was not bought from Craig (russia2all), he didn't have this model...Maybe I should have ask him to try to get one for me  ... Anyway, I got the watch from Yuri Levenberg on eBay and no news yet so I will probably keep it as is. I really like the watch so... |
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Nabco 3T WIS
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Daniel, if that watch was sold as new that's pretty bad, and if it was sold as used those scratches should have been identified. That said, i agree with Oscar, GREAT watch and with a little patience (oh wait, you don't have any....just kidding) you can clean it up nice. On another note...I think you are right, pretty sure if Craig does not have it and it's Russian he can get it for you. |
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DM71 3T WIS
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Nick, the watch was sold like New and Never Worn. I would think that this guy is serious seller though, he's a power seller with more that 30000 sales and 99.6%. He's German so we might have language problems, I will try a second email and give benefice of the doubt, like we say in French... Also, maybe you can help me or somebody else can help me with a detail on the watch (sorry but no pix). I was looking at it again last night and I noticed that the watch case back had a small opening of about 3mm in it. It looks like if it was bent out and some more scratch on the case aligned with this opening. I first thought that it was broken but looking at it closer (it's really small) I'm not sure anymore. Is it possible that this is design to help the ring sound louder? Would it make sense? Is it common on this caliber 2612.1? Why the case is damage where the opening is remain a mystery Then, the watch is water resistant to 5atm (50M/150ft) which is more tap water resistant but wouldn't this opening compromise that? Hummmmm...Daniel |
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JKang 3T WIS 
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Sorry to hear about your watches. Would the seller in question be someone whose name has been batted around on the WatchUSeek forums, often poorly-spoken of with regards to his lack of accountability and poor customer service, sometimes attributed to his difficulties with the English language? Might be worth having a look, and avoiding in future, if it's the same guy. |
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scottran 3T WIS 
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I think the troubles you are having with the watch are due to abuse, not the original manufacture, except for the hole in the #3. Sounds like someone messed around with this watch imo. Hopefully you can get the seller to stand up and make things right. |
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DM71 3T WIS
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JKang, I think you're right. I just did a search in WUS archives and there's a lot said on Yuri (Juri) Levenberg. Looks like this guy wrote a book on Russian Watches too. Unfortunately, the forums are closed right now for site upgrades and I cannot read all the details. I know for a fact that PowerSellers don't like neg.feedback so I have good hope he will get back to me. I will keep you guys posted on how he handles this case so you won't do same mistake i did. Scott, I think so too... Daniel |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Sad to hear about your sorrows, DM71face4.gif. I think it will be some time before I consider those makes. I had similar "make" problems with their SLR cameras long ago and swore never again.coyote2.gif |
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DM71 3T WIS
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Thanks for you compassion Bigrusty ;) ! You know, I honestly think that the problem is not with the brand as much as the QC and the handling of the watch. Yes there is a flaw on the dial but this is something you can also see on well known and way more expensive Swiss watches as well, and I know that for a fact since I have more than one Swiss watch with issues like, lume not put even or not applied precisely or a not aligned chapter ring or bezel... I would say this is not as common but it does happen. With that said, Russian watches, do have a reputation of uneven assembly quality. To me, it all comes down to QC and who inspected the watch before sending it to seller and then to the buyer, which is me. For some people, the problems I have would not be a big deal but for me, it is. I take good care of my timepieces and I like to damage them myself, if you know what i mean:D. Poljot is, supposedly, an Higher end Russian Brand (again, according to what I read) and is usually well reviewed, same for Vostok Europe. So, I cannot say I will never buy another one because I kind of like a lot of their models, but one thing is for sure, I don't think I will ever buy an other one that's not coming from Russia2all. I'm certain that their is other good sellers out there but for me, Craig is the man and I KNOW that if I have a problem, he will take care of it. Daniel |
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mcwright Admin 
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I have purchased both watches and straps from Yuri Levenberg. All the watches arrived in new condition. One was the wrong model, but I just kept it. I received some straps that were the wrong size and I emailed him and he sent me new replacements (after I returned the wrong ones). I used to send my emails to him in english and in german (via a translator on my mac). He did reply except for once when I just asked a question about availability. Some of the straps I bought turned purple. Most were ok. All of the watches were ok. My guess is you received either a serviced watch, a return (that wasn't checked out) or the watch was bulk shipped in poor packaging to the seller (Levenberg). All are possible. As for the hole in the back, I'd have to see it, but that doesn't sound right. The case back can be used as a sounding board for the alarm, but it shouldn't be as you describe. At least I don't think so. Attached is a picture of your models case back taken from ruwatch.com. Keep emailing Levenberg. Attachment: ruwatch.jpg (Downloaded 19 times) Last edited on Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 01:28 pm by mcwright |
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Simon_Leung 3T WIS 
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Man,I feel your pain. If it's in new condition it should have been in mint condition minus the scratches. However, having said that,it appears there seems to be quality controls issues with the way the dials are painted. Maybe perhaps a small batch of watches had this problem. Hope for the best and see what can be worked out. Cheers, Simon |
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DM71 3T WIS
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McWright, you give me hope. I sent an other email this morning, will try to find a way to translate in German... As for the case back, what I think to be a defect can only be seen from the side of the case back. It is really on the edge, it looks like if somebody would have tried to open the case back with a small screwdriver by prying it against the case and then broke the edge of the case back, thinking it would pop out (it's screw down case back), the piece is still there put lift up. I'll try to get a pic of it but it's small. Simon, thanks for your support ! :) |
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mcwright Admin
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Well that sounds more like a customer return. I may have been sold to someone who thought it was a quartz watch (really) and they tried to pop the case to change the battery when the watch wasn't wound. This crap does happen. Then he sends it back and the seller doesn't check it out. |
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DM71 3T WIS
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Well, that's it, it's over. After sending 5 emails in English and German, waiting 4 days, I left a negative Feedback to the seller. I will fix the case and enjoy the watch. This guy as no CS so for sure the last time I will buy from him. Yuri Levenberg from eBay is on my black list and I recommend to avoid this seller. My advise would be, if you want a Russian watch, buy from http://www.russi2all.com and if Craig doesn't have it. Ask him to get it for you, I'm sure he will. Anyway, that's what I will be doing next time... Thanks to everyone again for your help and support :) . Case closed! |
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