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cfoster 3T WIS
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Having been a Daniel Mink fan for many years, I wanted to try his new brand, Renato but, wasn't sure. I finally ordered one and the jury will be out for some time. This is a limited Edition T-Rex #34 of 75. This one is done in black IP with rose gold accents on the dial and .10ct of vs diamonds on the '9". It uses an ETA 2824-2 movement and is WR to 300m. The first thing I noticed was that when the bracelet was plated it was assembled so when links are removed raw steel shows where the links were joined. Otherwise so far I like the look and the lime is fantastic. So, I'll wear it for a few days and decide if I'll buy another. Attachment: T-Rex 3 4of75.jpg (Downloaded 145 times) |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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Foster, I assumed you payed a pretty penny for that watch...I've gotta' wonder why you would except such shoddy plating?? At that price..or any price I would expect more from the manufacture:? Pretty cool looking thoughhand6.gif |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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just an FYI:D Daniel Mink the watch company and reNOtos Daniel Mink are not the same....he is the son aka Dan Minkowicz of the original owner of Daniel Mink Watch Co. but it was sold years ago to the business partners and reNOto is not associated in any way nor in the same class ...there has been a long history of problems with reNOtos finish especially with their bracelets;)...Congrats but as my WIS mentor said to me many years ago and I would like to pass on to you Clyde as you are a good guy"stay away from the made for TV watches"... :D |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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Not my cup of tea at all. This brand is one of the worst and Oscar has it just exactly right. Enough of the TV brands.face4.gif Its a musing you bough into the Daniel Mink inference when Renato clearly has nothing to do with any Swiss maker. |
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jmakaiju 3T WIS 
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I like the aesthetics of the reNOto. It is distinctive and identifiable from the ubiquitous "Dive Watches" that are gushed over ad nauseum. The Swiss ETA movement is a plus. I've been tempted to acquire a reNOto before but have reservations concerning the manufacturing process' location and parts sourcing wishing it were more transparent. I am an owner of of several Invicta Watches which I purchased via ShopNBC TV. Some are "Swiss Made"(that's a laugh!) and some are not. I have not been dissapointed. Compared with other watches in my collection ranging from low to higher end, I find the Invictas to compare quite favorably to a turd. If the author of this post were to have posted on "Watch Freeks" he may have been received more favorably because everyone is stupid there. |
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jmakaiju 3T WIS
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I'm sure that I wrote R E N O T O. Must have been automatically changed. Disturbing jmakaiju wrote: I like the aesthetics of the reNOto. It is distinctive and identifiable from the ubiquitous "Dive Watches" that are gushed over ad nauseum. The Swiss ETA movement is a plus. I've been tempted to acquire a reNOto before but have reservations concerning the manufacturing process' location and parts sourcing wishing it were more transparent. I am an owner of of several Invicta Watches which I purchased via ShopNBC TV. Some are "Swiss Made" and some are not. I have not been dissapointed. Compared with other watches in my collection ranging from low to higher end, I find the Invictas to compare quite favorably. If the author of this post were to have posted on "Watch Geeks" he may have been received more favorably. |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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jmakaiju wrote: If the author of this post were to have posted on "Watch Freeks" he may have been received more favorably. I'm sure that I wrote R E N A T O. Must have been automatically changed. Disturbing. You are correct on both accounts. Disturbing that anyone would give their $$ to the charlatans hawking reNOto.:shock: |
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cfoster 3T WIS
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Trust me guys, I have posted my displeasure with the bracelet finish on watchgeeks and stated that I will not be buying another. I have also been very vocal over there on the new Invicta's with the cheap movements. Can you believe a Reserve collection watch with a cheap ISA movement in it? Last edited on Mon Oct 5th, 2009 08:02 pm by cfoster |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS
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jmakaiju wrote: I like the aesthetics of the reNOto. It is distinctive and identifiable from the ubiquitous "Dive Watches" that are gushed over ad nauseum. The Swiss ETA movement is a plus. I've been tempted to acquire a reNOto before but have reservations concerning the manufacturing process' location and parts sourcing wishing it were more transparent. I am an owner of of several Invicta Watches which I purchased via ShopNBC TV. Some are "Swiss Made" and some are not. I have not been dissapointed. Compared with other watches in my collection ranging from low to higher end, I find the Invictas to compare quite favorably. If the author of this post were to have posted on "Watch Geeks" he may have been received more favorably. Jmak.....your response basically underscores what is trying to be conveyed. ....perhaps a little harshly.... I've been tempted to acquire a reNOto before but have reservations concerning the manufacturing process' location and parts sourcing wishing it were more transparent. Mink, has tryed to capitalize on his family name while keeping the above hidden to the consumer's that buy into the hype spewn by him and the bafoon on ShopNBC. If the author of this post were to have posted on "Watch Freeks" he may have been received more favorably. Of course he would have Jims job depends on it....really a silly comment since I am sure you know the connection:? Back on point.....buy what you like, but don't complain about the quality or questionable manufacture. |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS
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cfoster wrote: Trust me guys, I have posted my displeasure with the bracelet finish on watchgoobers and stated that I will not be buying another. I have also been very vocal over there on the new Invicta's with the cheap movements. Can you believe a Reserve collection watch with a cheap ISA movement in it? Good going Clyde....you should expect way more for your well earned $$$$. Plating is not rocket science...it all has to do with good quality control and it appears they don;t have it. |
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jmakaiju 3T WIS
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Much better to spend $500 plus for a German-esque sounding watch manufactured I don't know where with a Japanese movement.. |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS
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jmakaiju wrote: Much better to spend $500 plus for a German-esque sounding watch manufactured I don't know where with a Japanese movement. Feel free to specify the manufacture; as I am sure we can educate you on where exactly the product is produced and it's origin. Or are you here just to start a flame??? |
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jmakaiju 3T WIS
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No need to trouble yourself. I have found this to be quite instructional and will confine my remarks to praising timepieces on the "approved list". |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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jmakaiju wrote: Much better to spend $500 plus for a German-esque sounding watch manufactured I don't know where with a Japanese movement. it's one thing being a newbie wanting to learn the hobby....completely another being a mis-informed brainwashed newbie who drinks the kool-aid from a forum that is only there to sell you BS and crapola and is owned by Invicta....now what does that tell you?:D |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS
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jmakaiju wrote: No need to trouble yourself. I have found this to be quite instructional and will confine my remarks to praising timepieces on the "approved list". Not a problem...just assumed you would like to have an intellegent discussion on the brands/manufactures you questioned. |
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DM71 3T WIS 
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Interesting to see how a recommendation given with honesty, can turn that way:shock:!!! Some people have very sensitive feelings here... Well, what do I know anyway since I like to spend $500 plus for a German-esque sounding watch manufactured I don't know where with a Japanese movement... Sory, I couldn't resist  Last edited on Mon Oct 5th, 2009 09:01 pm by DM71 |
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scottran 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote: just an FYI:D Daniel Mink the watch company and reNOtos Daniel Mink are not the same....he is the son aka Dan Minkowicz of the original owner of Daniel Mink Watch Co. but it was sold years ago to the business partners and reNOto is not associated in any way nor in the same class ...there has been a long history of problems with reNOtos finish especially with their bracelets;)...Congrats but as my WIS mentor said to me many years ago and I would like to pass on to you Clyde as you are a good guy"stay away from the made for TV watches"... :D Thanks for explaining this Oscar. I always wondered why the Daniel Mink brand seemed to be a respected brand and renoto not. I like the look of the trex but just could never get past the brand(this coming from someone who has many invictas :shock:) I guess the reason I like the trex is it looks alot like an Oceanaut Pacha. BTW, I always wanted to know, which came first? The Pacha or the trex? Seems like some copying went on there? Clyde, If that watch isnt perfect out of the box, send it back. Even all of my black ip Invicta's had a great finish when they arrived and are still looking great. For what you spent demand better. ;) |
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cfoster 3T WIS
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scottran wrote: oagaspar wrote:just an FYI:D Daniel Mink the watch company and reNOtos Daniel Mink are not the same....he is the son aka Dan Minkowicz of the original owner of Daniel Mink Watch Co. but it was sold years ago to the business partners and reNOto is not associated in any way nor in the same class ...there has been a long history of problems with reNOtos finish especially with their bracelets;)...Congrats but as my WIS mentor said to me many years ago and I would like to pass on to you Clyde as you are a good guy"stay away from the made for TV watches"... :D Other than the cheap plating job on the bracelet, I like the watch and for the price, is an OK value. The finish is fine, just done cheaply, though the watch as a whole is quite good quality. It's a keeper but, I won't be buying another. I was unaware that this was the son but, I think his designs do have some merit. I just wish that the product matched the hype that preceded it. |
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nicolasbdive 3T WIS 
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Enjoy your watch Cfoster. It certainly has a striking, unique look and will likely garner positive comments for that reason, and that's something that all WIS can agree on being happy to receive! I appreciate that respectful knowledgeable WIS spoke up here with valuable REAL information that I'm sure many were unaware of. I learned something for sure... |
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jmakaiju 3T WIS
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Attention Site Owner This post has been altered and another was deleted. Feeling a bit disadvantaged here what with the uneven playing field. jmakaiju wrote: I like the aesthetics of the reNOto. It is distinctive and identifiable from the ubiquitous "Dive Watches" that are gushed over ad nauseum. The Swiss ETA movement is a plus. I've been tempted to acquire a reNOto before but have reservations concerning the manufacturing process' location and parts sourcing wishing it were more transparent. I am an owner of of several Invicta Watches which I purchased via ShopNBC TV. Some are "Swiss Made"(that's a laugh!) and some are not. I have not been dissapointed. Compared with other watches in my collection ranging from low to higher end, I find the Invictas to compare quite favorably to a turd. If the author of this post were to have posted on "Watch Freeks" he may have been received more favorably because everyone is stupid there. |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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jmakaiju wrote: Much better to spend $500 plus for a German-esque sounding watch manufactured I don't know where with a Japanese movement.. At least that watch doesn't pretend to be anything it is not. I believe that brand you are inferring has always been straight up about exactly what it is and has a number of devotees who can attest to its quality. If you don't know where it it manufactured then you simply haven't read the dedicated forum. The Renato is the worst in that it leads you to believe your are buying into and exclusive club of ultra luxury watch owners while the reality is that it is not ultra-luxurious or even of superior quality. This is ridiculous. |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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cfoster wrote: I just wish that the product matched the hype that preceded it. Clyde, I think you shouldn't accept sub-par finishing o this watch. You are a stand up guy who realizes I am not attacking you but the brand as it isn't at all what it claims to be and the crappy plating on your watch is proof positive. You have so many sweet watches... why accept this one that isn't right at all? face4.gif |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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jmakaiju wrote: Attention Site Ownerthis actually has made my day! ....you were at a disadvantage when you opened your mouth about Invicta and how that brand compares to other watches in your collection which I am sure it does given the fact you haven't experienced anything better as of yet and hopefully by hanging around you will try other brands of substance,unfortunately you won't be getting any value pays so that might keep you from ever venturing off Slopnbc,which in fact if you know what you are buying still has some pretty good bargains on well known brands....I suggest you compare those watches to more serious watches and then give us your honest opinion....that is once you have been de-programmed from all the BS that is spewed on that forum and on the TV shows by a wannabe WIS whose expertise doesn't go beyond what he is told to say in order to save his job......and believe one thing my friend....if someone were to go on the watchgoobers and start telling the truth about most of the made for TV brands they would be run out on a rail before they could post POS! :D |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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scottran wrote: oagaspar wrote:just an FYI:D Daniel Mink the watch company and reNOtos Daniel Mink are not the same....he is the son aka Dan Minkowicz of the original owner of Daniel Mink Watch Co. but it was sold years ago to the business partners and reNOto is not associated in any way nor in the same class ...there has been a long history of problems with reNOtos finish especially with their bracelets;)...Congrats but as my WIS mentor said to me many years ago and I would like to pass on to you Clyde as you are a good guy"stay away from the made for TV watches"... :D Scott the Pacha came well before the Trex and would be more compared to the Beast which was a name CZ Jim stole from the Orient Beast which was coined on the forums and came out years before reNOto was even in business....I can say owning both the Pacha and unfortunately a Beast I am stuck with although when reNOto 1st came out they were only $100. that the Pachas fit&finsh is much better and the reliabilty and service is mountains above Reanto who when he 1st went into business was answering all his complaints via a blackberry and had no office....ask Tony about a e-mail Danny Mink sent him about half-links....we still get a good laugh over that one....btw no one copied anyone...it was just a off the shelf case that many manufacturers have used and just another little white lie spewed by Jimmy and Dan Mincowicz to try and give the brand and it's owner some sort of existance :D |
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cfoster 3T WIS
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Paxman wrote: cfoster wrote:I just wish that the product matched the hype that preceded it. Pax, Outwardly, the finish is perfect, My complaint is that the bracelet was assembled prior to plating so when links are removed, raw steel can be seen where the links go into each other. To me a cheap shortcut, not in keeping with the hype of hand made quality. |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Clyde, sad to read about your problems on the newbie. But just curious: 1) Why is it called the TRex? Because of the t-shaped bridge? 2) What are the watches dimensions? Is it 44mm? 16mm thick? Looks ok though being black and uncommon.hand6.gif Wear it in good health, amigo. |
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cfoster 3T WIS
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bigrustypig wrote: Clyde, sad to read about your problems on the newbie. But just curious: There really isn't a problem only a disappointment. These are hyped to be hand made and with great attention to detail. I don't think assembling the bracelet and then plating it is quite in keeping with the promises made. The packaging however, is some of the best I have ever seen from anyone. This is the first "big" watch I have bought that wasn't falling off it's pillow and bobbing around in the box when I opened it. The wood box is impressive and designed so the watch stays where it was placed no matter what position the box ends up in. There are also 2 outer boxes. I was very impressed. Size: 50mm X 15mm thick. I have no idea why it's named the T-Rex, except that the T-Rex is one their collection names. Clyde |
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