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Hi 3T,
Here's my newbie, a Seiko SKX399K. This tiny diver (it's about as small as the 007 and 009) is not common at all and I had to wait about a year to get this from the AD.

Vital stats:
movement= the usual 7S26-0020
case= 41mm
case w/ crown= 45mm
thickness= 13.5mm
bezel= 40mm
lug width= 22mm
lug horn tip to lug horn tip= 45mm
spring bar to spring bar= 40mm
crystal diameter= 32mm, standard

Hoping that none of you will Google the answers to this question yet, can you tell me 3 differences on this little diver that makes it uncommon, and different from the usual Seiko diver like the 007/009?

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The entire package

The watch profiles




Case back



Mandatory wrist shot


Lume shot


I snapped this up because this diver is not common at all. Paired with the SKX401K, these 2 little babies make for a smart addition to any Seiko diver collection. I might snap in a Jubilee or an Oyster eventually.

Overall impressions: typical small Seiko diver. Great daily beater, reliable, easy to fix and mod, tested, long-lasting watch for so little money. Also very light and comfy on the wrist with its workhorse 7S26-0020. The only negative, though a little one, is that the lume is not as strong as the other Seiko divers. I'd rate this lume at 9 viz the OM and BM at 10 on lume. I think I won't be able to wear this often because of its small size but I might just store it as a trophy and keeper. Awaiting the 401K.

Answers to my question when the thread develops a little bit more, OK guys?

Thanks for looking.

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I have no clue, but it looks great, I'm a seiko fan for sure these days..CONGRATS Jeff, looks like it's worth the wait??? Now give up the differences

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I don't want to spoil the game cuz I have one of those too

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HA!!! Wait a little bit more, William. You'll be surprised for sure. Look harder, amigo....harder.....

Chris....thanks for keeping the differences under wrapssubtlelaugh.gif

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looks great...can't tell you the answers though,,hurts my head to do riddles this early...crazy.gif

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Congrats Jeff...love this cool and very rare Seiko!!!thumbsup.gif

Enjoy it amigo!!!

Well, my daily post points to one difference, but like Chris (OldeCrow)...I won't play yet either, since I own one of these little guys...although I was only aware of 2 differences...homerthinks.gif

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stew77 wrote:
Congrats Jeff...love this cool and very rare Seiko!!!thumbsup.gif

Enjoy it amigo!!!

Well, my daily post points to one difference, but like Chris (OldeCrow)...I won't play yet either, since I own one of these little guys...although I was only aware of 2 differences...homerthinks.gif


Thanks, amigo. There are actually 6 minute differences and even to the trained eye will be challenging to spot. This is because our brains are wired to the traditional Seiko diver and yet this SKX399K borrows something from the Seiko 5 and the Marine Master.

I know Joe is now scratching his head. No Google yet, guys
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SPILL THE BEANS ALREADYdog smile.gif

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OK, William and 3T. Here goes....

#1. This is probably the only auto Seiko diver with SQUARE indeces. The only other one is probably the just-as-rare SKX401K. The usual auto Seiko diver has ROUND markers. (By the way, ss there a Rolex Sub with square indeces????)

#2. The usual Seiko auto diver has elippzoid markers at 6 and 9. This has rectangles.

#3. The usual Seiko auto diver's indeces' edges are only outlined in the same lume material as the index itself. This one has polished chrome edges...a trait borrowed from the higher end Marine Master lines.

#4. The usual Seiko auto diver's hands, like #3 above, are lume edged....almost the same color as the index itself. This one has polished chrome edges....like the Marine Master line or higher-end kinetic series.

#5. The usual Seiko diver's meatball on the second hand is in front of the second hand. This one's meatball is at the rear, something borrowed from the usual Seiko 5 line.

#6. The 12 o-clock index is different from the usual diver in the sense that the base is narrower.

#7. The usual Seiko auto diver has amazing lume....10/10. This one is about 9/10, on my subjective visual ocular scale.

My sources....observation, AD comments and fishing other forums and Quartzimodo.

You'll be amazed at what info you can get from Google.

Thanks for looking.


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Congrats and enjoy.

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AAAH!! i see it now!!

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Enjoy this new baby amigo! There's a lot of cool Seikos at low prices but they are not made in Japan and until now it's this detail who kept me away from them...
I know, after beeing a Switzerland and Germany snob, I became a Japan snob...
Well it's just my personnal vision...

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subtle indeed, looks good & thanks for sharing , I just learned something new 2day

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bigrustypig wrote: OK, William and 3T. Here goes....

#1. This is probably the only auto Seiko diver with SQUARE indeces. The only other one is probably the just-as-rare SKX401K. The usual auto Seiko diver has ROUND markers. (By the way, ss there a Rolex Sub with square indeces????)
The Seiko SKX173 (targeting the USA market) has the rectangular indices, just not the chrome surrounds.
#2. The usual Seiko auto diver has elippzoid markers at 6 and 9. This has rectangles.
The Seiko SKX173 has rectangles at 6 & 9

#3. The usual Seiko auto diver's indeces' edges are only outlined in the same lume material as the index itself. This one has polished chrome edges...a trait borrowed from the higher end Marine Master lines.
True that!

#4. The usual Seiko auto diver's hands, like #3 above, are lume edged....almost the same color as the index itself. This one has polished chrome edges....like the Marine Master line or higher-end kinetic series.
Maybe I'm not understanding what you are saying here, but they all look like they have chrome edged hands to me?

#5. The usual Seiko diver's meatball on the second hand is in front of the second hand. This one's meatball is at the rear, something borrowed from the usual Seiko 5 line.
Seems like the 399 shares the same 'meatball at the rear' seconds hand as the SKX007, the SKX173 has the meatball at the front though.

#6. The 12 o-clock index is different from the usual diver in the sense that the base is narrower.
SKX173 has the narrower base too.

#7. The usual Seiko auto diver has amazing lume....10/10. This one is about 9/10, on my subjective visual ocular scale.
Yes, I agree with that.

My sources....observation, AD comments and fishing other forums and Quartzimodo.

You'll be amazed at what info you can get from Google.

Thanks for looking.


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Well...I learned a bunch here Jeff! thumbsup.gif

I think your observations are mostly true when comparing the SKX399 to the more common SKX007, but if you compare it to the also more common SKX173 (which was produced with the USA market in mind) I think a few of these points are a little bit off (see my comments in blue above).

No disrespect intended amigo! mini me.gif

Here's a pic of the fairly common SKX173



 

And a Pic of the most common SKX007

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Lools great Jeff. Congrats!! Gotta get me one!
I gave my 007 away, this would make a great replacement:)

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Thanks guys and Chris. No problemo, amigo.
My comparisons were vs the usual 007 and 009 and similar others though and I like your points. I'm now grappling whether to send this for some modding and get the Rally bezel on it, like Exc-Hulk's mod. But I might as well get the 007 for that and keep this little one in the drawer.
William (Sheriff), yes, this 7S26-0020 isn't made in Japan. They're now made in China, Malaysia etc. But I have lots of friends with watches on 7S26 and they're just so reliable and tough....maybe not very accurate but for those prices, well worth the effort. My sister in law in Texas bought a simple Seiko 5 Sports in Asia in 2000 and didn't even know how to care for it. She's raised 5 boys, taken it to the pool, boating, fishing, snorkelling etc etc and to this day the watch is still beating quite accurately. I was amazed with her stories about her watch. So I guess these little babies, underpromise and overdeliver thumbsup.gif

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Congrats on a awesome Seiko Jeff!!!ThumbsUp02.gifThumbsUp02.gif

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bigrustypig wrote: Thanks guys and Chris. No problemo, amigo.
My comparisons were vs the usual 007 and 009 and similar others though and I like your points. I'm now grappling whether to send this for some modding and get the Rally bezel on it, like Exc-Hulk's mod. But I might as well get the 007 for that and keep this little one in the drawer.
William (Sheriff), yes, this 7S26-0020 isn't made in Japan. They're now made in China, Malaysia etc. But I have lots of friends with watches on 7S26 and they're just so reliable and tough....maybe not very accurate but for those prices, well worth the effort. My sister in law in Texas bought a simple Seiko 5 Sports in Asia in 2000 and didn't even know how to care for it. She's raised 5 boys, taken it to the pool, boating, fishing, snorkelling etc etc and to this day the watch is still beating quite accurately. I was amazed with her stories about her watch. So I guess these little babies, underpromise and overdeliver thumbsup.gif


Agree 100% Jeff!!!  God knows you know all these Seiko models inside and out better than I do, and I'm very envious of the fact that you get to stomp around the best world selection of all these great Seikos in your travels.

I absolutely agree...these guys underpromise and overdeliver, and that cannot be said about very many watch models and brands for that matter.

Only my opinion, but if you are going to go for a rally bezel mod, I would definitely pick up a 007 and save your 399 for wearing and 'hanging out in the drawer' if you must, but definitely keep the 399 as is...all IMO! 

 

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bigrustypig wrote: Thanks guys and Chris. No problemo, amigo.
My comparisons were vs the usual 007 and 009 and similar others though and I like your points. I'm now grappling whether to send this for some modding and get the Rally bezel on it, like Exc-Hulk's mod. But I might as well get the 007 for that and keep this little one in the drawer.
William (Sheriff), yes, this 7S26-0020 isn't made in Japan. They're now made in China, Malaysia etc. But I have lots of friends with watches on 7S26 and they're just so reliable and tough....maybe not very accurate but for those prices, well worth the effort. My sister in law in Texas bought a simple Seiko 5 Sports in Asia in 2000 and didn't even know how to care for it. She's raised 5 boys, taken it to the pool, boating, fishing, snorkelling etc etc and to this day the watch is still beating quite accurately. I was amazed with her stories about her watch. So I guess these little babies, underpromise and overdeliver thumbsup.gif


Agree 100% Jeff!!!  God knows you know all these Seiko models inside and out better than I do, and I'm very envious of the fact that you get to stomp around the best world selection of all these great Seikos in your travels.

I absolutely agree...these guys underpromise and overdeliver, and that cannot be said about very many watch models and brands for that matter.

Only my opinion, but if you are going to go for a rally bezel mod, I would definitely pick up a 007 and save your 399 for wearing and 'hanging out in the drawer' if you must, but definitely keep the 399 as is...all IMO! 

 


10-4, Roger that, amigo! Exactly! I'll be sending an 007 stateside next month for some modding to a Rally based on a tip from Exc-Hulk and I'll see how things go. Might take some time though. Will PM you for some advicethumbsup.gif

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I like that, "under-promise over deliver" The only minor complaint I've ever had with my 7s26es is they seem to be poorly adjusted out of the box but all they have ever needed was a couple seconds on the timing machine for some minor adjustment...

Just in case you want to wander through all my lightly modded Seiko's...

http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g248/OldeCrowsCreations/Seiko%20Alba/


And I haven't touched my 399 yet either, still on the rubber strap even!

I thought I might at least do a sapphire without AR just to keep the glass a bit cleaner over time but my favorite mod is plongeur hands I don't know if I will be able to keep them off of it once I actually start playing with it!



the A35 is another with the square markers!






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OldeCrow wrote: I like that, "under-promise over deliver" The only minor complaint I've ever had with my 7s26es is they seem to be poorly adjusted out of the box but all they have ever needed was a couple seconds on the timing machine for some minor adjustment...

Just in case you want to wander through all my lightly modded Seiko's...

http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g248/OldeCrowsCreations/Seiko%20Alba/


And I haven't touched my 399 yet either, still on the rubber strap even!

I thought I might at least do a sapphire without AR just to keep the glass a bit cleaner over time but my favorite mod is plongeur hands I don't know if I will be able to keep them off of it once I actually start playing with it!



the A35 is another with the square markers! 








Very cool Seiko mods you have done there Chris! cool.gifthumbsup.gif

Thanks for posting up the link and sharing.  I do like the plongeur style hands on these Seikos as well...cool stuff!


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