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anders213 3T WIS 
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DIEVAS REAPER - TACTICAL PILOT - LE 50 PIECES WORLDWIDE    Price: $1080 The Dievas Reaper is Made in Germany. Specifications: Swiss Made Dievas/ETA2824-2 automatic movement Dievas 6SteelBlack - Scratch Resistant 42.5mm diameter 45.5mm diameter with crown 11mm thick 53mm lugs to lugs 50m Water resistant Sapphire crystal with anti reflective inside Waterproof Calf leather strap with yellow details Watch is available from 10.Dec.2010. Please contact info@gnomonwatches.com or PM me for ordering information. The watch is limited edition and serial numbered. Please contact us for availability and serial number. Or you can place a order at: Dievas Reaper Order Page And some videos to show the quality of the Dievas Reaper. Sincerely Dievas Watch Company |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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WOW!...the Reaper is amazing Anders!...the yellow lume and black 6steel make for a great combo imo...Congrats on yet another awesome timepiece! |
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stew77 Admin 
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Anders - very cool new piece for your Dievas lineup!!! I'm liking this one quite a bit...and the micro-finish on that Dievas 6SteelBlack treatment looks very high quality (and dare I say "DLC like" in a very good way). Wow! |
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Johnny P Advisor 
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Wow |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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There's many things I find great in the watch...But maybe I would have liked it better with some crown-guards...Look like the crown could hook itself and... Anyway: The case's features about the material seems fabulous  |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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Pretty Slick I like it |
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murphy j 3T WIS 
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Very cool |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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Nice!! Sort of like a bad ass FT!! |
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Halvis 3T WIS 
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All our times have come Here but now they're gone Seasons don't fear the reaper Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain..we can be like they are Come on baby...don't fear the reaper Baby take my hand...don't fear the reaper We'll be able to fly...don't fear the reaper Baby I'm your man... Valentine is done Here but now they're gone Romeo and Juliet Are together in eternity...Romeo and Juliet 40,000 men and women everyday...Like Romeo and Juliet 40,000 men and women everyday...Redefine happiness Another 40,000 coming everyday...We can be like they are Come on baby...don't fear the reaper Baby take my hand...don't fear the reaper We'll be able to fly...don't fear the reaper Baby I'm your man... Love of two is one Here but now they're gone Came the last night of sadness And it was clear she couldn't go on Then the door was open and the wind appeared The candles blew then disappeared The curtains flew then he appeared...saying don't be afraid Come on baby...and she had no fear And she ran to him...then they started to fly They looked backward and said goodby...she had become like they are She had taken his hand...she had become like they are Come on baby...don't fear the reaper Nice! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I believe Anders is trying to keep me in the WIS poor house by continually producing winners like this...another gotta have for sure imo! |
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Johnny P Advisor
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It's not a must have for me, still loving this one 6steel is one tough process, tested in the real world by me. You don't need any of these.   |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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Very sweet!! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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hopefully I will be posting pics by weeks end! |
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stew77 Admin
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oagaspar wrote: hopefully I will be posting pics by weeks end! Oh man!!!...apparently both you and Anders want me in the poor house Oscar!!!! I fear what might happen if I see "real world" pics of the Reaper...  .... Cannot wait to see your pics!!! Last edited on Sun Dec 12th, 2010 09:35 pm by stew77 |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS 
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looks like another quality piece and unique too, just too dark for me though. I bet these will sell out quick! Good job Dievas! Last edited on Sun Dec 12th, 2010 11:16 pm by Jeep99dad |
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azpops 3T WIS 
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Very nice, but if I may ask....Why did you decide on a GMT bezel, since it's not fuctional without a GMT hand....am I correct? Oh, one other question....Was there a reason to not have a screw down crown? Thanks, Lance |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Another great issue, Anders. Fortunately for me, I can drop by Anders' shop on the weekend as I head back to the salt mines. I'll take real world photos and post soonest. |
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Johnny P Advisor
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bigrustypig wrote:Another great issue, Anders That's a good thing I can't go to see Anders I definitely would in the poor house. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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azpops wrote: Very nice, but if I may ask....Why did you decide on a GMT bezel, since it's not fuctional without a GMT hand....am I correct? the 24hr bezel was not intended for this watch but it was too late to stop production once discovered (only 50 pieces). Anders is working on something that will make all WIS happy as a solution.. ....many WIS prefer a 12hr GMT bezel because no hands need to be set in order to change time zones...just a quick adjustment of the bezel... no GMT hand is necessary. ...out of curiosity would there be an advantage to a screw down crown on a 50m rated watch or is it just peace of mind? |
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azpops 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: azpops wrote: Very nice, but if I may ask....Why did you decide on a GMT bezel, since it's not fuctional without a GMT hand....am I correct?
....many WIS prefer a 12hr GMT bezel because no hands need to be set in order to change time zones...just a quick adjustment of the bezel... no GMT hand is necessary. ...out of curiosity would there be an advantage to a screw down crown on a 50m rated watch or is it just peace of mind? Personally, it would be a peace of mind sort of thing since I’m a forgetful kind of guy… For example; I took the dogs to a dog wash (where they provide the wash basin and blow drier and stuff) on Saturday. While scrubbing the dog/s down, it wasn’t till the fist hit or smack (from the latch that’s connected by a cable, that attaches to the dogs collar to keep them in the wash basin) on my Vortex that I remembered that I had it on!!! Anyways, I kept the Vortex on and kept on with the wash! I’d like to add, that the more I wear my Vortex. It give’s the watch the chance to prove it’s self to me in regards to how it handles the bumps and knocks of a daily wear. It’s done so well in fact that it has me grooving or digging on it even more!!!! I’m also usually found living on construction sites that it’s my understanding that a screw down crown also helps to keep debris from entering the watch. That said, I’ve worn (and still have) my Traser Big Date that doesn’t have a screw down crown for several years and it did well. So it could be just a novice’s concern, but the water is definitely one though. Thanks, Lance Last edited on Tue Dec 14th, 2010 10:39 pm by azpops |
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Watchthis 3T WIS
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I don't want to sound negative, but for such a great looking highly functional TACTICAL style watch, why oh why is it only rated 5ATM water resistance?? A watch like this should be able to go the distance---instead you have something that you can't even really go swimming with! There should have been steps taken to make this great watch--and it is a great looking watch--more like 50 ATM rather than just 5. I have to say that's my major disappointment with my Dievas AGS as well. Totally scratchproof case, but I'm afraid to spill a beer on it let alone forget it's there on my wrist and plunge into the water with it.  |
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Johnny P Advisor
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Watchthis wrote:I don't want to sound negative, but for such a great looking highly functional TACTICAL style watch, why oh why is it only rated 5ATM water resistance?? Reason could be it's a pilot watch instead of a diver, I wouldn't spill any beer on my watch I prefer drinking every drop. This watch has been wet plenty of times and even been in the sink without any issues.  Remember it's a pilot watch wasn't design for diving, I would swim with it if I had too. If you want I throw my DIEVAS VOYAGEUR GMT in a glass of water and post photos to prove my point. I would avoid hot tubs and of course diving. I would love to see you dive 500 meters |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Personnaly, I would have prefer that the crown , even it's not screwed in, would come a bit more inside the case or fully against it... A bit more like the Voyageur GMT. This little gap between the crown and the case makes me feel like for exemple, a thread or fabric from cloths could catch the crown anytime and just pull it out. It also looks to me like the crown don't really have it's place there because it pop out of the case instead of beeing one with it. Between the bezel and this, I would say that maybe this watch came out too early... |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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it would seem that the screw down crown and water resistancy in meters that are unreachable by human life have become crutch of many WIS believing that without the 2 a watch could not survive getting wet. ....unfortunately that leaves out a large segment of this hobby that do not have either and would most likely out perform many of the watches made by companies that claim the above whose QC is non existent because in most cases and I do mean cases it is only the watch case that is tested and not the final product and the company owner or rep is no wear near the manufacturing facility to oversee QC. ...water resistancy is not guaranteed to last any amount of time and can be altered in daily use by bumping or dropping your watch.I have a expensive watch in service right now because the crown tube came loose...this happened from just unscrewing the crown everytime I went to wear it and needed to set the time and date...as a WIS many of us have more than 1 watch and something as simple as extensive use of a screw down crown can cause problems....jmho |
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Johnny P Advisor
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oagaspar wrote:it would seem that the screw down crown and water resistancy in meters that are unreachable by human life have become crutch of many WIS believing that without the 2 a watch could not survive getting wet. That's so true, caution with crown that has a strong spring, it puts a lot of pressure on the threads, every time you unscrew, and screw the crown it grind the threads down leading to crown and tube failure. That happen to me once it was repair under warranty. I did notice on the new crown less tension. |
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Johnny P Advisor
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Here are photos watch is totally submerge in water. Not one issue.  |
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Watchthis 3T WIS
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Sitting in a glass or tank of water is nothing like even snorkeling ten feet under or swimming in a surf or getting drenched by waves on a sailboat. As far as whether a watch has a screw down crown is not totally relevant. The Fortis B-42 is also a pilot watch without a screw down crown --they abandoned the original screw down crown due to problems in the older ones--and still have a 200m rating. My point is why take all the trouble to harden the steel and make a "stealth watch" which is supposedly geared for rough treatment and action when the water-resistance is still very much in the minimal range acceptable for anything. |
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Johnny P Advisor
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Watchthis wrote:Sitting in a glass or tank of water is nothing like even snorkeling ten feet under or swimming in a surf or getting drenched by waves on a sailboat. As far as whether a watch has a screw down crown is not totally relevant. The Fortis B-42 is also a pilot watch without a screw down crown --they abandoned the original screw down crown due to problems in the older ones--and still have a 200m rating. My point is why take all the trouble to harden the steel and make a "stealth watch" which is supposedly geared for rough treatment and action when the water-resistance is still very much in the minimal range acceptable for anything. You made the comment " I'm afraid to spill a beer on it let alone forget it's there on my wrist and plunge into the water with it." The watch is rated at 50 meters. If you want deeper buy the Fortis, and dive 200 meters, let me know how that works out for you. |
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Watchthis 3T WIS
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Johnny, Johnny, i don't know why you're getting so wound up (forgive the pun) All I'm saying is that a designated water resistance has nothing to do with how deep one can actually go. Besides that standards dictate that the stamped rating only needs to be sustained for 90 seconds! As I said, my point is that Dievas is charging good money for a high tech piece in all aspects except you can't even safely ride a jet-ski with it! Here is an article from a major watch reseller: Water Resistance Water Resistance. The ability of the case of a watch to resist the intrusion of moisture is called its water resistance. Often times, a watch buyer will think that when he is buying a watch water resistant to 30 meters, he can swim with it since he wont be going deeper than 30 meters in any event. Water resistance ratings of watches are a bit misleading. The water resistance rating of a watch is based on laboratory pressure tests comparable to gently lowering that watch into still water to the certified depth. For example, when a watch is rated water resistant to 30 meters or 3 ATM (3 atmospheres), it means that it can survive being lowered in still water to a depth of 30 meters. The other lesser know part is that, it is only certified to witstand the pressure of 30m, for a period of 90 seconds. It is tested for be resistant to water for a period of 30 minutes at the pressure equivalent to a depth of 1 meter. Why, because the meter value does not reflect actual diving depth, but to air pressure. Diving into a pool or moving your arms in a freestyle motion while swimming creates more pressure than that found in still waters 30m below the surface. For all practical intents and purpose a watch with 30m water resistance should simply be not used in the water. Think of it as more of protection against accidental exposure to water. I would recommend that you do not even let it get hit by a direct flow of water from a household sink. "For a watch to be used safely while swimming, I would recommend one with at least a 100 meter water resistance rating. This is fine for swimming or snorkeling close to the surface, but not for any kind of diving. If you are buying a watch to be used specifically for use with water sports like jet-skiing or diving (without scuba gear) than at least a rating of 200 meters water resistant would be advisable." |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I don't know who wrote that info above Watchthis but it is 1 persons opinion based on? ...The Reaper is a Tactical Pilots watch...chances are if the plane and pilot end up in the water it really doesn't matter much what it is rated at imo... ...as with all the LE watches with a low#count that Anders has built in the past wind up selling out and become much desirable and sought after by those who missed out...they also hold and in some cases increase in value . ...the Reaper obviously is not made for everyone... imo the design is awesome...that along with the black 6Steel...yellow lume and exhibition caseback revealing the custom Dievas rotor was the selling point for me as well as the reputation of Anders past LE models.The Reaper will make a great stable mate for my growing Dievas collection. Wikpedia: Water Resistant 50m: Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, non-snorkeling water related work, and fishing. NOT suitable for diving. |
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Johnny P Advisor
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Watchthis wrote:Johnny, Johnny, i don't know why you're getting so wound up (forgive the pun) All I'm saying is that a designated water resistance has nothing to do with how deep one can actually go. Besides that standards dictate that the stamped rating only needs to be sustained for 90 seconds! I'm not getting wound up sound like you are. I know all of that can't teach an old dog new tricks bro. Have you ever wonder if the watch can handle more like 100 meters and Dievas decided to stamp 50 meters because it's a pilot watch. ( my opinion) A few company do this to be on the safe side because the model wasn't intended for diving or they don't want you to use it for that purpose. Let me help you out the question should be to Dievas is. Dievas when are you building a dive watch with 6steel, eta movement, screw down crown, with at least 500 meters water resistance similar to the Reaper? That wasn't hard, have a good night His prices are fair, try finding a watch with these spec for what he is charging. |
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mcwright Admin 
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It's a Tactical Pilot Watch and not a Tactical Dive Watch. Tactical on this watch infers rugged, shock resistant, scratch resistant and stealth (i.e. black PVD case). Pilot would infer activities other than diving or swimming to me. Now if Dievas had named this model a Tactical Diver and included a rubber dive strap, I would be more concerned with its 50 meter rating. |
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anders213 3T WIS
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Just a quick update of the Reaper on a PVD NATO Strap. This just adds to the overall sinister/tactical looks. Let me explain the rational behind the whole design of the Reaper. The Reaper was conceived initially in November 2009 as a tactical Pilot watch. And as with all Dievas models, we put a twist to the monotonous Pilot design. Now the crown and water resistance questions. First the crown, the crown does sit flush with the case. The closeup pictures might look otherwise. Remember, the stem on each and every watch is calibrated and fine tuned to the smallest micrometer for a flush crown to case fit by our watchmaker. For those who might have missed it. Here is a picture of our watchmaker fine adjusting the stem.  And the question about water resistance. All Dievas watches are tested according to ISO standard AND BEYOND. So if our watch is rated to 50meters, it usually means it passes the 50meters test and beyond. Eg. our Vortex is tested to 500m but it can actually take 600m without any problem. Better to under-promise and over-deliver. That is why we take pride in each and every specifications of our watch. Like what Johnny said, if you want a Dievas 6STEEL or 6STEELBLACK with screwdown crown and 500m water resistant and rubber strap and etc etc. Please sit back and enjoy what we have in store for you in 2011 and 2012. We will have a line of watches in store for you dive and tactical watch connoisseur from now till December 2012. For those sitting on the fence for the Reaper, you got to hurry. We have almost 50% sold. Meanwhile, Merry Christmas to everyone here and a Greater NEW YEAR. I will also like to take this opportunity to say THANK YOU to everyone who have supported Dievas Watch Company over the years. You know who you are. We won't be here manufacturing these fantastic watches without your support.  Sincerely Anders Dievas Watch Company Last edited on Thu Dec 16th, 2010 06:15 am by anders213 |
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edwardschmedward 3T WIS 
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I'm very excited about more 6STEELBLACK watches! |
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MQ9Reaper 3T WIS 
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I'm James Avila with General Atomics Aeronautical Systems. Here is a picture of my Reaper watch with one of my MQ-9 Reaper office posters in the background. Attachment: Reaper Watch.GIF (Downloaded 107 times) |
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ambassadeur 3T WIS
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anders213 wrote:
Are there any Reapers left? /Henrik |
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