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1Ranger 3T WIS
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As I wait for my meds to kick in after having my knee scoped today I said why not to posting a poll on the forum regarding an idea I had for a watch design. I know this idea would not make it this year or maybe even next, heck I may not get any of you all to reply or even get laughed out of the forum. I know the trends and sentiments toward dive watches are BIG, real BIG. Well I'm a big guy and that works for me, but my wife isn't and she likes Benarus watches, but just too darn big for her. So I had an idea and I'll like to ask if anyone else in the forum agrees. With the introduction of the titanium 47mm I would like to ask if you would be interested in a Titanium Mini Moray. This would be a watch in the 35-37mm range. I have no idea if Steve and Ralf would build it, but if enough of us say yes, it would be the first step to getting the idea on to the table for discussion. There are many modes of introduction for such a watch so please weigh in. Good idea, silly idea, waste of forum space, etc... Thank you all in advance for your thoughts, comments and participation Jeff |
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1Ranger 3T WIS
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As creater of the poll I'll put my two cents in and take one without any reservation. I know my wife would wear it without hesitation. Titanium would make it light enough and she can dive with it as well.  |
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stew77 Admin 
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I agree with Oscar's thoughts/questions above (which I don't see now). I think that these considerations are even more critical with a micro-brand than a "big" player watch company, because a micro-brand really needs to guarantee that they can sell the entire run immediately, but who knows. I think that the concept gets even more challenging when you consider most women (I emphasize "most" because there are some, but it is a large minority IMO) do not really get the whole WIS thing and I would say (all in my opinion of course) that most do not consider an automatic timepiece practical for daily or rotational use...I can already hear...'you mean I have to set the time and wind the watch everytime I wear it?', if it is not a regular part of the watch rotation. For many WIS (me included), there is something very engaging and tactile about setting and winding a mechanical timepiece. I can think of a few big name brands that have struggled with the thought of creating a true, womens dive automatic (Doxa Coraline, Nymph). I happen to really like larger timepieces on women (heck, I've got my wife wearing up to 39mm timepieces (quartz)...although she was eyeing up my Anonimo D-Date the other day and actually slipped it on...I kind of liked it on her, but she was concluding that it was just a bit too big. Last edited on Thu Feb 24th, 2011 12:55 am by stew77 |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Sorry Chris...I stated that if OP were a watchmaker would you build 100 watches in a unpopular size that may not sell? ...also rephrase your poll to who would put a $300. deposit (non refundable due to high risk of buyers backing out) on a 35-37mm Ti Moray that may cost @ $600. and I believe you will get a more realistic answer...it's easy to say I'll take one when no money is involved...jmho... ...both my girfriend and 22yr old daughter like 42mm watches and go through my boxes all the time trying on the Big watches...they even ask for a "mans watch" as this has become very popular in movies and TV and women like to be stylish and current in what they wear ...a watch is just another piece of jewelry for most women...at least the ones I know.  |
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jgarnett 3T WIS 
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My wife wears a 37mm white porcelain / diamond studded Chanel watch and loves it and she is Khmer and has a TINY wrist. BTW - it cost me $35 at the market ;-) |
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mart 3T WIS
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sorry my wife like at least 42mm she as45 at the moment..... |
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Joe Nation 3T WIS
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I think either a 35-37mm in stainless, or a 40-42 in stainless or ti would be a better bet. If you're aiming it at women I don't think ti is really necessary (ti is a little unusual and uncommon, as is a smaller women's watch from a micro brand, don't make things more complicated by combining the two). And if it's not aimed specifically at women 40-42mm is more universal in size. Plus, I don't think it has be a mini Moray, why not a totally new design? I love the Moray, but the whole thing will need designing and tooling up for; it's the perfect opportunity for a new design. But in short, yes I probably would buy one. |
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1Ranger 3T WIS
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The only point of using titanium would be its light weight. Every time I show a friend, male or female, one of my dive watches the first thing out of their mouth is, wow that's heavy. It's just a matter of sizing down a great selling and designed watch to a much smaller market. The current models easily serve those who like larger watches. If you are not in that category you have little to no selection. Of course it's all about making money and selling out, but before one would even get to that point it's best to determine the market desire. Thank you for the comments thus far. There are some great points being made. Please keep them coming. Jeff |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS 
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Every time I show a friend, male or female, one of my dive watches the first thing out of their mouth is, wow that's heavy. I have heard this too, but then I notice they are wearing a plastic watch. |
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Nabco 3T WIS 
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I agree with O, my wife has a very small wrist and all of her watches are in the 39 to 44 mm range...if I let her she would be wearing my watches every day....but just like she does not drive my car, she does not wear my watches  I too agree that she would prefer a quartz watch, she also likes Citizen Eco's, you know the "green" thing. maybe a good compromise would be a cool looking Moray like watch with a hi end quartz movement made specifically for the ladies....not to speak for Ralf and Steve but as O said if they were to build 100 watches and we were willing to put up a $300 non-refundable deposit to get a cool watch for our better halves I would bet they would do it and with a quartz movement I would guess the cost could be quite lower then with an auto. |
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1Ranger 3T WIS
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I was thinking 20 to 30 to keep the interest up just on the basis of it being limited. I'd stay away from the lower end movement just because it would put the watch in the lower end category and potential resale at a later date may not be as high. One of the great aspects of these specialized watches is they retain their value. The high end watches are like buying a new car, as soon as you take it out of the box you lost 20-30%. I don't like that and I'd much rather buy second hand because you're getting ripped off because of the name. You don't have that with Benarus watches and this makes it so much easier to fund. I'd stick with it with even a smaller watch. |
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1Ranger 3T WIS
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Steve Laughlin wrote: Every time I show a friend, male or female, one of my dive watches the first thing out of their mouth is, wow that's heavy. My one friend who said this is an Oil Exec and he was wearing a Longiness. His Japanese/Argentinian wife had a ladies Rolex (she's tiny). Money is not much of an issue for them. They both loved the watch, but said no just because of weight. These guys weren't the only one's but they came to mind first. |
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mattnatti 3T WIS 
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it is a good discussion for sure. like stated above it would be difficult for a "micro" brand to do such a thing without taking a good size deposit to help them know they will get a return on their money. even with that said doing a small run would put the cost up as there is so much tooling that would need to be done to make the product. |
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blbarron 3T WIS 
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I voted no, I personally like the weight on larger sized watches & find that 44-45mm is the smallest I can wear these days with 46-48mm being the real sweet spot on my wrist. Even my wife rarely will wear a watch smaller than 38mm now & has several in the 40-42mm range. |
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jgarnett 3T WIS
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Personally I love a large watch on a woman much more than a petite little jewellery style thing. I think the Rolex subs @ 40mm or whatever look great on a chick. It's a real statement. Then again i love a chick in a tux too. Maybe I have a problem...... |
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Axelay2003 3T WIS 
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It is really a personal preference. You have to look at sizing in a broad generalized sense. Which will most likely sell? I, for one, would like a 44-45mm Megalodon, but will it happen? I'm not even going to hold my breathhammer.gif. |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS 
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Interesting disgussion absolutely. My wife, and her friends all have "mens watches", meaning large (from 42mm and up) But what is apperently really hot in these parts of the woods (Norway/Sweden) is SD"hommages", but in PLASTIC!!! And in every insane colour you can think of. There`s a whole lot of crappy cheap brands that make them, and when I tried to buy one (overpirced at $55) for a christmas present, they vere all but sold out all over. So looks like the trend (at least here) is larger watches, but light/plastic. And my wife also has a hard time with the whole "what, it`s not ever accurate? And I have to wind it and adjust it?!" She couldn`t see any reason for why one would by anything other than a quartz with minmal service needs ... |
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1Ranger 3T WIS
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Folks, great opinions. I like the plastic watch idea. What do you think Steve, a Moray - plastic???? I'm sure you can work the specs so it's good to a depth of 1000cm hammer.gif I still think the idea of a small version of the Moray watch would be attractive. Obviously, it comes to sales. No issue there, but there are almost 500 hits on this thread and about 20 ticks on the poll. Something is off or are we all checking this thread out at work, friends house, etc..... I understand the bigger the better and even though I have a few big watches I'm not looking at me for this really (though I do like the idea which is motivating enough to put my $$ down if it was offered). Maybe I just live and work in the wrong area as well for I have yet to find a Miss or Mrs walking around with anything bigger than 38mm in the Pentagon and around Washington DC. Ok, I'm not in the fashion center of the world, but I'm finding it hard to see my wife wearing such a big watch. Actually she won't, so it's not even a question of it. It's a start of NO and nothing more. So how do you adapt a great design into something that could fit a smaller market? How do you allow for the injustice of a miniature (smaller) version of a muscle dive watch? Thanks all for your contributions so far. Please add more opinion that's valid to the topic. |
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1Ranger 3T WIS
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Axelay2003 wrote: I, for one, would like a 44-45mm Megalodon, but will it happen? I'm not even going to hold my breath. I agree, this watch is way to big for me and my wrist is 7.25 inches. Something a touch smaller would be cool, but then again I guess that's why it's the MEGALADON and not a MINILADON That's why I don't and won't own one. Great watch, looks cool, but not for me. |
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1Ranger 3T WIS
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Lastly, I also don't think the idea of a Mini Moray is about knocking out a cheap watch to make some bucks on and keep some folks happy. I don't think this is the business model of Benarus and I doubt they would do such a thing. So far from what I have seen their products are top notch and I would expect top notch on any watch made, even a Mini Moray if it were ever developed. And if I wanted a cheap knock off at a local flea market why would I even be on this forum. It's about quality, precision and a beautiful time piece that will last a life time +. Cheers, Jeff |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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1Ranger wrote: Folks, great opinions. I like the plastic watch idea. Hehe, well ... I was just stating the trend up where I live (NOT what I liked or wanted), and also it seems to be the same in many other parts of europe(not thatI understand why). And NOT IN ANY WAY suggesting a plastic version of ANYTHING!  But then again I guess such a small number of pieces wouldn`t have to consider "trends" anyway, since it would be more of a niche. But, the question/poll was "would you buy one ...?" And my answer was no, based on the idea that this would be for our "better" halfes, and mine likes bigger watches, also since I for one would never wear something so small (jmho). So, no, did not suggest a new poll of anyone wanting to buy a crappy plastic! So, if I wasn`t precise enough I appologise for that, but you got me wrong. Would have a hard time going down as the "guy who suggested the plastic version "  Last edited on Fri Mar 4th, 2011 03:15 am by FnuSnu99 |
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1Ranger 3T WIS
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Just so you know, my suggestion of doing a plastic watch was intended solely as a joke. I honestly could not imagine anyone doing such a thing so please don't take my comments regarding plastic seriously. |
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FnuSnu99 3T WIS
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1Ranger wrote: Just so you know, my suggestion of doing a plastic watch was intended solely as a joke. I honestly could not imagine anyone doing such a thing so please don't take my comments regarding plastic seriously.No worries, I understood that you didn`t mean that seriously, only wanted to rectify myselfe from a obvious misunderstanding that I might have suggested a plastic  So, guess we can close it at NO ONE SUGGESTED A PLASTIC:0) And get back to the original question you posted. Rolf |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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My very lovely wife has tiny wrists and wears a ladies's 2-tone DateJust, her favorite. She has 2 others in 32mm or in medium size but she prefers the small one. So to buy her a bigger one, and in automatic, would be a No-No for me. She told me she only fusses over watches because she knows I'm a WIS. But given a choice, she would prefer a quartzie anyday. Also, from what I know or from the women I know, they really coordinate their watches and jewelry....like a stainless steel or a white gold watch to go with white gold jewelry....that sort of thing. A watch in gray ti would be a challenge for our wives to find matching gray jewelry for and the watch might just end up sitting in the drawer for a long time. Jeff, check out women's watches at the mall. You'll be surprised a vast majority are in quartz (not auto and not manual) for the simple reason, IMHO, most women don't really fuss about watches in the same way they do about other stuff. The watch companies know this. Patek, for example with its 24 line, positions this to women.....and the 24 line is quartz and loaded with bling. |
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