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KMB 3T WIS
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I am new to the high end watch world and am looking for knowledge. I have worn a Seiko 7002-7009 for 20 years. I'm so ignorant I don't even know if that is the proper number for the watch. I hope to learn enough to ensure the next watch I buy is correct for me. I've just learned the the ETA 7750 is used in a bunch of watches and that the prices of these watches vary greatly. I thought the 7750 was a mid-quality movement. So much to learn. Looking forward to it, Kent |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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Kent hello and welcome to 3T. |
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Nabco 3T WIS 
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Hi Kent and welcome to 3T...the 7750 is a great chrono movement and you're right, you will see it in many watches and many different prices. My recommendation would be to do a search on 3T for 7750, there is a great deal of knowledge here and it will help answer your questions or at the very least create more questions for you. |
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ndburley 3T WIS 
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Seiko are a great respected brand so you have some good wrist pieces I bet already. Welcome to 3T! Check this link out... http://www.timetechtalk.com/forum1/20998.html  |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Warm welcome to 3T, Kent The 7750 is a workhorse for chronograph movements. Overall quality depends on the finishing and commitment of various brands to their market pricepoints and brand images. You'll never go wrong with a 7750 starting at the US$1,000 level. There are many devotees to the 7750 and to the chronograph here on 3T and if you ask around, you'll get a lot of solid advice pointing you to the right direction. 20 years on a single (??) Seiko is proof positive of the reliability of the brand. Can you post a pic of your watch? I'm curious as to how it looks and how it's held up on yoru wrist for 20 years.Last edited on Sat Jul 17th, 2010 01:56 am by bigrustypig |
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Graham 3T WIS 
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Welcome on board! There are a good few chrono addicts around here. The Valjoux 7750 movement comes in various grades and price range, so the sky (and your pocket) is the limit. Show us your Seiko! |
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KMB 3T WIS
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Okay, I'm posting pictures. Another instance of my ignorance, I have no idea why you would want to see my watch. It is truly a beater. I sent it back to the repair shop, Coserv, a couple of years ago as it had sat unused for three years. The work was unsatisfactory. Something was wrong internally. Another trip back and it was gaining about an hour and a half a day. A third trip back and it is running beautifully. I don't know what they did, but they certainly did it right. With normal wear, it will gain about 30 seconds a week. I bought this watch because I had broken a series of watches doing all my outdoor stuff and I'm a gear head. The electronic watches aren't at all appealing. It has been subjected to staggering abuse - I fell down a cliff with it on - and has rarely complained. Now, I'm a bit more sedate, but I still abuse the watch and I still like gears and springs. I want something a bit more upscale, something a bit more classy, something with a chronograph/timer, and, if possible, something built for left handed people as I wear the watch on the right wrist. And it has to be tough. Your comments, suggestions, criticisms, or derisive laughter are all welcome. Kent Attachment: DSCN2469.JPG (Downloaded 54 times) |
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KMB 3T WIS
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And a longer view. Attachment: DSCN2463.JPG (Downloaded 55 times) |
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Graham 3T WIS
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I would suggest you consider a Hamilton chrono like my X-wind below. Crown and pushers on the left, with V7750 movement. Very reasonably priced - could be picked up on the secondary market for under $500. Attachment: Hamilton.jpg (Downloaded 49 times) |
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KMB 3T WIS
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Wow, less than 500 bucks. I had resigned myself to spending Oris or Breitling levels of money. Thank you for the tip. It certainly is a good looking piece. I don't understand all the numbers around the bezel, but that's the joy of ignorance, the potential to learn. How do I learn more about the Hamilton? I'll search the T3 site and do the internet searches. Thanks again. |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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I agree with Graham. The Hammie is a very good choice for a chrono line. To answer your query why we were keen on seeing your Seiko? Well, some of us here on 3T are Seiko lovers and whenever we hear of an old Seiko beat-up and fully used by its owner, we get a big kick out of knowing such a tiny watch with so little $ to buy can last so long. By the way, the diver you posted is one of Seikos most venerable workhorses. If I were you' I'd really spend a bit at the spa and bring it up to as great a condition as it can take. After all, a 20 year companion deserves such a treatment  , right? |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS 
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Welcome to 3T Kent! Great community of addicts here  (your wallet will be far lighter in a few months), great guys and very knowledgeable WIS Post often! Graham is the chrono guru! He is right, the X Wind rocks and is a great place to start for a V7750 watch! The Tachymiler is another hami with the valjoux 7750, I own it and love it!  Real cool look and I like the fact you see it less often that the Xwind (personal preference of course!)Here are some pics of mine. It came on the bracelet as you can see on the last pic but I prefer wearing it on a brown leather strap.        Last edited on Sat Jul 17th, 2010 11:04 pm by Jeep99dad |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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I don't know Brice.... did you give him enough pix to view?? Welcome to 3T Kent. Nice to see such a well worn Seiko. |
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KenC Admin 
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First of all, nothing wrong with Seiko...they are a quality manufacturer with watches in all price ranges...I believe I have about 10 in my collection. As to a reasonably priced Val 7750, the Hamilton is a good choice. I currently have the Khaki Field Chrono and had a Khaki Aviation Chrono until I gave it to my grandson for graduation. I might also suggest the Accutron SX-200 Chrono which is very reasonably priced due to the selling off of the model when Citizen bought the company....oh, and welcome to 3T!   |
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Here's some 7750 at great price. Those chronos can regulary be found on the bay for 600-700 buks. As they told, the 7750 is a very strong movement. Welcome to 3T!happy1.gif  Last edited on Sun Jul 18th, 2010 04:15 pm by Hammerfjord |
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KMB 3T WIS
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Oh, I love the Seiko. It truly has been put through all sorts of hades. When I sent it to Coserv the first time, I asked for the watch to be brought up to like-new condition. I was told that there are no crystals available for it. They did get it running better than it ever has - finally. Where can I go to get it refurbished? A new crystal and bezel would be a very nice reward for such good service. The reason I bought the dive watch was not only for diving, but I thought it would be inherently tougher than others. I still want the toughness, but the cliff diving, motorcycle racing, mountain climbing days are over. Nowadays, if it an take the occasional whack on the engine compartment of the car or smack on a tree while riding the horse, it's tough enough. The only thing I question about the x wind is the computational additions. I really like the way the watch looks, but I know nothing of calculating cross winds. The added dials and actuation buttons don't make the watch less reliable or tough, do they? I saw a Belair at a jewelry store that had the 7750 movement and the jewelry store logo on it. I thought $1800 was a little steep for a walking advertisement for the store. I still need to know where to find a second hand, chronometer qualified, x wind. I have found no used ones I would trust. This is a great site. I've been staggering around in a haze of ignorance and now, well, this is great. Thanks, guys. |
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KMB 3T WIS
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I can't see some of your guys' pictures. Is there something I need to load? |
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KMB 3T WIS
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Nevermind. They showed up. I guess it's that patience thing. Great pictures. What movement does that one have? Or that one? What is the case material? What kind of shock absorption do they use? See? The lack of useable knowledge is scary. A local watch repair guy told me the Seiko was just a little coarser than the better movements. He said that the adjustment of the watch couldn't be done as finely as the 7750. I didn't know what a 7750 was but nodded like I did. |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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You will regulary find some X-winds on auction on the Bay: You may be lucky. Also the minimum regular price there is around 800 buks. For my part, I would better go for a 44mm Revue Thommen with slide-rule: It comes in 3 combinations full silver and silver/black. I like the full silver version who has a vintage Breitling look. It's very hard to beat this combo with decorated movement showing back for only 599 buks... The bezel takes beautifully scratches and beating due to his special shape. For those who like the old pilot style made by an original pilot-watch maker http://cgi.ebay.com/Swiss-Made-Revue-Thommen-Pilot-Pro-Slide-Rule-Chrono-/250662318400?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3a5ca37140#ht_6586wt_1137 |
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KMB 3T WIS
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The Revue Thommen looks very nice. All of these look very nice. With any of these watches, how does one determine whether it is chronometer qualified. The ads I've looked at for the Revue, Hamilton and others don't specify that. Can any 7750 or any other movement for that matter, be adjusted to that level. I would imagine that some have better parts than others, even within the same movement - I mean, some 7750's are better than others. A whole new world is opening. This is exciting. |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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KMB wrote: Oh, I love the Seiko. It truly has been put through all sorts of hades. KMB, I think you can fit a sapphire crystal into your Seiko instead of the usual mineral. I know of a guy in HK who can restore yours almost to as good as new. You can also PM me your mailing address and I think I can send you a mineral crystal and a better bezel, beat up, but in good condition for restoration. I can find them here in Asia as I moved around. The crystal and bezel are on the house |
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Graham 3T WIS
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KMB wrote: The Revue Thommen looks very nice. All of these look very nice. With any of these watches, how does one determine whether it is chronometer qualified. The ads I've looked at for the Revue, Hamilton and others don't specify that. Can any 7750 or any other movement for that matter, be adjusted to that level. I would imagine that some have better parts than others, even within the same movement - I mean, some 7750's are better than others.You can do quite a bit of research here and on the net about your queries, but in short: Theoretically any mechanical movement can be sent to COSC (the main certification body in Switzerland) by the manufacturer / watchmaker for certification. All that this means is that the particular movement passed stringent accuracy tests in various positions BEFORE INSTALLATION in a watch. The very next movement on the production line may be installed without being sent for testing, and may very well be just as accurate as the tested one. However, only individually tested movements may be certified as being a "chronometer". Certain movements are known for their inherent accuracy, and the COSC rating makes little or no difference once it has been regulated. A watch with COSC certification will normally cost quite a bit more than a non certified one. Buying a watch with such certification is no guarantee that it still is as accurate as the day it was tested! I can write a lot on this topic, but just do some searches.... a |
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