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Kazimon 3T WIS 
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STRICTLY LIMITED! |
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Devin 3T WIS 
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So how do I order? Looks great! |
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Kazimon 3T WIS
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10 pieces done one for me. 😋 9 left price is 2290euro order possible by email Last edited on Tue Feb 26th, 2013 07:53 am by Kazimon |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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one for me my friend...TY Kazim!...this is by far one of the best bronze available to date inho!! |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote:one for me my friend...TY Kazim!...this is by far one of the best bronze available to date inho!! For 3 Grand it better be  |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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Hmm, I really like this model but I don't specially fancy or want a bronze. And I have eyes on other things for this price as well... So I'll pass. Anyway: Looking good! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Tony Duronio wrote: oagaspar wrote:you apparently have never owned a Kazimon...truly the best micro on the market,and made in very limited quantities with only the best materials...not mass produced!...am told it is nearly sold out! |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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oagaspar wrote:Tony Duronio wrote:oagaspar wrote:you apparently have never owned a Kazimon...truly the best micro on the market,and made in very limited quantities with only the best materials...not mass produced!...am told it is nearly sold out! I agree on the quality and feel but the bronze is pushing up the price and I would have been happy enough with a S.Steel... I would say that this model certainly measure up to other bronzes at 4000$+ who use ETA mvts as well: So if you want a bronze and want something very limited at the same time, it's a great choice. |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote:Tony Duronio wrote:oagaspar wrote:you apparently have never owned a Kazimon...truly the best micro on the market,and made in very limited quantities with only the best materials...not mass produced!...am told it is nearly sold out! No I have not, nor do I have any intention too. |
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Devin 3T WIS
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I am with Tony on this one $3000+ that is way over priced even for a one of one watch. It has a $150 ETA movement! I asked in another thread, what am I missing here? |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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... it is a top eta in the Kazi,not a base that costs $150.,it is also not mass produced which brings down the price of any watch when 100's/1000's are made. ...and on that same note what do you think is inside a Panny selling at $10,000. or Anonimo, Ennebe,Sinn or a dozen other name brands selling at a much higher cost,...really,what makes any watch worth the selling price when it comes down to it?...Anonimo is using Selitta now,as well as many other major brands that can not get an eta..buy what you like,I happen to like Kazimon and am not trying to force it on anyone./... |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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OK, well.... It seems that I wasn't clear enough about the other brands offering a bronze with the same movement at another price. But here we go: Anonimo has retail prices for bronze watches housing a SW200(Sellita 2824-2 clone) between 5000$ and 8000$... Nobody's complaining there. Yes you might find them cheaper but... Really?  |
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stew77 Admin 
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It's a beauty for sure, and will no doubt be extremely well made (as we know that Kazimon produces a top grade micro piece for sure), but I agree regarding the price...at $3K it does not have me reaching for my wallet. All that said, it is an extremely limited run at 10 (not clear to me if this is a limited edition meaning that no more will be produced in the future), and I expect that it will sell out of those 10 in no time flat. In my opinion, Kazim can charge whatever he thinks the market will pay for it...unfortunately, it does not appear to be priced for me. |
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Kazimon 3T WIS
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I understand if somebody is complaining about the price. But realy i dont push nobody to buy and i understand all arguments. Maybe i should not have posted the watch here. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Kazimon wrote: I understand if somebody is complaining about the price.don't think that Kazim...there are far more watch enthusiasts that enjoy your posting here than not,and I always look forward to your posts,and new creations...so please do not let the few speak for the many who are fans of your fine watches! |
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stew77 Admin
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Kazimon wrote: I understand if somebody is complaining about the price. I'm certainly glad you posted the watch here Kazim...it's an absolute beauty and you're entitled to charge whatever you think the market will pay for it IMO! (you are producing some of the absolute best quality micros out there). I expect all 10 to sell out in a flash. (Is this a limited edition or limited run piece with more to be made in the future?). |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Kazim,do you have any pics of the straps yet? |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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There's a bunch of readers on 3T and certainly few of them been pulling the trigger on this limited bronze after reading this post. You are always welcome here Kazim. I'll pass for this bronze but I'm planing to be back for a S.Steel custom like my earlier 1500 co-axial |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Tony Duronio wrote: oagaspar wrote:you would be missing out on an awesome 100% German made watch imho Gumba. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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after reading some of these posts,and those of my Euro watch friends on facebook,I can honestly say there is quite a difference in how Kazimon is viewed...it would seem Kazimon has been bunched in with the other micro brands out there,most of which are Asian watches, by members of certain forums...Kazimon is neither a micro brand,nor an Asian brand,but an independent watchmaker,manufacturing 100% Made in Germany watches in his own facility.I think if everyone saw Kazim for this,then perhaps you would not be comparing his creations,and pricing to those mass produced in China,but to other independent watchmakers using eta movements whose prices make Kazims watches look like a bargain! |
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timesofplenty 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote:Kazimon is neither a micro brand,nor an Asian brand,but an independent watchmaker... Exactly what I was thinking |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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timesofplenty wrote: oagaspar wrote:Scott,I didn't buy my Kazimon 1500-b until I saw the amazing patina you developed on yours,and once I saw that,the $2000. did not seem high to me that it cost at the time,especially after I received the watch...it is still one of my favorites! |
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stew77 Admin
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oagaspar wrote:after reading some of these posts,and those of my Euro watch friends on facebook,I can honestly say there is quite a difference in how Kazimon is viewed...it would seem Kazimon has been bunched in with the other micro brands out there,most of which are Asian watches, by members of certain forums...Kazimon is neither a micro brand,nor an Asian brand,but an independent watchmaker,manufacturing 100% Made in Germany watches in his own facility.I think if everyone saw Kazim for this,then perhaps you would not be comparing his creations,and pricing to those mass produced in China,but to other independent watchmakers using eta movements whose prices make Kazims watches look like a bargain! This is very true Oscar...and I definitely agree with you on all fronts there for sure. I may be getting a bit hung up when comparing this K-Naut II price to the previous offerings from Kazimon (seems like a pretty significant price jump), but at the same time I realize that I will be drooling after every single one of these 10 K-Naut II's!....No doubt about that...Kazim has a unique thing going with his truly independent operations providing us with a 100% German piece that we will never see anywhere else due to his own manufacturing facilities. It's a winner for sure...but I continue to struggle with the Kazimon price jump in my own mind. |
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Khronos 3T WIS 
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It is not a watch I would buy, but purely on the ground that I honestly have not made my mind up where I stand on bronze watches. Bearing in mind Kazim's reputation, I would think that if these are one-off 10 pieces, never to see the light of day again, the price tag is justified and, arguably, would even be justified if it was an ss watch. I think the arguments pro/con have been healthy and respectful - as you would expect in 3T - and I sincerely hope that Kazim will continue to offer his watches through the forum. I have yet to pull the trigger on one of his creations! |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Kazimon is neither a micro brand,nor an Asian brand,but an independent watchmaker,manufacturing 100% Made in Germany watches in his own facility. I couldn't agree more Oscar but I'm surprised that it still have to be mentioned here after those years... July 2010 I was already stating in the arrival thread of my 1500 custom. "For those who are not familiar with Kazimon's new creation, the 1500 is a 100% inhouse "Made in Germany" watch. Master Kenzo supervise the all making from a pure bloc of 316 steel and can proudly say that no component come from oversea's country." I also can recall that it's a detail who been brought up regularly. Since Kazim and me had regular dialogs when cooking this project, I had answers about components provenance: Double dome sapphire crystal , gaskets, dial&hands was already all Made-in-Germany and this watch model except the movement, could present itself 100% German made, as also the first in-house case from the Kazimon workshop. Previous cases was made by Fricker if I recall right. There's a bunch of companies making them own cases who can't tell any of that as they outsource many components. Crystals are often coming from Asia, even on known brands. My 1500 is still among my top favorite watches simply because of it's low run(100 pieces) in S.steel case and it's unique feel. I'm sure on my side, that if a lower price S.steel Nautilus2 would have been presented, people would have reacted differently. |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS
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Khronos wrote:It is not a watch I would buy, but purely on the ground that I honestly have not made my mind up where I stand on bronze watches. Well stated Khronos, not sure why this thread turned in this direction. I am certain that none of the comments here were meant to be a personal attack on Kazim. He is a friend of this Forum. The information shared, gave valuable insight into his watch making and reputation, which is a help to all of us. That said , I take offense to the notion that if someone holds a different opinion, they are in some way an uneducated watch enthusiast and clueless. Buy what you want and enjoy the hobby. |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Tony Duronio wrote:Khronos wrote: Well, I never meant to be offensive or taking people for idiots Tony. I also hope that you didn't feel targeted in any way. Because from my side, I always thought that the regulars of the forum did know that Kazim was holding a high standard on his watches through self making and exclusively German parts. This said, sorry if you misinterpreted my meanings. |
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timesofplenty 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote:Scott,I didn't buy my Kazimon 1500-b until I saw the amazing patina you developed on yours...it is still one of my favorites! You're not the first person (or second, or third...) to say this, maybe I've earned a Kazimon sponsorship! The 1500b is one of my favorites too; always at the back of the line when its time to sell something. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I don't believe anyone aimed anything at you Gumba? ...this thread has been educational imho,and to further educate let's break it down to what started this all,"Price"...the price of the watch is 2290.euros,which to the euro community is a pretty fair price,it is only when broken down to dollars that some seem to believe it is high? Kazim has nothing to do with the conversion rate,nor the suffering dollar to euro situation,and right now the euro is high,so why condemn him for this? In this hobby we need to look at it from a World position,and as far as rising costs for premium watches,well, we have seen them sky rocket over the years.Germany is one of the most expensive Countries to do business in,and the watch business is not exempt...shipping from Germany is expensive,taxes are high,and skilled labor is higher,so expect to pay more. |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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For me it's not the Euro who been strong lately: It's the Dollar who been weak in fact. The Euro is around 7 Nok since the crisis(before it was 8 Nok) but the Dollar been falling lately and lays at around 5 Nok and it's kind of low because regulary it's more like 6-7 Nok for a $. If Kazim would have lived in the US, I would have make a good deal in fact...  |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS
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Guys, I did not take it personal. Just voiced an opinion, and want to keep this place open to various opinions and discussions, in a civil manner. As we have seen much info has been given, and I believe this will be helpful to everyone. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Hammerfjord wrote: For me it's not the Euro who been strong lately: It's the Dollar who been weak in fact.you are right Will...the dollar is very weak,and that is a big problem when buying not only outside the US,but within as well.  |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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oagaspar wrote:Hammerfjord wrote:For me it's not the Euro who been strong lately: It's the Dollar who been weak in fact.you are right Will...the dollar is very weak,and that is a big problem when buying not only outside the US,but within as well. Unlucky for you but lucky for me since the Norwegian Krone been strong and stable lately. That saved me many buks those last months... Last year, when the $ was at the same level like the € is now, you would have pay 2300$ for this watch |
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Kazimon 3T WIS
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                    Last edited on Fri Mar 1st, 2013 04:18 pm by Kazimon |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Looking superb! Thanks for the shots Kazim. If one day I get to be converted to the bronze religion, I might regret this one... |
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stew77 Admin
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Agreed...that is one HOT German beauty Kazim!!!   The case machining and dial is spectacular and I absolutely love the raised crystal too!!!  If not for a weak US dollar... |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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this is a stunning watch,the high level of execution in bronze is outstanding! |
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Kazimon 3T WIS
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Last edited on Sun Mar 3rd, 2013 03:32 am by Kazimon |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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got my tracking#...the NautilusII will be here in the morning,pics and specs to follow! |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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I sent close to a minute studying the details and visual impact of the watch and I can say it's close to perfect. I noticed that even the bezel serrations are uncommon in terms of placement and cut. Kazim does not make very many models in a year and the collectability value of this for a serious WIS is very high. But in my heart and in my mind, it is still the Kazimon DREI that's the one to beat. I adore that creation. |
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pbj204 3T WIS
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I would definitely buy one if I didn't get the bronze 1500 a few months ago. That looks amazing. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I agree Jeff,the Drei is a sweet watch! ...well Fedex dropped the ball and did not get the NautII to me today!...hopefully it will arrive tomorrow,so much for overnight guaranteed!  |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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oagaspar wrote:I agree Jeff,the Drei is a sweet watch! Once Fedex should deliver me some giant squids fishing jigs and I received an extra-small Tshirt with rainbows/"I love rock" print instead: Then I was pissed. Fedex exchanged my package with a little girl one's in Norway by putting wrong the addresses stickers. I bet she didn't like the 1ft squids coz her mother contacted me for exchanging the packages You deserve a J.Bieber Tshirt Oscar |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Hammerfjord wrote: oagaspar wrote:a Beiber t-shirt!  ...they promised me the watch this morning by 10am...we will see,unfortunately work has me leaving by then,so I may not be there when it arrives if it is late! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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pre-dusk quickie...more pics in the morning... Attachment: 028.JPG (Downloaded 62 times) |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Since you have it now, maybe you can post a serial of gun-shooting here: Please avoid to wear the J.B tshirt on the pics |
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timesofplenty 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote:pre-dusk quickie...more pics in the morning... BIG congrats, very nice!  |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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timesofplenty wrote:oagaspar wrote: +1! Shoot away buddy: Great start! |
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Nabco 3T WIS 
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Awesome Oscar...congrats |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote:pre-dusk quickie...more pics in the morning... Most superbly a stunner. True art on the wrist. Big Congrats, Oscar. |
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IanM 3T WIS 
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I tend to shy away from discussions of price on any watch, let alone something as rare and beautiful as this bronzo K-Naut II. In context, some people are paying from 4k (lightly used, apparently, ex dealer stock) to more than 7k for a watch like the Omega Z-33. I happen to love the Z-33 but for an SS retro-cased ana-digi with a good brand (that needs to have the rubber strap replaced by something much more substantial), that one is just a bit off the radar at present and at those prices. If I can focus on the K-Naut II for a moment - Oscar - I don't know why, but your wristies highlight every one of your watches to the max. Often I wait for your "outdoors skyward" shots to show me the watch in all of its true glory rather than relying on the professional shots of the manufacturers taken inside under special lighting. This new arrival of yours is bloody magnificent, appears perfectly executed with fantastic attention to detail, and is absolutely worth what you are willing to pay for it. IMHO one of the most beautiful looking, perfectly detailed bronze watches ever released from captivity. Kazim has always, it seems to me, separated himself from lesser brands by holding true to his word, and delivering something special every time. I do not own any of his watches, yet. But I am off to buy a lottery ticket... |
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stew77 Admin
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IanM wrote: This new arrival of yours is bloody magnificent, appears perfectly executed with fantastic attention to detail, and is absolutely worth what you are willing to pay for it. A real stunner Oscar!!! Ian's comments above really hit the nail on the head IMO. Kazim continues to produce extremely unique and well executed pieces that separate Kazimon pieces from the crowd.............delivering something very special every time for sure. (Great post Ian). |
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deerworrier 3T WIS 
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stunning watch and the last one is on its way to New Zealand |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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TY Guys for the kind words,The K NautII is a fantastic timepiece! ...Congrats deerworrier on snagging the last NautII...you will be very happy my friend ! |
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deerworrier 3T WIS
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just paid and awaiting confirmation of tracking, its going to be a long week. very happy i stumbled across this site. now i need to decide which ones must fall to make way for the great Kazi |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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deerworrier wrote: just paid and awaiting confirmation of tracking, its going to be a long week. very happy i stumbled across this site. now i need to decide which ones must fall to make way for the great KaziKazim ships quick,and the wait will be well worth it my friend! Attachment: 052.JPG (Downloaded 57 times) |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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a picture is worth a 1000 words...the Nautilus II is simply stunning!     |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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It seems as well executed as it can get: Beautiful watch |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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deerworrier wrote:just paid and awaiting confirmation of tracking, its going to be a long week. very happy i stumbled across this site. now i need to decide which ones must fall to make way for the great Kazi You'll be very happy here, mate |
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pbj204 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote:a picture is worth a 1000 words...the Nautilus II is simply stunning! Looks great on that strap but I would highly recommend Timesofplenty. The reddish brown strap that he made me looks amazing with the red highlights on the dial. It really is the perfect color for it.    |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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I agree there: This dark maroon fits well to the bronze with patina... |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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pbj204 wrote: oagaspar wrote:beautiful strap...I have 6 from Scott,including a reddish-brown ammo, he is making me another strap as we speak...this is my favorite combo! Attachment: 08 kaz1500!.jpg (Downloaded 83 times) |
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curious 3T WIS
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Looks amazing. What are the specs? Bronze composition, weight, lug width? |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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curious wrote:Looks amazing. Kazim used the German RG7 based on DIN EN 1982 for the 1500-Kazimon model. http://www.timetechtalk.com/forum36/20562.html |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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curious wrote: Looks amazing.these are long sold out(1500-b),as is the new NautilusII in bronze... if you take the time to look through the threads in the Kazimon forum all your questions will be answered. |
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