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 Posted: Mon Apr 18th, 2011 06:38 pm
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Paxman wrote:
Wow Mike, that's not typical mall fare in these parts. I have had it with Winter (snowing at the moment,) may be it is time to head South West.

Bring a wad of $$$$ if you visit the some of the stores. Especially in the Scottsdale Fashion Square Mall. Omega has a new company watch store there with a greeter/guard outside (a bit of turnoff for me).

ED Marshall Jewelers, Cigar King, and Estate Watch carry everything from Ball to Zeno. Issac Jewelers recently closed one of their stores (expanded at the wrong time). They sell BIG watches, many with lots of bling. Estate watch deals in second hand watches and is expanding to a larger location in old town Scottsdale.

http://www.edmarshalljewelers.com/watches/

http://www.cigarking.com/WATCHES-MORE

http://watchlink.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1&osCsid=6ce03a217f3c8cd407ec18c2a2367854

Oliver Smith Jewelers and Hamra Jewelers are mostly high end.

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mcwright wrote: It all depends on where you live or shop. In Phoenix/Scottsdale there is the Scottsdale Fashion Square Mall with the following Jewelery stores:

Tourneau
Mont Blanc
Ben Bridge Jeweler
Omega Store
Tiffany
Bulgari
Cartier

Within a 30 minute drive you can also visit various other stores in strip malls such as:

ED Marshall Jewelers
Cigar King (yes they sell lots of great watches)
Issac Jewelers
Towne Jewelers
Oliver Smith Jewelers
Hamra Jewelers
Estate Watch & Jewelery

All of the above locations carry lots of mid to high end watches. This is by no means a complete list either.

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You r correct but snobsdale malls is not your typical mallsubtlelaugh.gif, & I forgot those stores which I frequent monthly, also Oliver smith is where I purchase all my Panerai stuff, great people in all these stores you mentioned & I spaced them all out in my og post....

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There is a Tag store in the outlet mall, of all things, here in the suburbs of Chicago.  They have a few interesting pieces, including a Monaco or two.  Of particular interest is that they also carry Zenith, since the parent company is the same. 

Even the outlets struggle to match internet pricing I've found.

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Nordstrom wrote:
There is a Tag store in the outlet mall, of all things, here in the suburbs of Chicago.  They have a few interesting pieces, including a Monaco or two.  Of particular interest is that they also carry Zenith, since the parent company is the same. 

Even the outlets struggle to match internet pricing I've found.


True. A retailer used to have to worry about stores in his/her local area. Then it became a bigger playing field with mail order sales, chain stores, malls, etc. Now, the Internet has changed everything.

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for the most part many of the Mall jewelers aren't geared for the watch trade carrying mostly Seiko,Movado and Bulova, but there are a couple shopping Malls in the greater Cleveland area that have great jewelers,that carry awesome watches, like Legacy Village just outside of Cleveland, that hosts Picciones Jewelers, they carry some of the highest end brands available...it's a treat to just look around inside...here is an example of what they carry and their website...click on the brand names and it will take to you what they carry...

http://www.picciones.com/

Alpina
Bell and Ross
Bovet
Breitling
Christophe Claret
DeWitt
Ernst Benz
Franck Muller
Graham
Harry Winston
Oris
U-Boat
Ulysse Nardin
Pre-Owned
Specials

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It is intersting to hear there are no good watch shops in the US at the malls nowadays. Here in Singapore all the good watch shops are in the malls. Have bought most of the watches here in Singapore in Malls. In Hong Kong, I never buy in malls though. When I have looked in Europe, most of the good watch shops don't seem to be in malls either.

I guess this just refelects the local cultures. At least in S.E.Asia Malls seem to be more prestigeous and high end in image I suppose, so the more luxury items tend to be there.

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Yeah I’m with mcwright in regards to Scottsdale, AZ..

However is there a difference between a mall you're talking about and the Galleria or Caesar’s shopping plaza or several of the Hotel Casino shopping plazas in Vegas?  Because IMO Vegas has got a lot of watches to look at or spend your bucks on.  Well, so long as you stay off the tables and or if you get lucky!

It's been a lot of years, but Ala Moana Shopping Center had a Tag Store back in the 80's.

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oagaspar wrote: for the most part many of the Mall jewelers aren't geared for the watch trade carrying mostly Seiko,Movado and Bulova, but there are a couple shopping Malls in the greater Cleveland area that have great jewelers,that carry awesome watches, like Legacy Village just outside of Cleveland, that hosts Picciones Jewelers, they carry some of the highest end brands available...it's a treat to just look around inside...here is an example of what they carry and their website...click on the brand names and it will take to you what they carry...

http://www.picciones.com/

Alpina
Bell and Ross
Bovet
Breitling
Christophe Claret
DeWitt
Ernst Benz
Franck Muller
Graham
Harry Winston
Oris
U-Boat
Ulysse Nardin
Pre-Owned
Specials


and right across the street in the mall is MANN they have

rolex

panerai

jlc

bvlgari

victorinox

ball-one of their newest brands...and they always have an xlume for me to play with ;)

and more im probably forgetting.  they were more than willing to deal on most of the watches...they started at a standard 20% off retail. 

Last edited on Thu Apr 21st, 2011 05:03 am by elemental

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Yea guess it would depend on the area your in.

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elemental wrote: oagaspar wrote: for the most part many of the Mall jewelers aren't geared for the watch trade carrying mostly Seiko,Movado and Bulova, but there are a couple shopping Malls in the greater Cleveland area that have great jewelers,that carry awesome watches, like Legacy Village just outside of Cleveland, that hosts Picciones Jewelers, they carry some of the highest end brands available...it's a treat to just look around inside...here is an example of what they carry and their website...click on the brand names and it will take to you what they carry...

http://www.picciones.com/

Alpina
Bell and Ross
Bovet
Breitling
Christophe Claret
DeWitt
Ernst Benz
Franck Muller
Graham
Harry Winston
Oris
U-Boat
Ulysse Nardin
Pre-Owned
Specials


and right across the street in the mall is MANN they have

rolex

panerai

jlc

bvlgari

victorinox

ball-one of their newest brands...and they always have an xlume for me to play with ;)

and more im probably forgetting.  they were more than willing to deal on most of the watches...they started at a standard 20% off retail. 
forgot all about Mann Jewelers...they have several stores and offer some nice watches...Henry B Ball in Chapel Hill Mall/Akron carry the same brandsThumbsUp02.gif

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From my view, it depends upon one's definition of a mall. Well, here in hot and humid Asia where I do some job-related traveling, the best watches and widest watch selections are at the malls and these malls are humongous and gargantuan. Everything is at the malls: restos, DIYs, consumer retail, car dealerships, galleries, dentists, shooting ranges, spas and everything else you can imagine...and then some. Of the 10 biggest malls in the world in 2009, I think 7 or 8 are in Asia with the Top 2 in China, 4 in the Philippines, 2 in the US and the other 2....well, I forget.

Depending on a mall's location and its prime target market (A, B, C), one can almost make a bet as to what type of watch stores exist inside. Almost always there are 2 dominant luxury watch retailers inside with a very good range of brands to choose from. Name it, they carry it. If not, walk over to the other competitor, and you'll find it. And always you'll have the usual sprinkling of lower-end retailers that carry the usual Seikos/Citizens as well as other cheaper brands you and I already know.

In general, the sales staff at lower end watch stores at malls in Asia can tell an expensive piece on the wrist through a mere glance and usually there is a designated "hitter" or the most senior sales staff that will attend to you if you walk in with a major piece on your wrist. Check the staff's eye movements and covert signals and you'll know what I mean. I am sure most of you have noticed that.

It is rather risky to own a free standing, high end or luxury end (there's a diff) shop away from malls because of 1)a limited market of buyers walking around and 2)security concerns, as you can imagine.

Usually, if I'm on the hunt for a Seiko, I check at the malls first and then when I see the unit and know its best selling price as well as features, I move on OUTSIDE the malls to the other, much, much older ADs that have stores in a much older part of town and score the same thing...for much less. Some Seiko ADs have their much older store in an older part of town (where all the lower end watch stores exist side by side)and open their slightly higher-end branch under a different name at the malls.

Some of the highest end hotels (5, 6 and 7 STAR rated) also house the more expensive, harder to find boutique brands like Harry Winston, knowing that the super rich hardly shop at malls but chill and play at these hotels. I know of at least 3 countries in Asia where the malls go to the customers. In these cases, the manager of the luxury watch store or his most senior sales rep makes an appointment with the target buyer at his/her office or his/her home and then a selection of watches is shown. The deal is the concluded outside the mall. The same ploy is done for luxury ladies' bags and purses and even jewelry.

I've never experienced a sales rep making condescending remarks on the watch I have on my wrist but once on a trip to Shanghai, a walking salesman with a big, black trenchcoat approached me on the street and pointed to the Pam Sub on my wrist and in broken English told me "time to change your fake Panerai" and in one motion flashed about 40 different fakes pinned to the insides of his coat. I had the biggest laugh of my life until he realized his mistake and offered a quick and sincere apology (LOL)

So I guess high end and luxury watch brands at malls will always cater to a wide spectrum of watch buyers but I think their numbers will drop with the popularity of the internet but there will always be a niche of buyers that need to hold, feel and touch a watch before they slap down their credit cards on the counter.







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Last edited on Fri Apr 22nd, 2011 01:00 am by bigrustypig

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