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| Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2007 08:36 pm |
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Danny S 3T WIS 
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Ocean7 a new manufacturer, has been building some nice divers at attractive prices. The newest idea "on the drawing board" is an updated rendition of the Omega Seamaster 600 "Plongeur Professional", the PloProf.   Interest is being gauged by commitments to a pre-order list. So if you've been hoping for an affordable PloProf alternative as much as I have.. you can make it happen! hand6.gif Last edited on Tue Aug 14th, 2007 10:11 pm by Danny S |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2007 08:43 pm |
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srh_pres 3T WIS 
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I see we're both in for that one Dan... hand6.gif Mitch indicated this would have a COSC SW200 movement, availability sometime next year. :cool:
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2007 08:54 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Sorry all I see is a "Replica" not a "Homage"....absolutely no imagination watch company imho...not one O7 to date looks like an original design:(...and let's see a SW200 at eta prices to boot:D:P...bitch...rant ...moan...and I still want to see a O7 in personhand6.gif
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2007 10:23 pm |
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Danny S 3T WIS
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Not original at all, can't argue with ya there! OTOH, I'm gonna applaud anyone brave enough to stand toe-to-toe with the Swatch group and attempt to deliver a watch that people want. (..it's by no means a sure thing yet) Given the number of Submariner clones out there it's surprising no one's done this one sooner! 
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2007 10:28 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I agree Danny....I'm just waiting to see Omega/Swatch slam the door on this one...it is just too close on infringement:D:shock:
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15th, 2007 01:34 am |
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Scuba Steve 3T WIS 
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I see this watch as a true Homage. While other Ocean7 watches may resemble other watches this is mainly due to using off the shelf cases. I don't consider those models homage or clones but rather watches sporting a sub-contractors case. This watch will have the cases specifically made for this model. There is going to be enough difference in this model that I personally do not feel there will be any infringement. One of the most surprising things I have seen following this watches development is the support from actual Ploprof owners. I really felt there would be an outcry from the original owners but so far there has been none that I have seen. I am sure some will pop up but so far there have been quite a few original owners that have enthusiastically voiced their support and commitment to buy. I think most of this enthusiasm revolves around their personal knowledge of the quality product Mitch puts out and his revolutionary approach to let the buyers design the watches through their forum. I have owned 3 watches from this company and all were quality products. One watch, the LM-1 LE will never leave my possession. It is my overall favorite watch. If the LM-3 would of used C3 lume I might of said the same about it as well. The G-1 GMT is a fine watch but I rarely wore it so I sold it recently after I traded for a MarcelloC GMT. Oscar, I could send you my LM-3 to handle and try out if you wanted. Sorry, I am not going to chance sending my LM-1 and it getting lost in transit as it can't be replaced. I do believe you own an Enzo EMV or V001 though and they are basically the same watch. I believe you are a fan of Enzo's and Mitch is just as much a stand up guy and IMHO follows the same vision for quality Enzo does. He is also right there available every day and practices great customer service. Last edited on Wed Aug 15th, 2007 04:38 am by Scuba Steve |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15th, 2007 04:27 am |
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IanM 3T WIS 
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3Ters, I am an EX Ploprof 600 owner and my point of view is probably less than needed here, but... I lend my support to the Ocean 7 people and to those buyers who want to bring this good looking lump of metal into their lives. I do think that Omega will be peeved. But on the other hand, if the watch is affordable (and what do we call affordable these days, under say $2500USD, under $1000, can we get one for $500 that is truly a 600m watch?) then many more people can get the "look" if not the original watch. It is not like the company is trying to pass of their watch as "the" Ploprof - it is just an alternative from another watchmaker. With Ploprofs going from 2500 to 5000 to 7000 and now more like 10 to over 15000 USD for a minter - how many can ever enjoy owning something like the original? I felt like I had to "cash out" of the Ploprof experience at the top of that price range, because the watch I bought for a few hundred dollars in the 1970's was now worth so much, that it was starting to lose its special appeal - I knew it was different, but now so many have tried to demand them that the supply has dried up. What is the point of having a minter that you can't wear? It is like having a Ferrari and no keys! My only hope is that if Ocean 7 go ahead and make the "homage", then the quality of the watch should make it a match for the original - or maybe even better. The original stainless casing was notoriously easy to dent (no - not scratch - actually dent, and in particular the corners top and bottom outside the screw-down crown). Maybe the Ocean 7 model would be much nicer with a beadblasted finish like I see on so many of the great watches on this site. But please Ocean 7 - make the price reasonable and give the consumer some real value for the money we spend. If they do all that - I would buy one. Just my two cents... IanM
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15th, 2007 04:38 am |
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Scuba Steve 3T WIS
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Ian, your opinion is valued and it is good to hear from another PloProf owner (be it current or former). I am in on this one. Price wise, quoting Mitch, the owner of Ocean7 from their forum: "I just received the preliminary quotation. Using these numbers, the watch will sell for $879, for the version with a sapphire bezel top. That includes an extra bezel and associated hardware. If we don't use the sapphire top and go with a plain acrylic bezel, the cost will decrease by around $75-$100, still including an extra bezel". Last edited on Wed Aug 15th, 2007 04:40 am by Scuba Steve |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15th, 2007 05:27 am |
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IanM 3T WIS
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Hi Scuba Steve The price seems right, and the style is still under review. This could be one of the best and most interesting bargains we have seen in a long time! Thanks for letting me rant... IanM
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15th, 2007 12:07 pm |
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steve6387 3T WIS 
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I'd be surprized if Omega/Swatch didn't push back on this project. But we'll see soon enough, I suppose. If I were Mitch, I'd get a meeting with the right person over at Omega and explain the goal/idea to try to get them onboard with the idea of a "homage." I'd do this after consulting with my attorneys so I have some idea of what options I'd have if they react poorly. As far as the watch itself. I applaud the effort, but I've never really understood the attraction of this watch and won't be in line to get one. The legacy and heritage are there, I guess. But the attraction just escapes me. For me, it's like The Greatful Dead and Phish. Massive followings, so there has to be something there.... but I don't get it.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15th, 2007 12:26 pm |
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rare m5 3T WIS
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Here's a dumb question.. what's the functionality of the red cap? Last edited on Wed Aug 15th, 2007 12:27 pm by rare m5 |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15th, 2007 12:34 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I love this forum and not just because I am biased:D Both Steve's and Ian your input has been spot on enlightening to meand exactly the responses I was looking for in stirring my own pot:P Steve I would love to see the LM-3 and would really like to own one more so!hand6.gif I am a fan of Enzo's and I know the case/bracelet well and hear the dial on the LM-3 is Awesome....I applaud Mitch for his fortitude and have very nice responses from him via e-mail...he is one of the good guys imho and he answers questions head on and doesn't try to avoid telling the truth..I have much respect for him yourock.gif If the O7 Ploprof sells for the estimated price I will try to get one as I did with the LM-1 and LM-3 unfortunately those loyal to the O7 forum get 1st dibs and the initial discount which I can see in some way as being fair ....but we have Berg/Enzo/Marc IW/Ted UTTrading here at 3T and everyone gets 1st dibs/discounts just for being a member....even those who have never posted but read the forum daily do.... which I can whole heartedly agree that not everyone has time to post as I rarely have time to post anywhere else but here but read many watch forums daily:) So my question is why aren't all members of WUS given the same courtesy...O7 is a fora within the WUS community of fora watch2.gifAs far as the members at the O7 fora's input on design that is a fine line imo as Mitch provides the design that is used beforehand from what I have seen and the members input may be as far as aestethetics or add-ons they would like to see...if I am wrong please correct me....Berg/Enzo have offered to do a full forum design here at 3T presenting cases/hands etc. that can be used and it will happen soon but should we cut out all non participating/posting members?:?
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