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| Posted: Mon Mar 23rd, 2009 10:04 am |
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e.avery 3T WIS 
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This is the choice that I made and why. I could not find one pack that would fit all situations so I broke my needs down and purchased 2 packs that fill my needs. The first is a Kelty Super Tioga which is a large external frame pack that has a proven track record. It is a good value at the less than $150 price point shipped to you. The second is an internal framed pack the Kelty Falcon 2850. This pack will be a good option for the Military and the civilian customers that need a very versatile pack that has the expandability through the Molle system. This is not a cheep pack, but offers a lot for its size. I wish I could find the receipt, but it was one of those times I through it in my pocket and tossed it in the trash. I chose Kelty from experience. My wife carried a Kelty pack for 18 years and it is still in perfect shape. She is much better at listeneing than I am, and got the message to limit the amount of dirt that you get on fabrics during wilderness survival training, but that is another story. My North Face pack that was made in the U.S. did not fair quite as well.   Her 18 year old pack that was made before the common use of polymer buckles and fasteners. The metal fastener on the waist belt is a throw back to a very different time for sure.  
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| Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 08:19 pm |
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JCrad 3T WIS
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My son has an external frame Jansport that has several broken cotter pin connectors. Other than that it is fine. I'm borrowing a friend's REI internal frame for our trip to Philmont Scout Ranch in June. Can you recommend a good lightweight sleeping bag that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Seems external frames are falling out of fashion, do you agree?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 10:12 am |
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zippofan 3T WIS 
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You are going to Philmont?! hand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gif I am jealous :) We were just talking about packs last night in preparation for all of our camping/hiking trips this summer with the Scouts. I bought cheapos for my older son and I awhile back, (which of course didn't hold up) and now I need to get another for my younger son who is crossing over from Cubs this year. I am going to look a little closer at Kelty. I like that Falcon. Cheers, Griff
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 10:53 am |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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This one from SierraDesigns wold be a good one to have for 40 Deg. F. I believe it is still $80. I got some Kelty bags for around $50 from Sierra Trading Post or Campmore I believe. They are more comfortable than my down wonder bag from Marmont. The synthetic insulation is nice to lay on since I have gotten older. http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/319,75294_Sierra-Designs-45-F-Shavano-Sleeping-Bag-Down-.html Get on Sierra Trading Posts mailing list they have great discounts. I will post links for discounts when I get them on this thread. The Framed Packs take an additional set of skills and tools to manufacture, and peoples tasts have changed.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 11:03 am |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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This is the Kelty that I got for everyone, not light but will keep you warm even when wet. http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___41619
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 06:47 pm |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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This is all I have now from Sierra Trading Post
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2009 06:35 pm |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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It is late and my computer in the States is acting up, but here it goes. 
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2009 09:33 pm |
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KenC Admin 
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Since 1969, my idea of camping is an Embassy Suites with no room service after mid-night...roughing it is a Holiday Inn with vending machines!!! 
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2009 10:23 pm |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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KenC wrote: Since 1969, my idea of camping is an Embassy Suites with no room service after mid-night...roughing it is a Holiday Inn with vending machines!!! LOL :D with me being in the shape I'm in now that will be it for me from now on too Ken. :) And I use to love being in the out doors. But your way can be fun too. But I need more than vending machines. Give me a good cafe or fast food place at least. :cool:
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2009 05:26 pm |
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murphy j 3T WIS 
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Skipdawg wrote: Give me a good cafe or fast food place at least. :cool: I was thinking hotel bar myself:D.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2009 06:58 pm |
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Rhino-Ranch Guest
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Kelty Falcon looks real nice... I like the pockets on the waist belt, good for ammo, handgun and granola bars. Take a look at OSPREY, and Pacific Outdoors Churchcrist. Lately, I am thinking of building a pack with a roll-top waterproof bag, 'cause there are plenty of times, that I've got to swim or ford a river or stream. Jim Montana, USA
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2009 07:17 pm |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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The pockets on the Falcon are Maxpedition and so is the pocket on the back. Had to ford allot of rivers in South America back in the day. It was fun. SAS four man teams are something you could look up and see the methods they use. I have no idea if you can find that type of info on the web, but it is worth a shot. The team consists of 2 snipers and 2 spotters pulling 2 shifts for extended recon.
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