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| The camping and backpacking season is starting. | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 09:43 am |
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Ablejack 3T WIS 
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As an Appalachian Trail thruhiker I opt for much lighter equipment. I currently carry a small Granite Gear or a Gregory G series. Both of these packs weigh in at less than three pounds. A base-loaded pack (no food or water) weighing over twenty or so pounds is fine for camping but not really suited for backpacking. Basically if you spend most of your time hiking and you travel ten to twenty miles a day, go light. If you hike only a few miles a day you may want to carry more luxuries for your campsite. It is also safer to carry less. You are much more agile and stable with a light pack (and light shoes) which cuts down on fatigue, and stumbling. Of course there's also the obvious stresses on your muscular/skeletal system. Most experts advise not to carry more than 20% of your body weight under any circumstance, even if you are fit. I really don't mean to rant, just trying to be helpful. There are also many ultralight hikers (Ray Jardine, famously) who profess severe weight restrictions that demand more hearty souls than mine. These guys often carry no tent and move swiftly along trails. Basically, however you do it, Get Out There!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 10:32 am |
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zippofan 3T WIS 
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KenC wrote: Since 1969, my idea of camping is an Embassy Suites with no room service after mid-night...roughing it is a Holiday Inn with vending machines!!!But Ken, what if your guys want to join Scouts? The BSA is always looking for good leaders to put in "just one hour a week" :D Until they joined, my idea of camping was the same as you, LOL. This summer I have Assistant Scoutmaster outdoor weekend next month, OA Spring Ordeal in June to seal our bond, Gettysburg for a weekend in late June or possibly July, and a week at the "Pond", Scout camp in August. Then at the end of August and middle of September, 2 weekends for Wood Badge training. That's just the Boy Scouts and doesn't count the Cub Scout events  Cheers, Griff
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| Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 10:45 am |
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Rhino-Ranch Guest
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I agree -- we do some extensive hiking out here in the Bridger, Gallatin, and Tobacco Rt Mountains... starting out with a pack that weighs over 5 pounds empty is not a good idea. At the same time, I recommend a pack that has good suspension, hip belt, and compression straps. GRANITE GEAR is excellent. OSPREY makes some great packs. I have a bomber KELTY pack somewhere that is absolutely beautiful, and the best grade of black ballistic nylon. I prefer toploading, less weight and no zippers to fail, and you can really stuff a toploader. This summer I am hoping to get a waterproof pack that can be floated down stream in kayak, raft, or swim. Packs that are made for hunting or "military" look seem to be heavier, and carry a serious $$$ premium for the camo look.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 03:42 pm |
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e.avery 3T WIS 
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Light is better but I carry weapons that weigh in at 30 lbs. then I have to have things that keep me alive and also equipment to collect data. If you are going to sell a system to DOD than you must test it. If you are doing this as a hobby then stay light, my packs have to work.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 04:51 pm |
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Rhino-Ranch Guest
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In that case-- take a look at MYSTERY RANCH BACKPACKS made in Bozeman, MT.... designer Dana Gleason, formerly owner / designer of DANA DESIGNS. MYSTERY RANCH is built to US Govt Specs... designed with ballistic nylon, removable pouches, serious heavy hauling. e.avery wrote: Light is better but I carry weapons that weigh in at 30 lbs. then I have to have things that keep me alive and also equipment to collect data. If you are going to sell a system to DOD than you must test it.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 05:14 pm |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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I will take a look at it. I can change the form factors of the equipment to adjust to a few different packs. Thanks
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| Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 09:37 am |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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To anyone that is interested in turning there creative talents to the Defense Industry a good place to start would be the DARPA Agency. I went back to college to become an Engineer so I could design systems that work. http://www.darpa.mil/index.html
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11th, 2009 11:02 am |
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JCrad 3T WIS
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Back from Philmont! 62 miles in 10 days. Used a house brand top loader from REI. We had a lot of troop gear so were carrying around 40 pounds. Temps were from 40-90, sun , hail, rain, clouds fantastic night skies. Pix to follow...
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12th, 2009 12:02 pm |
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stormin13 3T WIS 
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Welcome back JCrad. Northern New Mexico is an absolutely gorgeous place to go camping, hunting fishing and etc. I've spent many, many days and nights in the mountains of New Mexico. I know I'm a little late with my "2 cents" but here goes. It seems to me that you received a lot of great advice from the 3T folks earlier, sorry I was not in the original thread. I'm a huge fan of Osprey packs and I saw that Rhino-Ranch suggested one to you, great packs!!!hand6.gifhand6.gif My other suggestion is rather expensive but (IMHO) there is no better pack made for hauling any type load to include extremely heavy loads in comfort than Kifaru. Plus, the pack will last a lifetime if cared for properly. Try looking at Kifaru I think you'll be impressed with their products, here is their url: http://www.kifaru.net. As you'll see on their website they also make gear for the military. Please take my word on this - they make gear for some of our nations most elite military members, which implies Kifaru gear must be perfect. perfect.gifI would love to see some of your pictures from Philmont, cheers. Norm (Stormin)
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13th, 2009 01:11 pm |
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toxicavenger 3T WIS 
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I 2nd the Osprey packs!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13th, 2009 01:36 pm |
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JCrad 3T WIS
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Yep, saw a lot of Osprey gear. Since my pack will be going back to its owner now, I'll keep them in mind for when it is purchase time.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13th, 2009 01:43 pm |
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JCrad 3T WIS
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