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 Posted: Sat Aug 11th, 2007 01:20 pm
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For anyone looking for good inexpensive American knives.  They are a great bunch of people also.  They have had a series of knives manufactured by Ontario Knives for a few years and are taking the line to the next level.  Ontario knives is a manufacturer that has production facilities in New York state and make the RAT knives that are basic no nonsense knives that just work.

The collection centers around two types of steal 1095 Carbon Steel and D2 Steel.  In order to keep it simple a good way of thinking of the 2 types is 1095 is good for hacking and chopping; D2 (tool steal) is better at holding an edge and for cutting.  1095 is also a lot easier to touch up in the field than D2.  D2 also tends to be more brittle and very dependent on the treatment processes in order to not have a catastrophic failure.



http://www.ratcutlery.com/

http://www.ontarioknife.com/adventure.html


Information on steel, treatments, and comparison

http://www.cutleryscience.com/reviews/blade_materials.html


 

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Cool I'll be sure to check the sites out. hand6.gif

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Ontario makes good knives ..... I have one ..... I have several Gerber , Buck and Kershaws ....My favorite is a 6" bladed 440 steel Gerber that Ive had for years but then I would say my Ontario survival knife

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I carry a Gerber 400 multi-tool every day great tool at a great price around $35 at Target.

If you ever want another knife you may want to look at one of these Gerber's.  Another great tool for the price of $60.  I never have had one but if it is like my multi-tool it must work well.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/gelmfiiknbli.html

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That is a hellova good price for that Gerber !

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Here are some pics of the Rat-5 and Rat-7.  The other 2 are MW knives that are specialty knives for use by experienced users.  The Ontario Rats are great knives for the money and are much more suited for real world out doors situations.  These knives are well suited for any situation except long term exposure to corrosive environments (salt water, rain forests, & etc).  With a light coat of oil I would not worry.  The micarta handles are the best for gripping in most conditions especially when they get wet.




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I can tell just by looking that those knives will outlast you....As a high-school boy I worked at the biggest ( at the time, the 1070's) outdoor sporting goods store in Wisconsin .... it was a highschool boys dream .... guns , knives and more ..... I spent all my paycheck on toys instead of my girlfriends but I still have those toys ...Winchester model 12 , Gerber knives, Uglystick rods with Shakespear reels .....We used to get those model 12 shotguns in for trade, and as an employee you could buy them for around 100 bucks ...I have a 12 and 16 gauge in great condition that are worth alot now .....I almost forgot about my dive knives ....I have a couple of FOG cutters that are cool


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That looks like a good selection of divers.  Do you get to use them much up there.  I need to get a dedicated diver, people look at you funny when you go diving with one of mine.  I do not get to rec. dive much any more, except with my crew, and people tend to stay the hell away form us at the marina's.  We just laugh and move on.  I wish that I would have had the chance to have a conventional job at some point in my life, it really sounds like fun.

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I carry a microtech

 


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Honestly I do not know anything about Microteck, but I will learn.  Thanks for the post.

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My son and I just got back last week from a diving trip in Canada (Clearwater Lake) We dove twice every day in shallow depths of about 30 feet but with lots of plant life that you can get tangled in ....so the knives become useful there ....also we got to spearfish and you can always find a use for a good knife ..... For our walleye catch we used a Kershaw fillae knife that became dull quickly ...we use an old fashioned wetstone for sharpening ....its about 80 years old and 8" by 3 " it was my grandpa's

e.avery wrote:
That looks like a good selection of divers.  Do you get to use them much up there.  I need to get a dedicated diver, people look at you funny when you go diving with one of mine.  I do not get to rec. dive much any more, except with my crew, and people tend to stay the hell away form us at the marina's.  We just laugh and move on.  I wish that I would have had the chance to have a conventional job at some point in my life, it really sounds like fun.

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more like a self defense knife...

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