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Finally I find it ironic that Yamahaki you write " I won't be buying an Asianese watch." when it looks like you own several. The Orsa's and Enzo's both were made with Asian parts. In fact the Enzo you are so impressed with looks to be made by the same company that is making the upcoming LM-3. Although the Enzo's asking price is over $1000 and the LM-3 is $499. The LM-3 with the custom bezel and anodized dial look to be a steal. If I were you I wouldn't say that you would rather buy a timex. With 7 upcoming Ocean7 models you never know if you will change your mind and want one down the road.
Enzo's watches aren't over 1000.00 bucks. maybe to you they are. To me, since I'm nice and talk to him, there at a very steep discount. So are the Orsa's from Martin. If you can look at the threads on both forums you will find that the Enzo is not asian, and orsa isn't either. This post was started about the g series and the nivrel comparison. Nivrel is a well respected and long standing brand. Thats the crux of this post, this thread evolved very well, with input from our own mod Steve giving us his input, and we all listened. The only bashing that happened was from you.