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picklepossy Guest
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Ok guys. Well i'm having some difficulty on deciding either to get an Oris Diver or the Marathon J-SAR. So i'm looking for some help and guidance. For the price of the J-SAR i can get the watch for $425 and the stainless steel band for $125 which i think is a great deal. The problem I'm having though is you can also get an Oris for the same price. Meaning by the time you calculate getting everything for the J-SAR just under $700. Hmmmm, I thought that I was convinced on the J-sar but looks like not yet. Any thoughts or suggestions???? Thank you. Justin |
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hucky 3T WIS 
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I would be learning towards the J Sar myself with the bracelet The J Sar looks more tough The Oris looks more classy The J Sar looks Bigger than the Oris Just buy them both and call it even woohoo.gif |
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picklepossy Guest
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The budget calls for only one watch right now. Both would be nice but not at this time. Usually I like to get a watch every 6 months in reason. |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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I've looked at the Marathon watches several times and always seem to go another direction. They they do look very cool. I have a Oris TT1 300M and I love it. ;) |
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mcwright Admin 
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I vote for the Oris depending on the movement it has. |
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IW 3T WIS 
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which Oris? They make a ton of divers. |
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anonimo851 3T WIS 
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quartz or automatic, and case size. I like them both. a oris tt1 can be had in ss or ti, on bracelet and get the divers kit for under a grand. black, blue or full lume dial. so far I have seen the eta 2824 in the full lume version and the sw200 in the black and blue versions. the jsar is huge. from what I've seen from other forums, people are pretty happy with it on the bracelet. |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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The JSAR is definitely "hotter" at the moment. An Oris can be had on the secondary market cheaper though. Tough call. |
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DEMO Guest
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IW wrote:which Oris? They make a ton of divers. Yeah, which Oris diver are you talking about? They make a lot of different models. The JSAR is really nice (for quartz) but to make a recommendation we need to know which Oris diver you are interested in. |
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captobvious 3T WIS 
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I've owned an Oris TT1 and a Marathon GSAR. Both are very cool watches. The Oris was much nicer, in my opinion. It just had a higher level fit and finish and just felt like a more upscale watch. However, if what you're going for is the "ultimate tool watch" it's hard to beat the Marathon. It is a solid watch with a monster bezel and the bracelet is quite nice. It does kind of bug me that while all other hands and dial markers are tritium tubes, the second hand is Superluminova and gets lost in the dark after a while. The only downside to Oris, IMHO, is that they don't hold their value that well. I took a pretty good loss on both Oris' I sold. However, that works out in your favor if you're buying used! ;) Last edited on Wed Mar 5th, 2008 11:21 am by captobvious |
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picklepossy Guest
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Well so far I thank everyones opinion. This was the watch I was thinking from Oris: Oris-TT1-Mens-Watch Stainless steel case and bracelet. Blue dial. Date displays at 6 o'clock position. Unidirectional rotating bezel. Scratch resistant sapphire crystal. Case diameter 44mm. Automatic movement. Water resistant at 300 meters (1000 feet). Attachment: oris.gif (Downloaded 172 times) |
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KenC Admin 
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The J-SAR is quartz...why are we even having this conversation??? ORIS!!!  |
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picklepossy Guest
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Wow, I hope I didn't hurt anyones feelings.............. |
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KenC Admin
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picklepossy wrote: Wow, I hope I didn't hurt anyones feelings.............. Nope...you didn't hurt mine - hope I didn't hurt yours...lot's of guys love them...I just have a thing about quartz! :D |
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picklepossy Guest
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I respect that. Quartz is not bad. If I can find a great deal on an Oris tt1 blue face I would then consider or if someone is selling one not to used. |
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Norman 3T WIS 
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Oh! Oris hands down! |
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AntFarm 3T WIS 
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Oris, remember it was on the Forbes top watches... and I own one myself. Though they both are really nice |
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romano 3T WIS 
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oris all the way |
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Chick Hazzard 3T WIS 
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FYI... The JSAR is a BIG BOY. My best bro has one and it is big. I suggest you see one first. |
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picklepossy Guest
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I've seen it last week and really did like it. For the watch and being a quartz and just being a solid watch and knowing it can take a beating i think i will just get it. That's the fun of owning watches you buy them and enjoy them. |
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Chick Hazzard 3T WIS
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You won't be disappointed with either. The JSAR is a watch that can take a beat down. |
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Eric L. 3T WIS 
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Agree 100% - I have both watches - a 44mm Oris Titan 1000m and JSAR and the Oris is a better watch by far. If the JSAR were automatic, all bets would be off though. KenC wrote: The J-SAR is quartz...why are we even having this conversation??? ORIS!!! |
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Norman 3T WIS
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Hmm..I submitted a post in this thread...and now it's vanished.. a very curious thing. |
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Norman 3T WIS
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quartzaphobics??!:? |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Norman wrote: nothing mysterious at all....no sales or requests on open forum please!...same goes for you Pickle:D Hmm..I submitted a post in this thread...and now it's vanished.. a very curious thing. |
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Norman 3T WIS
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Oh..what I said was in gest..like..I've got some swamp land in florida for sale. No interest in selling a watch. |
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picklepossy Guest
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ok then. thanks anyways. any crocs in your swamp???? |
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KenC Admin
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picklepossy wrote: ok then. thanks anyways. any crocs in your swamp???? No crocs in FL....Alligators!!! :shock::shock::shock:  |
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picklepossy Guest
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hahahahahha. That's hilarious. What a PIC!!!! |
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RGRAY 3T WIS
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Eric L. wrote: ...If the JSAR were automatic, all bets would be off though. |
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picklepossy Guest
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where i can get the automatic done or done by properly. has anyone done this yet??? |
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Willieboy 3T WIS 
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I've never had an Oris. I do have a TSAR and it's one of my favorite watches. It's quartz/tritium. Not to complicate the issue, but you might look at the Boschett Reef Ranger, an automatic. It seems like a great watch and you'll have money left over. Last edited on Thu Jun 19th, 2008 06:54 pm by Willieboy |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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picklepossy wrote: where i can get the automatic done or done by properly. has anyone done this yet??? 2 pieces have been done as far as I have seen. Jack at IWW did the first, the second was done by Duarte at NEWW. |
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RGRAY 3T WIS
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Tony Duronio wrote: picklepossy wrote:where i can get the automatic done or done by properly. has anyone done this yet??? That's the 2 guys, but I think it's up to 6 now. http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=158913 |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I would like to see a pic of this mod as the dial feet and hands will not fit a eta 2824......they were made specifically for the quartz movement and there is a difference in thickness between the 2 movements from what I know and all this would also have to be changed and or modified....$150.? for a eta 2824-2 and all this labor?....someone needs to show me this....:D |
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murphy j 3T WIS 
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I don't know about cost and movement price, but I know this has been done. A couple of guys over at MWR have had their's done. One by Jack @ IWW and one by Duarte @ NEWW. |
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RGRAY 3T WIS
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Here's another tread on the subject. http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14896 I think it's for real. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I have read all the threads when they were posted Gray...where are the actual pics and cost being qouted from Jack and Duarte :?....an eta movement is not very cheep these days for someone to state $150. including movement and labor is all I am asking..... |
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murphy j 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: I have read all the threads when they were posted Gray...where are the actual pics and cost being qouted from Jack and Duarte :?....an eta movement is not very cheep these days for someone to state $150. including movement and labor is all I am asking..... I know this was directed at Gray, but Oscar, I believe there are some pics over at MWR, but I haven't looked yet. Also, I believe some numbers were thrown around over there the last time I saw a post about it. |
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hucky 3T WIS
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Im on board with this, send me to your leader. I have a message into Duarte, Ill see what he says? Cheers |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Howard at westcoastime and MWR has the SAR with auto eta and at 46mm for $585.-$535.(bracelet extra)....so why go through all this trouble to install a eta into the J-Sar....isn't the J-Sar also 46mm....is it the dial that everyone likes on the J-Sar and aren't the cases the same except for height face4.gif |
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murphy j 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: Howard at westcoastime has the SAR with auto eta and at 46mm for $585.(bracelet extra)....so why go through all this trouble to install a eta into the J-Sar....isn't the J-Sar also 46mm face4.gifThat might be a misprint. I thought the SAR, GSAR and TSAR were all the same case size. The only difference being the lume, hands and movement. I just double checked over at MWR and their site says 46mm on case size for all 3 of those, so I'm not sure how they're doing their measurements. My GSAR can't be bigger than 42mm excluding lugs:?. It's roughly the same size as my SMP, just taller and chunkier. I'll check over at CountyComm too. |
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hucky 3T WIS
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The Sar has a Case of 46 and a Bezel of 41mm The J sar has a case and bezel of 46mm I never understood how that worked???? cheers |
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murphy j 3T WIS
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CountyComm lists the case size as 46mm also and the JSAR as 46.6mm, but when you look at the side by side comparison picture, there's a HUGE difference. Still not sure how they're measuring their cases though. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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TY....I can see how the j-SAR would be more desirable with the larger bezel and viewing area.....I wonder what the modders are using for a retainer ring......I would do this mod myself if all it took was a swapping of movementshand6.gif I searched the MWR but no pics ...I would like to see what hands are being used... |
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murphy j 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: TY....I can see how the j-SAR would be more desirable with the larger bezel and viewing area.....I wonder what the modders are using for a retainer ring......I would do this mod myself if all it took was a swapping of movementshand6.gif I searched the MWR but no pics ...I would like to see what hands are being used... I found one pic of the one Jack did and it has a different set of hands. The search I ran was 'automatic JSAR'. I didn't find any mention of price either, so I may have been mistaken or saw it somewhere else. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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TY Murph....found ithand6.gif...looks like Sea Angler hands... http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13175 |
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murphy j 3T WIS
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Your Welcome Oscar. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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There has to be a misprint on all these sites as far as case size being 46mm for this auto SAR.....if you read the description it says bezel diameter 41.10 mm and when you look at the watch the bezel is the same size of the case minus the crown guards....I'm thinking 46mm is lug to lug face4.gif Marathon (SAR) Dive Watch 2006 Contract Made by the Marathon Watch Company by contract to the Canadian Government for issuance to their SAR-Techs. This is the original SAR on a new 2006 Contract! New Generation. 120 click new and improved bezel (staked triangle). Comes with a new Swiss made natural rubber strap with stainless signed steel buckle. New packaging. This is a limited opportunity to own the original style SAR with Maraglo hands. Attachment: sar2002b.jpg (Downloaded 59 times) |
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Topher1556 3T WIS 
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You're right O, it's surely not 46mm wide for the normal GSAR/TSAR. I've had a GSAR and it wasn't nearly as big as I expected. And seeing a GSAR compared to the JSAR, they definately use different sized cases/bezels (the JSAR looks huge). I can see the desire for the JSAR size, if someone likes big watches. On my wrist, I thought the GSAR wore quite a bit smaller than it's measurements suggested, even on the fantastic bracelet. Last edited on Thu Jun 19th, 2008 10:33 am by Topher1556 |
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hucky 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: There has to be a misprint on all these sites as far as case size being 46mm for this auto SAR.....if you read the description it says bezel diameter 41.10 mm and when you look at the watch the bezel is the same size of the case minus the crown guards....I'm thinking 46mm is lug to lug face4.gif
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Topher1556 3T WIS
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From what I've read around here...you'd really like this wouldn't you Hucky? ;) For the price though...man it seems sweet. I'd be tempted to get the dial/hands relumed and painted, as well as a bunch of other mods too....oh man...please don't do this mod cheaply...I'll be broke :D. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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if I knew what ISA quartz was used in the J-SAR it would shed a better light for me as far as how the mod is done....if all it takes is a simple swap of movements and a change of the hour/minute hand I can do it.....from the looks the J-SAR second hand can be usedhand6.gif I don't own a J-SAR so I can't determine what the size of the movement is inside and if the retaining ring and dial feet will match up ...what has thrown me is the qoute of $150. including the eta 2824-2 as I have not seen any movements selling for less than $145.:? |
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hucky 3T WIS
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Topher1556 wrote: From what I've read around here...you'd really like this wouldn't you Hucky? ;) I like my J Sar Topher, and it would be cool to have it in Auto Mode Im working on this really hard. cheers |
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RGRAY 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: if I knew what ISA quartz was used in the J-SAR it would shed a better light for me as far as how the mod is done....if all it takes is a simple swap of movements and a change of the hour/minute hand I can do it.....from the looks the J-SAR second hand can be usedhand6.gif I don't own a J-SAR so I can't determine what the size of the movement is inside and if the retaining ring and dial feet will match up ...what has thrown me is the qoute of $150. including the eta 2824-2 as I have not seen any movements selling for less than $145.:? I got an email back from Jack and he said that it would be $150 + S/H for the transplant of the 2824-2 movement including the movement. My name is Rick Gray (Rick if you want to be friendly) and my handle is RGRAY. NOT "GRAY." |
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hucky 3T WIS
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Wow, RGRAY, easy now. You sound like that guy in Stripes with Bill Murray "If any of you Homos touch my stuff, Ill Kill ya"  |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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hucky wrote: Wow, RGRAY, easy now. Francis.... |
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RGRAY 3T WIS
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WHAT A CLICK! GOOD-BY!!! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Was it something I said Gray:D Here is a cool vid on the J-SAR at MWRhand6.gif http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8884 |
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DEMO Guest
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Man, this is some entertaining S**T! |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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RGRAY wrote: WHAT A CLICK! Don't take this stuff so seriously. Why not have a little fun? You hang around here and you may just get a nickname... and it may not be your handle. BTW- I'm pretty sure you mean clique.Bouncy.gif |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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nickname? ...and like Pax said....it's all in fun :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoYsfbq3vMc&feature=related |
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teddyhanna Guest
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Where's grey or is gray...did he come here just to get sensitive or what. I mean come on, ya were one big click, I mean get it right dude.. Hey O you did nothing wrong. Let me think about this hmm...you called him Grey. I mean does he got his chonies pulled up to his ears or what... Oh man this guy, oh I mean regray is killin me.....yahoo.gif |
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Foster 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote: nickname? ...and like Pax said....it's all in fun :D His handle is PAXMAN....not "PAX" Last edited on Thu Jun 19th, 2008 08:50 pm by Foster |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Foster wrote: oagaspar wrote:nickname? ...and like Pax said....it's all in fun :D Okay Fos :D |
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KenC Admin
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As RJ Johnson once said: You can call me Ray, and you can call me Jay. You can call me Ray Jay or you can call me RJ, but you doesn't has to call me Mr. Johnson! To paraphrase: You can call me RGray or you can call me Rick, but you doesn't......awww, screw it...HEY PUTZ! Damn, I just hate it when we bring out a guy's inner-feminine self! Now I'm all teary-eyed and everything! |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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You better go light Ken or you're gonna get a bad reputation... |
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KenC Admin
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Paxman wrote: You better go light Ken or you're gonna get a bad reputation... Well, right now I've got a little PTSD kicking in, so..........coyote2.gif |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: Paxman wrote:You better go light Ken or you're gonna get a bad reputation... LOL my Shrinks tell me I have some of that PTSD. I just tell them they must be crazy. Or am I crazy. I forget. LMAO |
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murphy j 3T WIS
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Paxman wrote: RGRAY wrote:Damnit! You beat me to it Pax:D. Hey Rick, if you're still lurking around, I just want to say that there was no disrespect meant by the shortening of your handle. I also know it's really hard to convey 'tone' on a computer screen, but you did come across as a tad sensitive. We all pick on each other here, because we are a tight knit group as far as forums go i.e. we're like a family. If you want to call us a clique, that's fine because I don't think anyone here will be offended.WHAT A CLICK! |
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blues22 3T WIS
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I have the blue faced diver. One of my all time favorites! Especially in the sunlight. YOu won't be sorry. Oris kicks it! |
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hucky 3T WIS
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murphy j wrote: Paxman wrote:RGRAY wrote:Damnit! You beat me to it Pax:D. Hey Rick, if you're still lurking around, I just want to say that there was no disrespect meant by the shortening of your handle. I also know it's really hard to convey 'tone' on a computer screen, but you did come across as a tad sensitive. We all pick on each other here, because we are a tight knit group as far as forums go i.e. we're like a family. If you want to call us a clique, that's fine because I don't think anyone here will be offended.WHAT A CLICK! Lighten Up Francis |
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mike400 3T WIS
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The fit and finnish of the Oris is supurb, and the watch looks damm nice and is well built. The JSAR is a great kickaround work watch that is a good deal too. It is quartz and is not as elegant. But you have to ask yourself one important question, "which watch would James Bond be wearing"........ |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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you do know this thread is 9 mos. old? ..and I believe PP bought the J-Sar:D mike400 wrote: The fit and finnish of the Oris is supurb, and the watch looks damm nice and is well built. The JSAR is a great kickaround work watch that is a good deal too. It is quartz and is not as elegant. But you have to ask yourself one important question, "which watch would James Bond be wearing"........ |
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