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EricAldovino
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I had to... For $249 a nice mechanical chrono, sapphire glass classic style.


Invicta Men's Milestone 1966 Swiss Mechanical Chronograph Watch
Choices: Black, Blue, Brown, or Dark Green dial
A modern classic both in design and function, ready to respond to the rigors of your adventurous life! The finest milled block of 316L stainless steel constructs the round case of this horological marvel, charged up with a Technica Swiss Ebauche 1902 mechanical movement and outfitted with a chronograph complication for accurate measurements of elapsed time. The design inspiration for the movement comes from a very old Swiss Venus 175 caliber officially removed from production in 1966. The balance wheel of the Technica Swiss Ebauche 1902 rotates, or beats, six times per second resulting in 21,600 beats per hour!
An exhibition back with a scratch-resistant sapphire crystal allows you to witness first-hand the woven web of mechanics behind the dial and offers a glimpse of watchmaking artistry in motion. A scratch-resistant sapphire crystal also sits inside the bezel on the front of the watch offering superior protection to the dial.
The round, satin polished ceramic sunray dial in your choice of available color displays highly polished silver-tone Arabic numerals at all hour positions. CD cut, textured silver-tone sub-dials with furnace blue hands appear near 3:00 and 9:00 while a dial color coordinating sub-dial with a red hand occupies the space above 6:00. The name "Invicta" and logo shine below 12:00. A bi-level outer rim on the dial offers silver-tone dot index markers at all hour locations and silver-tone line second markers for added depth and dimension.
Silver-tone Tritnite luminous hour and minute hands and a red chronograph hand collaborate to complete the charismatic dial design and confidently deliver the time. A comfortable and fluid 316L surgical grade stainless steel bracelet featuring a combination of brushed and polished links subtly tapers to 20mm and secures every detail of this finely crafted timepiece to your wrist.
  • Bracelet: Stainless steel
  • Movement: Technica Swiss Ebauche 1902 Mechanical Chronograph - 22 jewels - 21,600 beats per hour
  • Crystal: Scratch-resistant sapphire
  • Crown: Push/pull w/ function pushers
  • Clasp: Deployant
  • Bracelet Measurements: 9" L x 22mm W
  • Case Measurements: 45mm
  • Water Resistance: 10 ATM - 100 meters - 330 feet
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    Yea not a bad price for that. Looks good. Like the 3 eye configuration. ;)

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    Cheaper than the $375 Poljot Sturmanskies... I had a Poljot Sturmie I picked up from Marc at Island,  back then they were selling for $225 those Sturmies.   Anyhow, I figured for the $249 not a bad deal at all. Should arrive by May22. Will review and post pics.  Price jumps up to $499 after today.

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    Is this the same one Scottran got? I'm not sure what to make of it... sure looks like a Chinese winder... is it Swiss. Can they be trusted. Aldovino's own YouTube productions say no!

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    Paxman wrote: Is this the same one Scottran got? I'm not sure what to make of it... sure looks like a Chinese winder... is it Swiss. Can they be trusted. Aldovino's own YouTube productions say no!
    The one scottran got is a different one, it doesnt say swiss anywhere on it.  I believe this one does, now if it is true or not well that is another story.subtlelaugh.gif

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    You never really know, but Eyal "said" it was Invicta's in-house movt. a Movement that they aquired from S coifman and added to it. IIt is based on the Venus 175movement and  billed as an Technica Swiss Ebauche?  I think it just might be. Figured I'd get it home and see it for this price cool10.gifI was missing my old Poljot Sturmanskie hand cranker so this was a no brainer for $249.  Sapphire front and back, incabloc, cranker 22 jewels, solid end links, multilink bracelet etc and of course, that Invicta peace of mind. goofy

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    That would be Chiswiss or Swiasiansubtlelaugh.gif

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    They just might have an adress in China as he did say "it was built in house by Invicta"

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    EricAldovino wrote: They just might have an adress in China as he did say "it was built in house by Invicta"

    Well for the price you got a good deal and it looks good. But most other sites that carry it do state the movement as being a "Japan 1902 mechanical chronograph 22 jewels" ;)

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    EricAldovino wrote:

    and that would definetly be China.....as I mentioned in a similar thread when this movement was used years ago in the Object d'Art line of Invicta they had nothing but problems...it was called the Technica Ebauche then and that line is now defunct...I hope they improved since thenhand6.gif
    They just might have an adress in China as he did say "it was built in house by Invicta"

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    If the China movement though it could be the "Seagull ST1902 manual wind movement made in China" which is said to be a alright movement. Segull dose some rather nice work.

    But either way with the price if you like it and it's working fine that is what matters. ;)

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    the Seagull is a Awesome movement which I have in several of my mechanical chronoshand6.gif....a little FYI is that Eyal opened his own shop in China and is making watches as well as movements in house with plans of making a new movement from what I have heard through the grapevine;)

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    I believe that if you look at the movement, you'll see that it is exactly the same as the Sea-Gull chrono based on the old Venus 175 movement and probably made in the Sea-Gull (i.e. Chinese) factory. That said, it is a good movement and worth the price asked. The sub dial at 6 is silly, though, as it only mimics the movement of the hour hand and is not independantly settable.

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    a quote from Eddie Platts in regards to Seagull movementshand6.gif

    The interesting thing about the Seagull movements (or any other Chinese movement) is that I can get them and have them finished (refinished) in Switzerland or Germany, have my own calibre number stamped on them and call them Swiss or German.

    Eddie

    and a nice pictorial on the seagull st19 chronohand6.gif

    http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=7777&forum_id=5

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      Order History orders are displayed from 02-01-2005.


    Order date: 5/4/2008 Order #: [url=javascript:openPopWin('/myaccount/orderreview.aspx?cm_re=OrderHistory-_-Order-_-N&ordernumber=56695895', 1050, 800, 'menubar=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=yes', 0, 0);]56695895[/url]    Amount: $0.00      Status: [url=javascript:OrderStatusPopUp_window=window.open('OrderStatusPopUp.aspx?cm_re=OrderHistory-_-Status-_-N','OrderStatusPopUp_window','width=480,height=168,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes');OrderStatusPopUp_window.focus();]Cancelled[/url]   Order placed via the phone. Items in order: Track Packages
    0 - [url=javascript:openPopWin('http://www.shopnbc.com/product/?cm_re=OrderHistory-_-Product-_-N&familyid=J174800&track=-80400', 1050, 800, 'menubar=no,toolbar=no,location=no,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes,status=yes', 1, 1);]J174800 - Invicta Men's Mileston[/url]snoopy1.gifBad Eyal!!  No Swissasian allowed!

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    Went with this one instead for a nice $250. 

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    EricAldovino wrote: Went with this one instead for a nice $250. 

    Good deal. I'm still enjoying mine I scored last year. hand6.gif

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    Now at last I find a mechanical Chrono for a really, really nice price ;-) Thanks to Ken.

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    I'm not one to start or spread rumors but reading on another forum the person said that during the OTV a hand fell of the watch while js was showing it...and he did a good job of hiding it...take it FWIW................

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    a hand fell off ?mistake.gif

    ....well as many know I still snag some Invictas for whatever reason but they are well researched and rarely if ever picked up from Slop...there are a few good models out there but knowing what and when to buy along with how much to pay and who makes them has become an artform among many of ushand6.gif 

         With this said I tend to stick with higher end Invictas(not always a wise choice)once they are dropped to a price that is more in line to what I feel the watch is worth as their debut prices are much inflated and many of us know to never buy an Invicta when it 1st comes out as they will be sold for 50 to 70% less in a matter of time....also an Invicta LE never seems to sell out as they reappear almost magically months to a year down the line! :D

       Never buy an Invicta from Slop when it says only 1 left as it is 95% sure it was a return and will be in need of repair!:D

        Never send a Invicta to them for warranty work as it will come back in worse shape than when it went in:D

       When Eyal repeatedly says"You Guys" during a presentation he is usually BS'ing:D

    ...So I've started the ball a rolling so if any of our very astute WIS here at 3T have something to add that may help the new Invictaphile in their purchases please let us knowhand6.gif

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    Eyal should NEVER speak. He is a bumbling type... The BS is so clear and you can even see him try and not laugh when he is speaking as if he and Jim have some kinda inside jokes concerning the product they are peddling.

    You know it's suspect when they dance around the technical specs. The same line gets repeated again and again" this is a MECHANICAL chrone A Graph"  as opposed to chronograph.

    "this is a top tier mechanical chrone a graph!!!!!"  No mention as to its origins etc. 

    Someone needs to let Jim know he is peddling watches... I think somehwere along the lines he was told he was JUST like Jay Leno.  No no no.   Stick to selling asian "swiss made"  watches Jim.  The Talk show angle is very late night informercial colon cleansing for just $19.99!!!!!!!!!

    Once Again I am spared by my T-3 brethren from yet another Invicta Swissasian timepiece O shyt.

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    This movement was made specifically to appease the replica watch market in china who needed a three register narrow spaced sub dial chronograph.

    As was pointed out the 6 o-clock sub dial is another hour hand. If the watch had been made like a regulator without the central hour hand and with more emphasis on the 6 0-clock sub dial I would have bought two of them, as it is I will wait until eor um i mean he-haw.. whatever the heck his name is can get the regular ST19 with two registers in his watches.

    Also I seem to recall Android used the regular ST19 in a cool looking watch last year too...

    even after all that complaining it's still a darned nice watch!


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    EricAldovino wrote: Now at last I find a mechanical Chrono for a really, really nice price ;-) Thanks to Ken.

    Friends don't let friends buy Invicta!mistake.gif

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    oagaspar wrote:
       When Eyal repeatedly says"You Guys" during a presentation he is usually BS'ing:D


    Just one minor correction...when Eyal says anything...he is usually BS'ing! yourock.gif

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    Paxman wrote: Is this the same one Scottran got? I'm not sure what to make of it... sure looks like a Chinese winder... is it Swiss. Can they be trusted. Aldovino's own YouTube productions say no!I just looked and that watch has the same movemant that mine does.  It was also billed as a technica.  Good thing is its still working fine after 2.5 months.  One thing I am suprised with is that its reserve is at least 36 hours when fully wound.  So far so good.:D

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    If it is the same movement as the ST-19 then hand6.gif

    I have two, one in the Alpha "Newman" (12 hour subdial, I wish it was one of the newer 24 hr ones...) and the Seagull Chinese Air Force chrono.  I love em both!  They both run well, super smooth action and have been very reliable so far.

    I don't know how Alpha sells them for $120...

    Cheers,
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    Man, the guy who started this post cant feel good about his purchase after reading
     all the Invicta  bashing and to top it off he gets a chinese movement. I used to think
    snbc was pretty good, i bought a nice Zodiac chrono and hammy chrono from them and was really satisfied. I did overpay for them by about 350.00 but hey, they finance.   I also purchased 7 invictas and all of em had some detracting feature. I unloaded all of them on ebay last week. never again! 

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    deno24 wrote: Man, the guy who started this post cant feel good about his purchase after reading
     all the Invicta  bashing and to top it off he gets a chinese movement. I used to think
    snbc was pretty good, i bought a nice Zodiac chrono and hammy chrono from them and was really satisfied. I did overpay for them by about 350.00 but hey, they finance.   I also purchased 7 invictas and all of em had some detracting feature. I unloaded all of them on ebay last week. never again! 



    Don't worry about Mr. Aldovino. If you read the thread you'll see he ended up with a nice Russian mechanical chrono from an esteemed 3T member. smile8.gif

     

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    I would have been pissed but my trusty brothers here on T3, however subtle they were... steered me away from the "SWISS ebauche Techniqa"

    Thanks to Ken here it is!

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    Looking good, Eric!!!  Enjoy! hand6.gif

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    Thanks Khand6.gifen! Love this watch!

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    Yea that is a great catch there Eric hand6.gif


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