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| Posted: Sun Jul 30th, 2006 04:53 pm |
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SIRoadrunner 3T WIS 
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Two of my favorites: Zeno Basel and a coin edged bezel ... rolled up into one BEAUT of a watch on Ebay (Pilot / Automatic). Thanks to TNY795 for bringing it to my attention! Has anyone ever purchased from the seller, noted below? Reviews? Opinions? Zeno always warns about buying fakes ... only go through a dealer, yada, yada, yada. I'd appreciate opinions - a) I'm not much of an Ebayer and b) I've never bought a watch on Ebay. SIRoadrunner Seller:  ambience360( 918 )   Feedback: 99.8% Positive Member: since Dec-02-04 in Germany Registered as a business seller Attachment: 9e_2.jpg (Downloaded 178 times)
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30th, 2006 05:10 pm |
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e.avery 3T WIS 
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Thanks, the seller has a lot of pieces I have been looking for.:D
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30th, 2006 07:17 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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I have purchased a few Watches from Ambiance360(alexander...good guy)...shipping is overnight and costs...and expect a bill from Fedex as well...but the Watches A+ ...I bought a Formex and a prototype Zeno from him and Ambience is A+ an excellent e-bayer :) Sir...that particular Zeno can be had in the Form of a Trias Backgammon for a savings...there is a Link on the topic here at 3T that was discussed a while ago as the 2 being one and the same...check IslandWatch link at bottom of the front page and look at Trias WWII Watch...:D
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30th, 2006 07:24 pm |
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pacifichrono 3T WIS 
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With only one negative feedback out of the last 850, I would buy from him any time. Also, he accepts PayPal, which is unusual for German eBay sellers.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30th, 2006 10:32 pm |
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SIRoadrunner 3T WIS
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Well that's good news ... personal experience w/a seller is the best rating one can have. Funny you mentioned Trias, I've checked them, too, and I agree, they are alike. There's just something about a Zeno ... that, just makes me go "aaaah" ... Thanks for the feedback folks!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30th, 2006 11:54 pm |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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The Trais has the 25 jewel 2824-2 with date as apposed to the 17 jewel 1783 if any of that matters to you. I have the Zeno with the same case and Unitas hand crank, I wish I would have bought the Trias after buying other Trias models. The 2 watches are made by the same people on the same line, Zeno makes the Swiss Trias watches.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 08:57 am |
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SIRoadrunner 3T WIS
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Zeno makes Trias? ...had no idea. Thanks for the tip ... I'll revisit Trias's webpage. ;)
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 09:25 am |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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I've dealt with seller and Oscar's description is accurate. You'll have the item quick via FedEx but will get a bill for customs. Watch his Zeno offering carefully...some are Zeno Watch Basel and other just Zeno although he pictures them all with Zeno Watch Basel documents. Pax
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 09:34 am |
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SIRoadrunner 3T WIS
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Other than ?? vs. Swiss ...what's the difference bwtwn. Zeno and Zeno Basel .. TIA SIRoadrunner Last edited on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 09:36 am by SIRoadrunner |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 09:43 am |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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Zeno's are NOS and Zeno B. is current production, I think but do not hold me to it. Will find out though. Here is a link that may help. http://www.timetechtalk.com/forum1/2721.html
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 09:58 am |
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SIRoadrunner 3T WIS
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Learn somethin' new everyday ... Thanks!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 03:11 pm |
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ambience360 3T WIS 
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e.avery wrote: Zeno's are NOS and Zeno B. is current production, I think but do not hold me to it. Will find out though. Hello to all, i thought i should answer to this myself. Zeno and Zeno de Luxe are used mostly on productions that aren't part of the standard retail collection. The company is named Zeno Watch or Zeno Watch Basel (after the location of it's HQ that is located in the city of Basel in Switzerland). The CEO Mr. Huber switches between the different styles of the logo, nobody except him will know why he uses different brand logos. The Huber family has connections to or holds shares of many swiss manufacturers and so they get a lot of NOS (new old stock), Roamer, Doxa, Vulcain, old MRS watches (i.e. Revue, Phoenix etc.) and they also produce several different brands beside Zeno. In most cases those brands are used for promotion watches, private labels or testing purposes (Rendex, Swiss Master, Swiss Golfer as example). They also have access to large quantities of rare NOS movements, i.e. A. Schild or FHF and use them for own and ordered productions. The Zeno brand consists of about 2000 different models and variations (without NOS) meanwhile but many of them are small scale lines only. They have a certain base retail collection that can be get in every country where you can find an official Zeno dealer. Others are either special lines made for specific markets or on order of importers and those are often not known by other distributors, so if you have doubts, ask in Switzerland directly. As Pax mentionend before, there are huge differences, the standard retail collection has only about 10 quartz/battery driven watches, all other are mechanical. All are swiss made but not all Zenos are. A whole bunch of models is driven by Citizen/Miyota movements, mostly calibres OS10 and OS20 and those movements are Japan made. Good, reliable movements but because of the origin the wathces are not allowed to be labeled swiss made (see FHS definition of the label). Zeno has - as most other maufacturers also - connections to Asia and gets parts from there. The guarantee card from Zeno is always the same, so Pax, we did not add it by accident, it's the real card that belongs to the item. The US distributor used a slightly different but it's issued by them not by Zeno, all distributors are companies on their own and try to give their products are unique look sometimes. We are supplied by Zeno Switzerland directly and are authorized to stamp the guarantee cards. Feel free to ask the HQ, they also know that we sell online. We can also get all currently available models, so no restrictions for us. please take a look at the comments on the Zeno website about the brand (and other imitations): http://www.zeno-watch.ch/en/Warning/Imitations/body_imitations.html I think they have made some watches for Trias in the beginning only. Best regards, Alex P.S. Nice site, i've found it by accident more or less, someone hotlinked to us...you have one of the most knowledgeable sites around for WIS ;)
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