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 Posted: Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 10:30 pm
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18mm is very top heavy, the bracelet can balance some of that, but you always know that sucker is on.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 10:50 pm
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for a quick comparison, the Orsa is 16mm high with a 45mm case; whereas the LM-3 will be 18mm high with a 42mm case. 

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Actually, a very good review and excellent photos................it looks a let better there...but the 18mm stack just kills it for me!

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 Posted: Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 10:57 pm
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Its tough to compare height and how it carries when the diameters are different. 45mm at 16mm spreads the weight out over more of an area than 18mm over 42mm. I have the nauticfish. Heavy. My Zeno spreads its height over 45mm, so it carries better.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 11:04 pm
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I guess another thing to consider is that even though its a narrower case, it uses 24mm lugs (wider than the 22m orsa) which i would think  might help stabilize it on the wrist.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 11:13 pm
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I think on this one issue, we should just buy the watch and try it out. The lug size may be different, but whats the width of the outside of the lug horns? I have some monsters here that would fool anyone on how they will wear like the massive Vixas. What the lug hole to lug hole size? The orsa is 50mm.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 11:43 pm
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This is what balances the Orsa Sea Angler...a large retaining ring that is more like a wall that gives it some center of gravityhand6.gif
http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=3817&forum_id=1&highlight=inside+the+orsa+sea+angler

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 Posted: Sat Mar 24th, 2007 11:47 am
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This is my first post over here (I only found out about this forum when somebody told my my shots of the LM-3 were in this thread) but I think I have to say a few things...

First and most important, I must say that I don't really know "yamahaki" at all, except for the few posts he dropped over on WUS where he managed to really piss off a few of the regulars, so much so that he felt to need to fall on his sword and aplogize in order to get back into the fold, but the way he has acted over there and from what I see in this thread, I gotta ask...do you actually post the things you do in your "stream of consciouness" fashion without thinking of what you are really saying, then change your mind as the wind blows without any thought of your previous ramblings?!! From my admittedly limited knowledge of you on the watch boards, it seems to me like you toss this stuff up just trying to get a rise outta people! There a tons of guys on the internet with a "Look At Me!" persona, but the way your opinions on the LM-3 flip-flopped yesterday make me wonder about your intent...

At 3:41 PM you said: "...oceans new lm3 is a winner in my book. the others I had no likey for. this one is the perfect tool watch..."

Although you did add that even though it was "perfect" you still felt "...a depth rating to me is mandatory on a dial..." and "...2nd dislike is the hour hand. to short and stubby...". So, not exactly perfect, huh?!!

You also added, "...The case is a nice chunk of steel. taller and shorter lug to lug which is a good thing. the Shaumberg hangs off  the sides of my wrist...". This bolsters what I said about you saying things without knowing what you are talking about...the two cases are EXACTLY the same! Same size, same weight, same everything. Have you ever had a Schaumburg on your wrist?

You finished with the statement that you have "...no animosity towards there company. just putting up a honest opinion. I'll buy one when they go on sale..."

But then...less than an hour later at 4:25PM you toss this out there: "...I went to the ocean7 website for price. 699.00 is reasonable. but when I clicked on the watch for details, its on a rubber strap. 99.00 for the bracelet. thats a deal killer..." and "...sorry, I think there still having a problem with honesty in advertising. The review is given entirely on bracelet which leads anyone to think thats how the watch is sold. alittle misleading as usual, and no, I'm not going on there site to point the obvious out and get slammed and banned..."

First of all, my review is not "advertising" anything! I am posting my thoughts on a new watch, period! Mitch has had the LM-3 price up on the site for months and for you to claim he's somehow "misleading" is crap and you owe another apology! Your fears about getting banned probably stem from the simple fact that you say things without thinking...nobody is getting kicked off of WUS without first giving the mods some pretty good reasons!

Let's continue, shall we? Just a few minutes later, since you now have apparently fallen out-of-love with the LM-3, your long knives come out and at 4:31PM you post the link using my photo that, in your mind, shows a major design flaw with the lugs on the LM-3. You claim there is "...something thats way off..." and your proof is a shadow in the photo that to your eagle-eyes means the machining must have been screwed up in the lug design.

How does somebody go from being completely over the moon about a watch at 3:41PM, to trashing it and tossing it in the bin at 4:31PM? Less than an hour?!! You'll have to excuse me for being so skeptical, from from where I'm standing you look like you have an axe to grind with Ocean7! You continue to give up more wrong information when you said "...everyone wanted that watch built with a bracelet, not as an option. Now its an option?", when in fact, Mitch had ALWAYS said the bracelet would be optional! In the Ocean7 LM-3 Plans & Picture thread he started 11/24/2006, in the very first sentence of the first thread, Mitch stated: "1000m/3000ft, sapphire, SW 200 automatic movement, silicone strap, $495 (bracelet extra)"...how much clearer do you want it?!! BRACELET EXTRA!!!

This is hardly the way I would have liked to introduce myself on a new watch forum, but I think his behavior has to questioned. I don't know all the details of why he got the mods on WUS so pissed off at him but his actions yesterday will make me doubt anything he says from now on.

BT

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 Posted: Sat Mar 24th, 2007 11:59 am
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Welcome to 3T Brenthand6.gif I have only one question is the LM-3 $495. or $695. because on the site it states $695.? and with the use of the Selitta SW200 I would hope it would be $495. w/bracelet watch2.gif
http://ocean7watchco.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=OCEAN7&Category_Code=LM

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 Posted: Sat Mar 24th, 2007 12:17 pm
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Hello Brad and thanks for joining us on 3T. 

Oscar, the $495 price quoted was the forum members price that Mitch offerred, with the $699 price being the MSRP.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 24th, 2007 12:24 pm
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srh_pres wrote:
Is that a WUS forum member? or do I have to post on the O7 forum to get that $495. price:) I would like to buy one when they are releasedhand6.gif Hello Brad and thanks for joining us on 3T. 

Oscar, the $495 price quoted was the forum members price that Mitch offerred, with the $699 price being the MSRP.


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 Posted: Sat Mar 24th, 2007 12:24 pm
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KenC wrote: Actually, a very good review and excellent photos................it looks a lot better there...but the 18mm stack just kills it for me!

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 Posted: Sat Mar 24th, 2007 12:33 pm
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Hi Brad...................welcome to 3T.  I thought (as previously stated) that your "review/thoughts/whatever" and the accompanying pictures were excellent.  I understand your point of view, believe me, plenty of forum members on WUS have pissed me off as have a few here and elsewhere.  That said, perhaps I can change my mind about Oceans7 as you did and as I did about ORSA,....my main problem.....as stated in another thread, was a customer service issue when inquiring about a purchase.

Again, welcome....and I hope this isn't a one issue visit and that you will be back!

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