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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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For all of us naysayers, myself included, I just got a brochure with the following address: Invicta CH S.A Route de l'hotel de ville 2 1344 L'Abbaye De Lac de Joux Vallee de Joux, Switzerland Fax: (021) 841-14-20 Anyone up for a road trip???:P |
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tny795 3T WIS 
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Group rates anyone? :D Tony Duronio wrote: For all of us naysayers, myself included, I just got a brochure with the following address: Last edited on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 06:59 pm by tny795 |
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CHEEPS 3T WIS 
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But do you still have the photo of the motel/restaurant which is ACTUALLY located at THAT address?:? I think I disposed of the file/photo long ago when the evidence became just too convincing. RandyG has the pic I bet!:P CHEEPS:dude: VOTE FOR TARRANCAPOLO |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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CHEEPS wrote: I Think they Gave the Night Mgr. a Lupah For Use of the Address  ...........................An LE No Doubt  But do you still have the photo of the motel/restaurant which is ACTUALLY located at THAT address?:? |
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RandyG 3T WIS 
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That is Claude Meylan aka Antigone, I believe. Thte uys that make S. Coifman.a brand created by Invicta Tony Duronio wrote: For all of us naysayers, myself included, I just got a brochure with the following address: |
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RandyG 3T WIS
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http://www.swisstime.ch/Index/Default.asp?BRAND_ID=96&CompanyFiles_Type_ID=1 Antigone is making the S Coifmans. All of these adresses are contractors. Would you really want Invicta making a watch. LOL |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS
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I knew you fella's would educate a sap like me:P:) |
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RandyG 3T WIS
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That is old news. I was looking at Claude Meylan's watch a couple of years ago and thought, man, those look like S Coifmans. I looked at the adress and you know the rest. ShopNBC sometimes puts, they used to anyway, a little note that you will get a cert from Antigone with an S Coifman. Claude Meylan is part of Antigone. It is run by a couple of women. Claude Meylan, BTW, is a reknowed watchmaker. He is a big time consultant to JLC. If he has anything to do with the S Coifman brand then they will be great watches. Anyone who has or is thinking about getting an S Coifman should be confident that they are getting a great watch. On the other hand they may be able to get it cheaper by getting a Claude Meylan. At least, every watch collector knows who he is and he is a real, live, talking person.:D You can tell that I did a little research on these. LOL Do a search on the internet. Tony Duronio wrote: I knew you fella's would educate a sap like me:P:) |
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Or Ology Guest
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RandyG wrote: That is old news. I was looking at Claude Meylan's watch a couple of years ago and thought, man, those look like S Coifmans. I looked at the adress and you know the rest. ShopNBC sometimes puts, they used to anyway, a little note that you will get a cert from Antigone with an S Coifman. Claude Meylan is part of Antigone. It is run by a couple of women. Claude Meylan, BTW, is a reknowed watchmaker. He is a big time consultant to JLC. If he has anything to do with the S Coifman brand then they will be great watches. Anyone who has or is thinking about getting an S Coifman should be confident that they are getting a great watch. On the other hand they may be able to get it cheaper by getting a Claude Meylan. At least, every watch collector knows who he is and he is a real, live, talking person.:D Check this out: http://www.thewatchmaker.com/ClaudeMeylan.html style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f8f8f8" |
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valjoux 3T WIS
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Claude Meylan is my best friend here in Switzerland. He has nothing at all to do with Claude Meylan watches anymore. He went bankrupt over 15 years ago and sold the brand and was completely shut out of the company. He now works at AP. The quality has plumetted at Claude Meylan Watches since he left. Just look at them. It's a shame his name is on them because he is a great watch maker. |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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valjoux wrote: Claude Meylan is my best friend here in Switzerland. He has nothing at all to do with Claude Meylan watches anymore. He went bankrupt over 15 years ago and sold the brand and was completely shut out of the company. He now works at AP. The quality has plumetted at Claude Meylan Watches since he left. Just look at them. It's a shame his name is on them because he is a great watch maker. Welcome Valjoux! I am wondering how they can still use legally his name...? ? Never saw any CM watch but I guess that you didn't give me temptation. Certainly disapointing to be in this situation for your friend... |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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valjoux wrote: Claude Meylan is my best friend here in Switzerland. He has nothing at all to do with Claude Meylan watches anymore. He went bankrupt over 15 years ago and sold the brand and was completely shut out of the company. He now works at AP. The quality has plumetted at Claude Meylan Watches since he left. Just look at them. It's a shame his name is on them because he is a great watch maker. You did notice this is a nearly 5 year old thread right? |
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ral 3T WIS
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Why would having an office in Switzerland mean anything, besides the fact of being able to afford it? I guess Invicta sell a s&#tload of watches every year, so do not think they would have an issue with the required money. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Welcome Valjoux but as Skip said...this thread has not been posted in since November 2005 and much can change in 5 years....since then we have learned that Invicta has no Swiss factory and that the address they used back then and probably now is used by many HongKong manufacturers and brands to get around the whole "Swiss Made" rulings...an address and telephone # is all that is needed....having a Swiss address lends some prestige to a brand name just like being located in Geneve....the heart of the Swiss watch community is the creme' de la creme of Swiss Watch addresses.... ..another interesting note that came to me recently is that the "Swiss Made" production rule/lable about final assembly and inspection must be made in Switzerland only pretains to the 1st 200 pieces in any model run...after that they can be built/assembled anywhere in the world....so if a brand like Invicta who mass produces watches your chance of getting a watch that says "Swiss Made" on the dial is more than likely a watch made entirely in China with a Swiss movement.coyote2.gif |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote:
Uh oh! Now this is really scary.  So I guess we need to still ask the questions: 1) where is it made and 2) where is it shipped from --- if ever we want to be sure about certain brands' output. This is vry important info, O. Thanks. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I wouldn't worry about any of the true Swiss brands and higher end watch companies we all know of that have actual facilities in Switzerland but I know I am staying from these companies who are suspect and mass produce watches like Invicta which brought this subject all up to begin with who have so called Swiss Made Limited Editions anywhere from production numbers up to 5000 . ..when I was told this about the 1st 200 only being held to the high Swiss standards my 1st reactions was No way!....and after a lengthy discussion with an AD and a Swiss watch co. rep I was convinced! I have a greater respect for the true Swiss companies like Tissot who are able to keep their pricing down and even many of our boutique brands that produce in small quantities like Kazimon,Dievas Benarus,Bali Ha'i and DWATCH who do produce some Swiss Made models and Made in Germany watches but in low production #'s that have to be cased and final inspection in Switzerland...hand6.gif |
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Nabco 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote: ..another interesting note that came to me recently is that the "Swiss Made" production rule/lable about final assembly and inspection must be made in Switzerland only pretains to the 1st 200 pieces in any model run...after that they can be built/assembled anywhere in the world....so if a brand like Invicta who mass produces watches your chance of getting a watch that says "Swiss Made" on the dial is more than likely a watch made entirely in China with a Swiss movement.coyote2.gif WOW, this is really interesting info...so if I read this right a company can have 200 watches made in Switzerland and the rest made in China and they can claim that they are all Swiss made....very interesting |
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