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jsb806f Guest
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Ok guys. I need your help making a decision between these two watches. I can't afford both so I am forced to choose. Any thoughts on which you think looks best and/or is the better investment? The Omega is going to run me about $400 more than the Oris. I'm prepared to spend what the Omega will cost but I'm not entirely convinced there is $400 difference between the two. Your input would be appreciated. Whatever I don't buy now will be on my short list in a black version.  Last edited on Fri Jun 29th, 2007 01:33 am by |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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Yes both are great but I actually like the Oris better. Something about the sleek design of the case. :) I have the TT1 Titan on a rubber strap and love it. ;) |
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srh_pres 3T WIS 
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While I like Oris, they cut down on the amount of lume on the indices, and am not crazy about the polished bracelet. However, the Seamaster you are showing is the quartz version. If it were the chronometer, I would say go for the Omega. Otherwise, I would go for the Oris (with the modified SW200 automatic movement).... imho, of course... hand6.gif |
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jsb806f Guest
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Skipdawg, What is the lume like on your Oris? I understand that the lume on the Seamaster is very good. |
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jsb806f Guest
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I'm actually trying to add fewer automatics to my collection so the fact that the Oris is an automatic is a negative for me. I know the automatic Omega has more cache but that's not important to me as I plan to keep the watch. Is there a specific problem with the Oris movement? |
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srh_pres 3T WIS
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There have been some problems with the stock SW200 movements that I have heard about in other watches - but Selitta seems to have corrected that. Am not sure what the modification Oris makes to the SW200, but perhaps one of our resident advisors can chime in on that one... If you prefer a quartz, then I would definitely go for the Omega. hand6.gif |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Yea so far I've stayed away fron watches with the SW200. Here is a shot of the Oris lume. ;) Attachment: orislume01.gif (Downloaded 61 times) |
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mcwright Admin 
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The Oris looks great, but the Omega has a more classy look. It is also most likely very comfortable to wear. I can't say I'd put that much into a quartz watch, but then people do it every day in jewelry stores. I really do like the look of the Omega if you want a quartz movement. Hopefully it comes with a 3-5 year or better battery. |
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mcwright Admin
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Skipdawg wrote: Yea so far I've stayed away fron watches with the SW200. How exactly does one know if there is an SW200 being used? Is it stamped somewhere? |
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srh_pres 3T WIS
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The LM-2 I just got has a new SW200 in it and so far is running +12 sec/day. It also hasnt shown any of the crown or winding issues (knock wood)... Skip, if your Oris is a newer one, it should have the ORIS 733/BASE SW200 movement?? Skipdawg wrote: Yea so far I've stayed away fron watches with the SW200. |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Mine has the Eta 2824-2 inside :) |
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srh_pres 3T WIS
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Cool... that would be the 633/Base 2824-2 which they changed over from in early 2006 I believe. How is it running? Skipdawg wrote: Mine has the Eta 2824-2 inside :) |
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Eric L. 3T WIS 
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I vote Oris, simply because you are less likely to see someone else wearing the same watch as you. If you can find an older Oris diver (from last year), I recommend that one over the newer Oris simply because the newer ones have less lume on the indices (its not a thin strip instead of the entire index). |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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srh_pres wrote: Cool... that would be the 633/Base 2824-2 which they changed over from in early 2006 I believe. How is it running? I have not checked since the first week but 3 days in a row next to my G-Shock it was only gaining about +8 seconds a day. :) |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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I've seen and handled both as CJ had a quartz Seamaster and curretnly has the Oris albeit on rubber. Having said that, his Oris is older and uses the ETA as its base caliber. For me, the Omega while a beautiful high quality piece, lose out because of my preference for automatics. I much prefer the auto version be it with the coaxial movement of an older model. However, if you are looking for quartz you won't be disappointed in any way shape of form with the Omega. Abundant lume, beautiful dial work... sexy case and bracelet. The Oris is extremely well built and operates as smooth as butter. CJ can verify, but I know this is one of his most accurate autos running at damn near chrnometer spec. I haven't seen a new Oris with the reduced lume and the SW200 base, so I cannot comment on its condition. The Oris for me is a bit off the beaten path and is an underrated value. I too am leery of the SW200 movements as I haven't had any actual experience with one and have heard the issues mentioned by Steve. Kind of a conundrum... In all honesty I don't think you can go wrong with either of these... |
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Matt V 3T WIS
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Just a few observations from my end; the Oris uses a non-standard lug width so you are stuck with their bracelet and straps and I found they charge quite a bit for those rubber straps (the old razor - razorblade story). I had bought mine from someone at the time who couldn't deal with the vanilla scent of the strap (I actually thought it was pleasant). Every watchmaker should be able to service them, however I don't know about availability of spare parts (bezel inlays, gaskets, crowns etc.). Hayek and The Swatch Group are driving Omega as a brand into a different direction. They introduced the co-axial escapement (allowing longer service intervals) while they are building up a service network the way Rolex did to make money on service and have started to cut off watchmakers from spare parts, so consumers will essentially be forced to go to Omega / TSG for service at some point in the future. For the time being, there are still parts in the channel (Ofrei etc.), but that sure will change. Also, Omega has started raising prices to position their watches higher and the TSG is limiting access to movements. From a business perspective, I admire Hayek for the game of chess he is playing here, but as a collector, I am worried about their monopoly. The Seamaster is a very nice watch, but there are issues which Omega tries to keep quiet. The GMT had some issues with the modification for their GMT/hour hand (infamouse "lagging" hour hand) and the Seamaster is notorious for the dials to be replaced during service because the markers (lume material) deteriorated due to moisture.   If you're not set on a brand name, there are many cool watches around $1K (especially pre-owned) and you might find it's fun to get one, experience it (and learn from it), flip it etc. etc. Sometimes the journey actually is the destination! :) Cheers Matt      |
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jsb806f Guest
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Now you have given me even more options. How is that supposed to help? :) Thanks for the very interesting and thought-provoking response. It does appear that you are a big fan of the Marcello brand given the number of pics. P.S.: Gorgeous pictures |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Yea those look good. That red bezel MarcelloC just pops! :D:cool: |
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jsb806f Guest
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Now that you have enabled us where does one get a red bezel Marcello? I don't see it on their site. |
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watchguru 3T WIS 
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I too have an Oris - It's a great watch... very reliable and exceptionally good looking. In a heads up competition between an auto Oris or an auto Omega, I'd pick the Omega hands down. But, since the Omega you've picked is quartz (and $400 more), I'd go with the Oris I think... |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Historically the Omega will hold it's value whether a quartz or auto compared to either the Oris or MarcelloC...I base this on personal experience and observation of the various sales forums over the yearswatch2.gif... so if it's a high end quartz you are longing for and a brand that is readily recognized by WIS and the average Joe I would go with the Omega imhohand6.gif |
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Gregger 3T WIS 
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: Historically the Omega will hold it's value whether a quartz or auto compared to either the Oris or MarcelloC...I base this on personal experience and observation of the various sales forums over the yearswatch2.gif... so if it's a high end quartz you are longing for and a brand that is readily recognized by WIS and the average Joe I would go with the Omega imhohand6.gif hand6.gifhand6.gif |
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watchguru 3T WIS
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: Historically the Omega will hold it's value whether a quartz or auto compared to either the Oris or MarcelloC...I base this on personal experience and observation of the various sales forums over the yearswatch2.gif... so if it's a high end quartz you are longing for and a brand that is readily recognized by WIS and the average Joe I would go with the Omega imhohand6.gif yeah - after reconsidering, i side with Oscar on this one... I think i initially went with the Oris because it was automatic and the Omega wasn't... but from a value standpoint, Omega is far superior - quartz or not. |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Man....... :D You guys need to stop with the great pics. :cool: Now you have me looking at the Omega Seamaster GMT all hot and bothered almost. Dag blasted enablers. Maybe a cold shower would work for this too. But shoot if I pull the trigger this will have to be a early B-day gift I guess. But still sitting on the fence. Thanks so much for starting this thread. LOL cat28.gif |
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KenC Admin 
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Never cared for Omega...I think the SW200 sucks until they prove they have corrected the problems...but that MarcelloC GMT is HOT! I'd go for that! |
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jsb806f Guest
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Skipdawg, Just think, another visit from the postman! :) Maybe you need your own private zipcode? |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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jsb806f wrote: Skipdawg, LOL :D to funny and your not the first to say that. And with my regular mail carrier. We have a new fella that ain't to sharp. Got to meet several of my neighbors again this week. Miss delivered mail. rev_smile.gif |
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OrologioPazzesco 3T WIS
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The Oris gets my vote. I like the simpler design, the shade of blue, and the wave design on the dial - magnificent - and less expensive too - By $1000.00! I found the Oris for $880.00 and the Omega for $1890.00 at 2000watches.com! You can apply your $1000.00 savings to yet another watch! Think how happy that would make your wife - a man who is a K-Mart shopper! LOL. Last edited on Mon Jul 2nd, 2007 11:57 am by OrologioPazzesco |
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jsb806f Guest
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Obviously spoken by a man who is not married! See The Book of Marriage, p. 34,215. LOL |
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OrologioPazzesco 3T WIS
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jsb806f wrote: Obviously spoken by a man who is not married! See The Book of Marriage, p. 34,215. LOL Alas...'tis true. I must answer only to my own conscience...Alas! LOL. |
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