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e.avery 3T WIS 
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Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 9mm full size, 9mm compact, and 45 tan frame From the preliminary range reports they all function flawlessly. There were problems with some of the weapons as there always is with new models, but the most variation was with the compact 9mm from what I understand. These are all new versions of the weapons the oldest being produced in November 07 and have apparently been updated. The pistols work in a very similar fashion as a Glock except the ergonomics are much more comfortable and the grip angle would much better fit most shooters. As most of the hand gun enthusiasts know the grip angle on the Glock is farther off of the 90 degree axis that is perpendicular to the plane of the barrel. All of the pistols are made in the USA and are going to be a force to be reckoned with in the near feature. Each pistole has a street price around $500 and comes with a $50 rebate and 2 additional free magazines, both of which are shipped to you in about 8 to 12 weeks.  |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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Avery those look and sound very nice. I may have to look into them. I have a old heavy Colt 45ACP and a Walther P90 40S&W but that looks like it could may be a replacement or addition. Really like the idea of a compact of that makeup. Thanks for posting. Would make for a few seconds faster reload than my 5 shot S&W 357. :cool: ;) |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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If you were looking into one make sure the sample fired case is as knew as possible, and never sell the old heavy Colt (1911's are one of my favorite range guns). Have a good one! |
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murphy j 3T WIS 
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But if you do sell that Colt, I call dibs:D. Those M&Ps are supposed to be some good shooting pistols. I just have a problem with all that plastic. Sometimes I can get past it, but most times I can't. Give me a good ol' fashioned metal frame in a proven platform(1911, Sig Sauer, Browning Hi-Power) any day of the week. Also the older S&W revolvers. |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Oh the Colt is not going anyplace. It was my grandfathers. :) |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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The 9mm compact has been in my sights but have yet to see them show up in any gun shops....I did recently add Pachmayr grips to my 92FS though and have some range time scheduled next week to see how they feelhand6.gif Attachment: Picture 005.jpg (Downloaded 40 times) |
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murphy j 3T WIS
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Skipdawg wrote: Oh the Colt is not going anyplace. It was my grandfathers. :) I understand completely, but just in case Buddy, just in case:). If you ever need some work on it I have a guy that specialises in 1911s. He was trained by Armand Swenson back in the 80s. I have 2 1911s built by this guy and my Gvt. model is the best shooting pistol I've ever had. He even has some vintage parts that he hoards for just that one old pistol that comes in from time to time. |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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That is one of the made in the US Beretta's I believe from looking at the dust cover. I would not suggest ever parting with that one O. Some friends of mine turned me onto a spring assembly that is made by Wolff that will greatly improve the reliability of that one. Here is the link http://www.gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/BerettaNF.html#TCU Full page of all of the springs offered for 92 by Wolff http://www.gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/BerettaNF.html#Beretta92 The only upgrade other than grips that I would trust my life on. Almost forgot CDNN has the sand resistant mag's for it for about $18 to $19 each, it may not be a bad thing to have on hand. They work better than all of the factory ones and it the blue base plate bothered you you could always just swap them out. http://www.cdnnsports.com/ |
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murphy j 3T WIS
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Oscar, while I'm not a big Beretta 92 fan, that is a VERY nice looking one. I do like the VERTEC version, it's much more comfortable in my hands. Also, you can NEVER go wrong with Wolff springs. They are to gun springs, what Rolex and Omega are to dive watches. They set the standard. I use Wolff springs in all my pistols. Good mags w/good springs are a must also. Wolff makes them for mags too. Last edited on Sat Mar 1st, 2008 01:03 pm by murphy j |
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Chick Hazzard 3T WIS 
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S&W finally has some decent polymer pistols. I hope they will dump that crappy SIGMA line they have been trying to sell for years. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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e.avery wrote: TY for the info E!...this one is the Italian made Beretta but I also own the Police issue U.S.A made as well....both are well made imo and depending on who you talk to some say the Italian is better other the U.S but I do like my U.S made 92 series better for some reason...I will look into the Wolff spring assembly but what about the magazines you were testing and showed me pics of the test facility....are they available...right now I am using the PB cal.9 para mags made in Italy...I will check out the CDNN'syourock.gif That is one of the made in the US Beretta's I believe from looking at the dust cover. I would not suggest ever parting with that one O. |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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I have 4 of the beretta's and 2 US made and 2 Italian, the best of all of them is the Police Special made in the US. The new ones made in Italia have plastic guide rods and triggers. They also have a slanted dust cover like this one. I would check on the year of manufacture when ordering parts, same as a car.  |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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murphy j wrote: Skipdawg wrote:Oh the Colt is not going anyplace. It was my grandfathers. :) I'll keep that in mind. I rarely shoot it yet clean it once a month anyway. My Grandfather gave it to me just weeks before he passed back in 1989. It was his brothers before him and saw action in the Korean war. Oscar nice Beretta there. hand6.gif |
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canadajo 3T WIS 
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Bought this 9 mm cause I like the brand and it was inexpensive (350) ....... Ruger has always been reliable  |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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Skip this my help you and your 1911 http://10-8performance.com/id8.html |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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e.avery wrote: Skip this my help you and your 1911 Cool Thanks hand6.gif |
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Norman 3T WIS 
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I've sold all but two of my handguns  which I regret, I still have my beloved SIG P-239 and a Ruger MKII competition .22. It would have to be dire times for me to part with either of them. |
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