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I am planning the next model and need your help for the dial colors.
Black, blue ,orange and yellow are usual but what about turquoise, green(kawasaki green) ,brown, red, violet or a BGW9(white color blue lume) full lume dial. What colors would you like to see or  accept for a dive watch  and which one are  NEVER EVER colors?
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BENARUS wrote: I am planning the next model and need your help for the dial colors.
Black, blue ,orange and yellow are usual but what about turquoise, green(kawasaki green) ,brown, red, violet or a BGW9(white color blue lume) full lume dial. What colors would you like to see or  accept for a dive watch  and which one are  NEVER EVER colors?
 Regards Ralf



Ralf,

Stick with the 4 primary colors. For a "tool" watch I dont think buyers want to get fancy. Orange and Yellow are real popular...just ask Keith at Boschett:D

Looks like y0u have a very nice product, continued success.

Tony

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the 4 staples are a given with me...black,blue,orange and yellow.....but a full lume dial that lumes blue would be nice to see and 1 I would be in forhand6.gif

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I agree with oscar that white dial that shows lume blue sounds cool.

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For me, as long as there is black, everything else is gravy.

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I see the 4 standard colors plus a BGW9 full lume dial seems to be a good combination thank you so far for the input.
Further opinions are very welcome.

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BENARUS wrote: I see the 4 standard colors plus a BGW9 full lume dial seems to be a good combination thank you so far for the input.
Further opinions are very welcome.


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That should work real well for you and most WIS. ;)

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I think a medium-dark gray might look good also.

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Here's how I'd do it... A good deep red to compliment your current blue line.

The dark gray and orange combo I originally wanted to go with is currently in-production at Enzo as a GMT model.

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While not a comment on dial colors, I would also consider toning down the size of the numerals, or maybe just show markers and no numbers.

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I am IN to solid black dial or dark gray...

 

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One thing I like about your current dial design is that you do have large numerals and clean, simple lines for the other markers—that separates your watch from the other lines that use the same case.

If you had just used all markers, you'd be too close to an Enzo, (for me at least), to warrant buying one, since I already own an Enzo V001.

As for Schaumburg watches, they are packed with ornate numerals, making for a very "busy" look, much different than your current simple and clean layout.

I'm looking forward to wearing my Barracuda #17!watch2.gif

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Dark grey is in planning for a titanium model, but think it will be a different case. black dial with orange minute hand or brushed silver???

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JDBuckwell wrote: One thing I like about your current dial design is that you do have large numerals and clean, simple lines for the other markers—that separates your watch from the other lines that use the same case.

If you had just used all markers, you'd be too close to an Enzo, (for me at least), to warrant buying one, since I already own an Enzo V001.

As for Schaumburg watches, they are packed with ornate numerals, making for a very "busy" look, much different than your current simple and clean layout.

I'm looking forward to wearing my Barracuda #17!watch2.gif

I agree. Like the dial with the four big numbers as shown.

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Lume dial would be a great choice. Prefer not to have lume on the hands though. Rather they be solid black with black numbers and markers. :)

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mcwright wrote: Lume dial would be a great choice. Prefer not to have lume on the hands though. Rather they be solid black with black numbers and markers. :)

Agree 100% on this. hand6.gif

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I also prefer hands without lume, but will wait for the drawings how they look in skeleton or massive , black numbers and markersThumbsUp02.gif

 this time without lume ring  so the dial will appear bigger

I would like to stay by the size of the numerals but lets wait for the drawing

I will stay by the numerals but also keep the dial clean, not to busy.

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Lume shot (but with the chapter ring). I believe the dial is plenty big, and I like how the markers don't float, but actually bleed into the ring.

Yes... Photoshop is my "jungle-gym"

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I believe Ralf is working on a whole new design for these colors and not the Barracuda which we have a pre-order list going on at $399. and a great buy imho as it has some great features and accessories the others who use this case do not....I got my order inyahoo.gif

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Unless I've missed something , there has only been mention of the upcoming titanium model possibly having a different case.

Regardless, I concur with "the big O"... the current Barracuda offering looks like a great deal, for which I'm looking forward to strapping-on #17 from this LE! ThumbsUp02.gif

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I'm with you guys.  I await #52 and look forward to my first 1000m diver.

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Who the hell would ever buy a watch with a lime green dial???


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See... A 16th Inf. Bandido isn't afraid of a unique dial color! A bold, unique chroma can truly set a watch apart!ThumbsUp02.gif

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I think I have red  the best visible color combination   under water is turquoise and purple. But I cannot remember where. Does anybody know?
 

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Maybe we should make a green TIMETECHTALK edition

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Great jobThumbsUp02.gif, I think I also have to learn to work with photoshop, can you also make blue lume?
I hope I get the new drawings from the new case this week, so I can post them  and hear your opinions.

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Lume shot (but with the chapter ring). I believe the dial is plenty big, and I like how the markers don't float, but actually bleed into the ring.

Yes... Photoshop is my "jungle-gym"

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I LIKE THIS COLOR IT VERY MUCH
 

But I have to order minimum 100 pcs each dial color and can I sell 100 pcs???


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Who the hell would ever buy a watch with a lime green dial???



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JDBuckwell wrote: See... A 16th Inf. Bandido isn't afraid of a unique dial color! A bold, unique chroma can truly set a watch apart!ThumbsUp02.gif

Even had this one for awhile!


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BENARUS wrote:
Great jobThumbsUp02.gif, I think I also have to learn to work with photoshop, can you also make blue lume?
I hope I get the new drawings from the new case this week, so I can post them  and hear your opinions.

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Here's the blue lume shot you requested Ralf.

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Rolf...I think you could especially if it was a lume dial...I don't know how many of these dials Stowa made, but the sold them out in a heartbeat....faster than their melon and maroon dials.

 

BENARUS wrote:
I LIKE THIS COLOR IT VERY MUCH
 

But I have to order minimum 100 pcs each dial color and can I sell 100 pcs???


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Who the hell would ever buy a watch with a lime green dial???




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Personally I would stick to the main color choices at first. Make sure your quality control is tops. Focus on quality. You already have a good price point. I think the Stowa Pro-Diver is unique in the dial color choices available.

I think the main choices are black, blue, yellow, orange, and also silver!!

There is no harm in going wild but since you must order 100 I would be careful. Build up your client base by producting one good product. Too many companies get caught up in offering too much choice without paying attention to detail.

I would never own a green diver. Maybe for fun but it would never be a keeper. That is just me. I owned a Pink Stowa Seatime and it was a great watch.

I will also mention what makes the Stowa line of watches so successful. First their history, second is the build quality, third is the lume. Stowa produces an incredibly well made product at a reasonable price and delivers a great dive watch. I can read it at night easy, it is accurate and has one heck of a well made case and bracelet.

If you can match the quality build, attention to detail, and lume then you will have a winning product. Choice is always fun to throw into the mix.

Rob

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Great input Robzilla!

Keeping on the marketability aspect for just a bit... I add this (from a professional POV, as I deal with this subject all day... every day):

When I work with my clients on strategic marketing of their products, three main factors ALWAYS are in play:

1. Quality (as Robzilla so aptly noted)
2. Uniqueness against the competition (limited editions, packaging, and dial/hands/marker colors and layout, falls into this category)
3. Price competitiveness

The trick is to illuminate the strongest marketing factors you have—especially if you are using a common case/bezel design in the market, and capitalize on the "weak-spots" within the market (ie: unique dial colors.)

If marketed properly, there should be no problem moving 100 units using any of the above mentioned strategic marketing points. hand6.gif

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Sorry...I thought it went unsaid that without proper marketing...the best product in the world at the lowest price possible would go unnoticed and unsold!

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Trust me Ken... You'd be surprised.

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I would say stick with Black, Blue, Orange and Yellow. yourock.gif  Maybe even make and 2nd Black, Blue, Orange and Yellow version without the carbon fiber dials.

 

Thanks,

 

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The blue lume is sharp, thank you very muchthankyou.gif



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BENARUS wrote:
Great jobThumbsUp02.gif, I think I also have to learn to work with photoshop, can you also make blue lume?
I hope I get the new drawings from the new case this week, so I can post them  and hear your opinions.

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Here's the blue lume shot you requested Ralf.

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I have decided to take black, blue, orange, yellow and lume.  But this time not carbon.

 The exotic colors are still in my head, but you are right the first thing is quality.
I own several Enzos and O7 and the quality of the sample is the same like these.
The factory did a good job by Enzo, O7 and Schaumburg, thats why I trust in them and I am sure the customers will be satisfied.
 First I thought I start my first edition with a black dial.
Maybe it would be more easy to sell a black one , because not everybody likes blue carbon, but on the other hand there are already a lot of black on the market so big competition.
Now about 50 are sold so I think blue was a good decision.

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BENARUS wrote: I have decided to take black, blue, orange, yellow and lume.  But this time not carbon.

 The exotic colors are still in my head, but you are right the first thing is quality.
I own several Enzos and O7 and the quality of the sample is the same like these.
The factory did a good job by Enzo, O7 and Schaumburg, thats why I trust in them and I am sure the customers will be satisfied.
 First I thought I start my first edition with a black dial.
Maybe it would be more easy to sell a black one , because not everybody likes blue carbon, but on the other hand there are already a lot of black on the market so big competition.
Now about 50 are sold so I think blue was a good decision.

 

I think this is a great ideal. hand6.gif    I think it would be easier to sell a non-carbon dial version of this watch.  I look forward to seeing the new models. woohoo.gif

 

Matt


 

 

 

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If memory serves Ralf, yellow is the last color visable at depth.

BENARUS wrote:
I think I have red  the best visible color combination   under water is turquoise and purple. But I cannot remember where. Does anybody know?
 


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i would love to see a match for my SeaRambler. nice deep shiny silver with orange or red accents on the minute hand.

cant wait for number 74 to arrive.

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If blue-green or tourqoise came out I would buy it immediately .... teal is okay also

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Here are the new colors,  turquoise is still in my mind but not this time

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I like that orange...it is not so vivid...more like the Stowa "melon" color!

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Dark gray or tan.

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dark gray will come in titanium version

I am rooikat wrote: Dark gray or tan.

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Doxa did "Major" research back in the 60's for deep dive color and It was Orange is most visibleWillieboy wrote: If memory serves Ralf, yellow is the last color visable at depth.

BENARUS wrote:
I think I have red  the best visible color combination   under water is turquoise and purple. But I cannot remember where. Does anybody know?
 



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But I love that white dial all lume, just too sporty!


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