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Dingo 3T WIS 
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Any chance Benarus will reissue the Barracuda? I understand that it was a limited edition, but they could offer it with a different color dial and call it the Barracuda 2. It just seems like there is unmet demand out there for this watch (I want one) and Benarus should try to profit from that demand. After all, Benarus is in the business of making money. Plus if Benarus can pad the coffers selling an existing model, that leaves more $$ for design and development of new models. |
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TopGun 3T WIS
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I for one am in agreement with you. I think there is enough demand for Barracuda Part II. IMHO, I seriously doubt this one will be revisited. Those who still have one know how special of a timepiece they have, and to find one for sale is very rare and hard to come by. When one is for sale, it does not last long. |
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Parabola 3T WIS 
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I can't imagine existing Barracuda owners will be in favour of this, no one wants to buy a limited edition only for it to be come a regular model. I for one fell it wouldn't be in favour as I think it would be an affront to the original purchasers who took a gamble on a new brand. If you really want one they do occasionally come up on the sales fora particularly WuS |
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Stu65 3T WIS
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Being the owner of Barracuda #2 (pre-owned) i for one would not be in favour of this as it took me a while to find one and was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time and it was the same situation for my TF Dreadnought found at a watch fair and credit to Eddie Platts that even though demand was high for a re-issue he stuck to his guns and refused on the grounds that it was a limited edition and he did not want to take that away from the owners of the Dreadnought and i would hope that Ralf and Steve would see it the same way. Besides confidence in the brand would probably drop if re-issues of existing watches went into production as that would make the limited edition a bit pointless and the brand would be seen doing an Omega. Just my thoughts. Stu. |
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village 3T WIS 
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IMHO definitely not....if a company issue a ltd editon it should stay that way. If they decide at a later date to 'extend' the run and therefore dilute the LE aspect of it then why would anyone pay for one to start with? There is no confidence in the company. Like Parabola says,keep an eye out on the sales forums..... |
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Nabco 3T WIS 
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I'm a little torn on this...I own two Barracudas including a prototype PVD version...if this was an LE and cost $5K then I would be a little more concerned ..... but that is not what the Barracuda is...I would love to see a new release with maybe a red dial...I would buy that in a second....Just MHO... |
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pallet spoon Guest
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Nabco wrote: I'm a little torn on this...I own two Barracudas including a prototype PVD version...if this was an LE and cost $5K then I would be a little more concerned ..... but that is not what the Barracuda is...I would love to see a new release with maybe a red dial...I would buy that in a second....Just MHO... Yeah, you would have to change some major element of it ... and the dial is probably a good place to do that. If you were just gonna put some diffetent marks on the dial or just change the hand color I guess I would be a little put off as an original Barracuda owner. |
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TopGun 3T WIS
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I do not own a Barracuda, but I agree with the ones who do. I would not want to see a remake with the blue carbon fiber dial. If there was any chance, and this is a BIG if, I would like to see a different dial color, to distinguish the difference between the two. But in all honesty, I don't think it's going to happen. |
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Dingo 3T WIS
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Nabco wrote: I'm a little torn on this...I own two Barracudas including a prototype PVD version...if this was an LE and cost $5K then I would be a little more concerned ..... but that is not what the Barracuda is...I would love to see a new release with maybe a red dial...I would buy that in a second....Just MHO... That is exactly my point. I would think that current Barracuda owns would welcome the opportunity to add a red or yellow or green Barracuda to their collection. There wouldn’t be any confusion with the original Barracuda and the value of those watches wouldn’t decrease. I find it hard to believe that a true WIS would oppose the opportunity to add another quality time piece to their collection. This would be good for Benarus and watch collectors. Seems like a win-win proposition to me. |
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T3isMe 3T WIS
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I was lucky enough to get my hands on a #59 Barracuda (pre-owned but looking spanking new). I love it and it is the favorite watch in my small collection. Nonetheless, I don't consider it any more a limited edition than the Sea Devil or Moray. Yes, the number produced was smaller but when you are talking about 100 produced versus several hundred produced, the difference IMHO is academic. Everyone who owns a Benarus has a limited edition watch because the number of watches produced is so small compared to the older companies such as Seiko, Omega, etc. I for one would love to have a Barracuda II. Imagine red carbon fiber, green carbon fiber, or even purple carbon fiber. These would be gobbled up!! |
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TopGun 3T WIS
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A different color carbon fiber dial would be awesome, and I for one am in favor. However, I don't know if there's enough interest. This thread ahs been up for quite awhile now. You would think it would have drawn more attention ,which is why I say this may not happen. It would be a good idea to hear from Ralph/Steve and get their input. |
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orangecanes 3T WIS 
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I'm "ALL In" for anoter Barracuda! |
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lincolnunit 3T WIS 
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I don't want to start a raging inferno; but I think there is a fair amount of hope that this may happen, perhaps due to other watch companies actually 'selling out' and producing an extension of a 'limited edition'. Benarus would indeed lose a considerable amount of credibility amongst their current and potential customers to 're-issue' a watch that was destined for only 100 production limit. Where would the fun in pre-ordering or finding a deal on a limited edition watch be with the fear that a company would somehow add to the final tally by changing a minor design issue such as a dial face? It's true; I own a Barracuda, but the 'joy' for me would be actually find one of the 100 in a long search rather than pray for the company to extend their run by a minor design change, and easily purchase it that way. |
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T3isMe 3T WIS
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lincolnunit wrote: I don't want to start a raging inferno; but I think there is a fair amount of hope that this may happen, perhaps due to other watch companies actually 'selling out' and producing an extension of a 'limited edition'.I see your point but I disagree that changing the dial color is a minor change. For example, a red carbon fiber Barracuda would look very different from the original. |
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lincolnunit 3T WIS
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Changing a dial color would require very little alterations to the original design of the watch, hence, 'minor'. Changing the bezel, bracelet or even the crystal shape would require many stages in the manufacturing process and would be even cause to call the watch by another name. However, a dial color change would change the appearance of the watch aesthetically without any significant modifications to the actually CAD design of the watch. I guess I'm not really in favor of a 'second run' of these watches with another dial color. It took me forever to find mine second hand from another forum member. How about the ability to have existing owners choose another dial color...how's that for a logistical nightmare for Benarus? :shock: And yes, a variance in dial colors would look smokin'! Can't filibuster that fact! :cool: |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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there are many watch manufacturers if not all that issue Limited Editions in various dial colors and it does not detract anything from the fact that they are LE's...there are 100 blue CF dialed Barracudas...that's it and no more to be made....so if Ralf were to issue another 100 in a radiant silver dial version for example that would not take anything away from the original blue hand6.gif |
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lincolnunit 3T WIS
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Dingo wrote: The idea that it would be wrong for Benarus to issue the Barracuda with a new dial or it would some how cheap the blue dial Barracuda is silly. Below is a list I copied from Gigfy of the Orsa Sea Angler. Has the value of the lume dial model or silver surfer plummeted because Orsa offered the Sea Angler with an orange dial? Of course not! Nobody considers Orsa a sell-out because it has offered several limited edition Sea Anglers. I hate to say it, but the current Barracuda owners that are opposed to the idea of offering the Barracuda with another colored dial sound selfish. Dingo, if I could, what is selfish about a product that was sold as a LIMITED EDITION expected to be just that? Not to compare 'apples and oranges' but even in publishing when a book has a second print run it is so numbered (but is NOT sold as a LIMITED EDITION) as a second edition and so on. I would think that it's really a little 'bait and switch' when a product is sold out, and it is re-offered with a slight variance. As I previously threaded, I missed out on the initial 100, and had to cruise and lose on multiple forums to finally find a used Barracuda for a decent price. Adding another run with a different color is the same watch [name], regardless of the beauty of the watch. Variety is fine for a watch color (as long as they are initially sold that way (as Invicta often does), but that design is over as soon as 'limited edition is stamped on the case back...coyote2.gif |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Lincoln I believe you have the wrong conception of what a LE is in the watch world!....if what you say would be true Hublot,AP,Panerai and many other watch companies would have long since gone out of business because they use the same case over and over with different dials and they are still Limited Editions!...the the Hublot Big Bang series has at least a dozen different dials available in the exact same case and each one is a LE and no one is complaining....these are watches that start at $15,000.00 :D ...take some time and do some research....those who want a Blue CF will still hunt for one...that is part of the excitement of this hobby....once you have some years in you will begin to understand hand6.gif ...and Invicta  |
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Nabco 3T WIS
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I have a question for those that currently own a Barracuda and are against a reissue.... When you purchased your Cuda as an LE, did you purchase it because it was an LE or because it was an awesome looking watch? If you purchased it as an LE was the reasoning that at some point in time it will sky rocket in value, or you wanted something that you would never see anyone else wearing? If your thinking was it would sky rocket in value even if it increase 200% it is still only a $1,000 watch, I don't think you can retire on that....and if you really love the watch, why would you sell it in the first place. Let's say it was purchased for the second reason and you wanted something that you would never see anyone else wearing....my response to that is get real....these watches are sold worldwide, even if there were 2,000 of them produced your chances of seeing another one are pretty slim. And finally, it's not a secret that the Cuda case is actually a Longio catalog case, and IMO so what, my guess is this watch would have been MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE if it was not a catalog case, it is still one of my top 5 favorite watches in my collection. IMO the reason the Cuda is special is because of Ralf, because he is a friend, because he takes our suggestions to heart, and because his QA and CS are second to none....I believe anyone can buy that case any time they want to, but any other watch produced in that case would not be the same. So in summary I would love for Ralf to release another version of the Cuda, maybe with a 2824 movement and a cool red fiber dial or the dial on Oscars 1K....my guess is it would sell out like hotcakes!!! |
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T3isMe 3T WIS
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Nabco wrote: I have a question for those that currently own a Barracuda and are against a reissue....Well said. I am an owner of a #59 'Cuda and have no problems with Ralf releasing another version. All I care about is having a cool watch on my wrist. I own some Seikos that I love and I don't love them any less because they are mass produced. |
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joecb 3T WIS 
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I understand the stance of the guys who bought into the LE version looking for the exclusivity and therefoe oppose a re-issue. however, I do not own one and do admire the design and would like to see a similar but different version. Not changing the overall case, bracelet or bezel, but perhaps dial change, different colors, etc. enough to make it the "Barracuda II" version, and would appeal to all, current owners and prospective new owners. IMHO  |
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Dingo 3T WIS
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hjames987 wrote: A silver dial similar to your 1of1 LE 1km in the Barracuda case would be nice to have! I don't believe I've ever seen silver colored carbon fiber. It would be interesting to see what that would look like. |
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lincolnunit 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: Lincoln I believe you have the wrong conception of what a LE is in the watch world!....if what you say would be true Hublot,AP,Panerai and many other watch companies would have long since gone out of business because they use the same case over and over with different dials and they are still Limited Editions!...the the Hublot Big Bang series has at least a dozen different dials available in the exact same case and each one is a LE and no one is complaining....these are watches that start at $15,000.00 :D Uh-oh. It should be clear to all that I'm having a bit of a 'spat' and that I am being centered in that I am against a re-issue of a type of watch regardless of it being a Hublot or even a Timex. But I am not being stubborn in this position. What research is necessary to be aware of when a re-issue of something that is a 'limited edition' is clearly false? To say that it's okay to re-issue something just because you may want a part of the original magic is somewhat more centered than I am griping about. It's a low-blow to assume that I will understand once 'I have some years in'; what experience is necessary in this hobby to understand the claim of 'limited edition'? I am not beefing Benarus for emblazoning 'limited edition' on their watches; I am griping about the clear-cut agreements from most that think it's 'okay' to re-issue a watch with no intention of crying 'foul', as I am. My point is not to say that another issue of the Barracuda wouldn't look smokin'; but at what point do we, as watch aficionados, cry 'foul' at a dreamed (or very REAL with other watch brands) re-issue just because we have our own ideas of how much better a design would look with some variance? Maybe I missed the point, then.  Paul D. |
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romeo-1 3T WIS 
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Personally, if I had purchased a Limited to 100 Barracuda I would be somewhat miffed at a re-issue...in any dial color. Just my 2 cents! |
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DM71 3T WIS 
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Nabco wrote: I have a question for those that currently own a Barracuda and are against a reissue....+1hand6.gif |
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MMCGINN 3T WIS 
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I own a Barracuda (No. 24) and I would have no problem with a reissue with a different dial color. Ralf has said if he changes the blue dial it would no longer be called the Barracuda. The blue fish was the name inspiration for the Barracuda. So if there was reissue it would have a different dial and name. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS 
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MMCGINN wrote:I own a Barracuda (No. 24) and I would have no problem with a reissue with a different dial color. Ralf has said if he changes the blue dial it would no longer be called the Barracuda. The blue fish was the name inspiration for the Barracuda. So if there was reissue it would have a different dial and name. This is correct, the Barracuda is blue and a different dial color with that case would probably not be called a Barracuda. At this time we do not have a plan to use the Barracuda case again, it is used by other watch companies and not exclusive to Benarus. In the future we are going to design a new case that will be our own unique design that will be a "tool diver" that fits into the same category as the Sea Devil and the Barracuda. This is not something we are working on right now because of how busy things are right now with the Moray being completed and shipped, the Megalodon series 1 gearing up for production as well as the GMT and the future GMT Auto. But it will be something for us to make in 2010. To answer the questions about reusing a case with a new series, we will reuse the Megalodon case for a series 2. We will also do this with any case that we can design and build to be exclusive to Benarus. The future series would have different dial colors, or even designs, but the case can't be changed so often. Also, sticking with a case design creates brand recognition, which is "the case" with Rolex subs, Panerai, and Hublot to name a few, all producing Limited Editions in the same case, year after year, with little if any modifications to the case design. Regards, Steve Laughlin Last edited on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 12:37 pm by Steve Laughlin |
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T3isMe 3T WIS
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Thanks for the reply, Steve. As an owner of a Barracuda, my dream would be to have one in red, yellow, green, purple, or any other vibrant color of carbon fiber besides blue to add to my collection. If not for 2010, hopefully for 2011!Bouncy.gif |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Thanks for your ideas. we are listening and talking about what should come next! |
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Ronin1111 3T WIS 
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To quote a 2 year old "NO!! NO NONONONO !! MINE!! Sorry, but as a proud and ORIGINAL owner of barracuda #85. and being a long time collector (albeit not super expensive watches) Part of the allure for me was really getting a watch that less than 101 people in the world will own. It was very exciting for me. and when I do wear it out and about, and get compliments and offers to buy it, i get very proud that i am one of only a handful of original owners. Put a red carbon dial on it, make the hands another color. leave the rest the same,... just dont call it a barracuda. or LE. Please. Even limited edition Doxas are still made in quantities of over 250. 500. etc. Seriously, how many watch companies do you know that create a really , really nice watch and ONLY sell it in under 100 piece quantities? I SAY NEIN!!  |
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