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| Posted: Sat Dec 25th, 2010 04:51 am |
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movas 3T WIS
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Hi guys, Here are additional pictures of the watch on the wrist.    Regards, Sean
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| Posted: Sat Dec 25th, 2010 09:36 am |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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That looks really good, Sean. Looks like a tough one.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30th, 2010 09:58 pm |
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afc14284 3T WIS 
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Interesting designs, you can tell that the founder really put some thoughts on it.. don't know if I would buy one though
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| Posted: Tue Feb 1st, 2011 11:27 am |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Latest updates,news and pics of the moVas divers....it's a shame Sean is getting blasted on other forums for being upfront and keeping his customers in the loop whether it is good news or bad...he could have easily taken another route like a few other watch vendors who blame the factory without any info or pics for delays as much as a couple years and longer! ....most of us have been around awhile and understand that watch making is not always and exact science and problems along with delays are expected,especially when dealing with new Asian movements and ground up designs such as the moVas. ...the prototypes need work but that is why you get protos ,to do the necessary adjustments and improvements before the final product is ready to ship. ....TY for the info Sean and keep on doing what you are...I look forward to seeing what you come up with and I am sure there are many WIS on 3T who understand and may even have some ideas that can help. Hi Folks, Another delivery date came and went, but as you shall see, it's not all to waste. This will likely be the second last update for the divers, hopefully the last one will just be a short message to tell you guys things are ready to ship! We just came back from HK where we did the QC ourselves because I feel this is the only way to address all the issues that are required for a watch like this. I now understand why people stick with non complications for their watches and recycle very simple case designs. The pictures are attached to the e-mail and posted up at oceanictime: http://oceanictime.blogspot.com/2011/01/movas-divers-collection.html. Here are the latest round of features/ updates/ errors: 1) Movement - There has been very little written about this movement, well basically because it's new and Seagull themselves don't have much literature on it! - The GMT hand cannot be set independently, hence it's just a 24H display and not a two time zone movement. - The date window is very very small, and as such there is a magnifying glass over the movement which cannot be removed. This poses an issue with viewing the date because of glare. This can't be avoided because the glass is integral with the top plate. - The movement is hackable. - The seconds hand sweep is exceptionally smooth, so much so that it sometimes looks like it has stopped. 2) Case - The crown was designed as screw down. However, with the crown protector, it can also be kept closed by the crown protector without screwing down. Naturally the WR isn't the same, we haven't tested what WR will be with the crown protector closed without screwing down. But it is definitely a handy feature for day to day wear. - There are some alignment issues with the case/ lug, but simple to resolve. - Unfortunately the bezel markings can't be lumed. The pip will be changed as the samples didn't have it as C3. - The blasted case shines relatively easily, especially at the bracelet links. But this is a common occurrence with blasted finishes. - The pusher (which is actually for the date adjust), is almost impossible to DLC coat. So we will leave the pusher as stainless steel finished. Otherwise it will scratch too easily each time you adjust the date. - The domed glass in the sample is not AR coated. Final production will be AR coated internally. 3) Dial - You may not notice but the indexes are not C3 Superluminova like we specified. So the hands are a slight greenish tint whereas the indexes are not! Off they go to the dial factory again to be refinished..... it's crazy. - Otherwise the sandwich is deep and everything else is in order. - There is actually a very very small slit for the PR hand to slide along and the movement plate can be seen through it as being silver in colour. We will paint this portion black. 4) Hands - The PR hand is not C3, this makes an inconsistent tint to the hands. The orange outline for the Minute hand is also incomplete, and we noticed that the sides of the hands were orange instead of black.... - All the GMT hands are skeletonised. Previous sample triangle was solid, and we redid them. I changed the design of the red GMT hand, and I think it looks better the way it is shown. - We will be redoing the sub sec hand for the orange Professional Diver. It will be redone as being half lumed and half orange. As the seconds hand is an important feature of a dive watch, we felt this was necessary for the 'professional' diver. 5) Rubber straps - Well, since we had some time, we experimented with multiple compounds and finally came up with a compound that was a mixture of isoprene. - It is salt water resistant and hypo allergenic. It is a very similar compound to what is being used by 'isofrane'. 6) Buckle - The moVas buckle design is finished and I will show those in a separate update. We have them in blasted/ brushed/ black brushed/ black blasted to match all the cases we have. That's about it for the update, hope I've covered all the bases. The factories are all closed for Chinese New Year. Production will resume for all the above items, naturally delivery is delayed again. Final update will include final delivery date (which I expect to be close to end of March to be on the safe side). Regards, Sean     Attachment: moVas AG Diver 01.JPG (Downloaded 127 times)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 1st, 2011 04:26 pm |
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movas 3T WIS
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Hi Oscar, Thank you for your kind words. What can I say, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. What all those people on WUS don't hear is how I just spent 3 days of my own money flying up to HK to bang my head against the wall when visiting the factories. They also don't see how we have spent more and more money sinking it into this project redoing things when alot of the factories do not admit to their faults. Sure I could have really told them the truth that when we were at seagull they assured us numerous times that the movement was a true GMT. But nevertheless I still feel that I should have ordered a sample of the movement to test out myself. Mind you, even the sample we saw at seagull didn't have the cyclops on the date, and it was only present in production... All I hear on that forum is how I showed slight frustration in listening to people trying to validate their own decisions for not getting on the pre-order and trying to dissuade others to get off it, ask for a refund or ask for free items. Anyways I do not wish to drag that discussion out because it's just a mud slinging contest with to logic with people who do not care for the watch or brand in the first place. I think I am very very very fortunate to have a majority of the customers understand the situation and realistically there hasn't been as many who have canceled their order as I had expected. Even so, rest assured I am not going to back down, and will persevere in what I do. We have started to search for a true GMT movement and will come out with a new version with a revised dial layout. Those still on the pre-order will be offered this as an option (although it will be a slightly longer wait). Otherwise they can add this new watch to their order for only USD150. I will update everyone on this new design once everyone returns from Chinese New Year. Here's wishing 3T and all it's members Gong Xi Fa Cai! Regards, Sean
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| Posted: Tue Feb 1st, 2011 11:29 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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hang in their Sean...you're not the 1st who has been in this situation and you won't be the last...how you are handling the matter speaks volumes imo...I don't understand how anyone could be upset for you being upfront and truthful,especially by those who were not even on the pre-order ..as you said"damned if you do damned if you don't". ...the offer of adding another watch to those who did pre-order for $150. speaks volumes as far as commitment and customer service...way beyond what anyone else would do imho...it also tells me you may not even break even when the final product is finished and delivered and that is something WIS rarely, if ever see...TY!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 2nd, 2011 12:45 pm |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote: hang in their Sean...you're not the 1st who has been in this situation and you won't be the last...how you are handling the matter speaks volumes imo...I don't understand how anyone could be upset for you being upfront and truthful,especially by those who were not even on the pre-order ..as you said"damned if you do damned if you don't". 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 2nd, 2011 04:29 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Sean imo you could just remove the GMT hand from the original run and that would work fine for me...especially on the AG Divers and use them on the new model once you find a suitable GMT movement...
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| Posted: Thu Feb 3rd, 2011 06:47 am |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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sean, hang in there. What happened to you at that forum is unfortunate and uncalled for. But here, you are among gentlemen. Wishing you the best for the brand. 
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| Posted: Mon Feb 7th, 2011 01:31 pm |
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MrMayface 3T WIS
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I really need to start coming in here a little more often. I see that I'm a week late on this issue. I have two of the moVas divers preordered, and none of the issues that Sean has discussed has me worried. I'm glad that he isn't just rushing out something just to meet a self imposed deadline. Folks are rushing me out to lunch right now, but I'll just chime in some more later.
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