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james Henderson Guest
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Hello 3T! I spoke with Berg earlier today, and we have a possible solution to help "put some wheels" under this project and get it moving. We have between 30 - 50 of the black dials that were used in the black orsa run of earlier run this year. In addition, we also have cases, crowns, everything that we need ALREADY! If we can get our hands on enough ETA ebauches, we would be ready to roll. Here is what we would do: Take the original black dials, have a 3T logo applied, and then have it "re-lumed" to create a green lume effect for the hour/minute markers. We would do the same with the hour and minute hands. Because we already have these supplies, we would not have to special order anything, thus keeping the cost down, and so long as we could lay hands to enough ebauches, we could have this entire project done quickly - maybe as early as Christmas. I NEED TO STRESS - this is assuming that we can get the ebauches and that we have enough orders. We could run as small a number as few as 25 or so (more expensive), and MAYBE as many as 50 (less expensive), but this is depending upon our ability to lay hands to enough of the black dials - we will need to do a final head count. ALSO - these would be assembled in the US, NOT in Swizerland. The upside of this is a quicker turn-around, and a slightly higher quality than the earlier versions. It SHOULD also mean a fair certainty that we can lock in a lower price than if we had to do the whole thing from scratch. It does mean that in terms of a full-on new dial design, etc. it would have to wait for a later run. Please let me know what you think of this option. Your friend at Orsa - James Henderson |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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james Henderson wrote: James speaking for myself I believe You are hitting the Right Buttons Now!!! I would be all for this 3T Orsa LE ! ....it makes sense to keep costs down by using existing materials and just adding the 3T LE markings...I would be very Happy :)...TY Buddy for making this Happen...You know how much I appreciate Your Generosity and Involvement on this Project  I know the Watch and It's Amazing Quality...I don't know how you keep them at $425. the Way it is.....It has the Look and Feel of a Watch that costs much more imho hand6.gifhand6.gif Hello 3T! |
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KenC Admin 
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: james Henderson wrote: |
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nrg 3T WIS 
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Sounds like we're well on our way to having a 3T watch!! Thanks for the help and info James. I'm in!! |
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daanbc 3T WIS 
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Like I said before- Yesssss I want one! I was contemplating on purchasing a used black orsa, then this LE 3T came up. So I waited. Now Im in the stage of selling off some of my nonwrist time pieces to make room and some $$$ for this LE orsa. |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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I am trying to picture this in my mind. Would the relume create a substantial "green effect"? Perhaps the 3T logo should be a similar green to bring the effect out and give it some pop. Sincere thanks for the fast track as i believe I am deserving of a Christmas present for myself... This is really a wonderful opportunity for all of us> Many thanks to Orsa!! Cheers, Pax Last edited on Wed Sep 6th, 2006 11:49 pm by Paxman |
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canadajo 3T WIS 
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I am trying to visualize this and it seems awesome....please mark me as "IN" |
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james Henderson Guest
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Hello again everyone! Okay - it looks like we've got some motion going. I saw an earlier scan with a black dial, logo and green effect? We are thinking of a limited run 33 pieces. This means that we would need 25 pre-orders. Berg is consulting the supplies to ensure that we will have everything that we will need, and confirm pricing. We will be back to all of you shortly. Your friend at Orsa - James Henderson |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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HooRAHH!! |
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yamahaki Guest
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I'm in for one, two if needed to make the quota. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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james Henderson wrote: This is the scan courtesy of Glen for an idea... but may not be the final design...please read James 1st posts in this thread for some insight hand6.gif Hello again everyone! Attachment: 3torsa.jpg (Downloaded 107 times) |
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jakisbck 3T WIS 
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Wow that was quick! I made that suggestion yesterday about how it would look and WAH_LAH it happened. Brotha O and James you guys are on the ball, consider me in. |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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Is there a way to make the hour hand pointed? Like the minute hand. Just a suggestion. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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daanbc wrote: Anything can be done if willing to pay for it :) All of the Orsa 50 LE's have these hands...I might also add that the Dials have multi-levels and are very unique..hand6.gif Is there a way to make the hour hand pointed? Like the minute hand. Just a suggestion. |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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I LIKE GLENS SCAN.....but was I correct in mention that the green was also being introduced to the hour markers ???????? Last edited on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 10:18 am by canadajo |
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Johnny P Advisor 
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I just saw Glen's picture:D |
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jakisbck 3T WIS
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Hey glen how about modifying your pic a lil and maybe adding a black second hand w/yellow tip? How would that look. Here's an example on my Seaplane:  |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Attention Please: I think everyone needs to understand that there will be No redisigning the Orsa....Lume in Green form as James mentioned is the final product with 3T on the Dial at this Time unless otherwise notified by James...Glens rendition is just a close facsimlie :) For Orsa and James to consider doing a 3T LE is enough for me and I can't begin to Thank him enough:)....33 pieces (possibly more)....1st. come 1st. serve...this thread is for those interested in purchasing.We need a commitment of 25 to move forward.I am writing the names down as members are committing to a purchase. This Orsa LE will be for 3T Members .Please take the Time to read James posts in this thread for some insight...nothing is cast in stone as of yet until James gets back to us. I would like to just keep everyone on track as it takes Time to get a Watch to production and if James can get us something by Christmas it would be a Very Generous Miracle that would be Awesome !  |
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jakisbck 3T WIS
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Was I out of line by suggesting to glen about the second hand? if so I dont want to step on any toes here and I only made the suggestion because it soughta look like my Seaplane is all. Btw hey so how will this work ? does he want the total up front or 50% now and the other when the watch shows up? Maybe I should just wait and see. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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jakisbck wrote: You weren't stepping on any toes Buddy...we had a 6 page thread on the discusion of likes and dislikes (see link)I am not aware of how payment arragements will work but those who commit to Buying first will be Guaranteed a 3T Orsa...these are in a very Limited Quantity...like I said Please read James Posts in this thread :) http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=3784&forum_id=1 Was I out of line by suggesting to glen about the second hand? if so I dont want to step on any toes here and I only made the suggestion because it soughta look like my Seaplane is all. |
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james Henderson Guest
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Hello all! Not to worry about my toes! They can take it! But I have to say thank you to Oscar for stating, perhaps more firmly, what I am trying to gently say - in order to get this project off the ground a lot of little things need to happen: 1. We need to confirm that we have enough parts to run the 33 - cases, dials and crowns. We are FAIRLY confident that the answer to this is yes, however, it will be confirmed when Berg completes his inventory this week. 2. We need to secure enough ETA movements - for those who are interested, the movement is the ETA 2824-2 and as you know it is modified for a 6 o'clock date. We are hunting these down now, and hope to source them in the US. If we cannot, then we have to either order directly from ETA - which will push us back well past December, and sort of defeats the whole purpose of what we are trying to accomplish by keeping it quick and easy. I have found another ETA movement that might fit the bill - but I will need to do some more research on it, and make sure that our assembler is in agreement with its use. 3. We need to get the dial and hands modified. I think that the possibility of re-luming some of the indices in the 3T Green (either 4 or 6) and the tips of the hour and minute hands is very do-able - BUT this costs money for each step. We want to hit as close to your price outline as possible, yes it will certainly have a 3T logo! Don't worry about that. We are also going to investigate the possibility of having the model number (i.e. 1/33) on the dial - what do you think? 4. We would need deposits of at least 50% from all interested parties. Having said all of that, Berg and I are very excited about this project, and want to make it happen. We are hopefully nearing the finish line. I promise to keep you posted! Your friend at Orsa - James Henderson |
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jakisbck 3T WIS
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Brotha O I have read all of the post but I just wanted glen to modify his sketch because I, myself was just to darn lazy to do it . (wanted to see how it would look is all) James thanks for confirming the requirements i.e. (50% down) thats of course it all comes to fruition. Im still in. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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jakisbck wrote: I understand Greg...it is my intention to keep everyone on the same page and get a head count so we can move forward and bring the Orsa 3T to Life...that is the purpose of this thread hand6.gif Brotha O I have read all of the post but I just wanted glen to modify his sketch because I, myself was just to darn lazy to do it . (wanted to see how it would look is all) |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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Puting the 1/33 on the dial sounds Great! Who will be responsible for taking the orders? I don't wish to be counted out. I've been waiting for an orsa for some time now.LOL. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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daanbc wrote: I am keeping the head count :) Once we reach 25 I will let James know and we can go from there....so here is the thread to commit at this point or pm me :)....the members who have already done so are accounted for hand6.gif Puting the 1/33 on the dial sounds Great! Who will be responsible for taking the orders? I don't wish to be counted out. I've been waiting for an orsa for some time now.LOL. |
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e.avery 3T WIS 
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I am in for 2 if we over sell I can take just 1. The movement is the only question it will be a nickle ETA 2824-2 or other 2824-2. |
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KenC Admin
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Oscar.....this is my firm committment....tell me when and where to send the deposit!money2.gif |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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Me to please, confirm committment of one. |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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THE IDEA OF 1-33 IS SO VERY COOL  |
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james Henderson Guest
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canadajo wrote:THE IDEA OF 1-33 IS SO VERY COOL More from your pals at Orsa - Hi everyone! I have some good news: 1. I have sourced (I believe) enough movements for the project "in country". This is good news in terms of turn-around time - not fantastic news in terms of getting an even lower price than originally estimated - but I guess it's a good thing I estimated slightly higher! 2. Martin is fairly confident that we will have enough dials, cases and hands to complete the project on time - BUT we are waiting for final confirmation from Berg - young father with another full time job so please be patient with him as he works this out! Myself - I'm a cranky 38 year old married guy with two cats who gives career advice to young people who don't always listen - but that's another story! 3. We have received price estimates for the luming of the hands - and possibly of the indices - IMPORTANT - luming the indices adds something in the neighborhood of $50.00 per watch. I want you all to be aware of this cost, as we are not going to just "slap it in there" and make you accept it. We have also located someone to do the dials with the logo. If we add the individual number on the dial, this will put the price quite high again - how about engraving on the case back AND between the lower lugs a'la Rolex? 4. You guys are a FANTASTIC group! You are our core customers, and the reason why Berg (The Visionary) Dion (ORSAs Napster) and yours truly (need an evocative nickname - used to be "boy wonder" but at 38 I'm pehaps a little past it - am open to suggestions!) are doing this! Yes - we want Orsa to grow, and it is great that we can take on projects like this while we do! Lastly - I have worked hard to find a way to make this project happen even if we don't reach 33. It does mean a bit more money for each person if we don't, but nothing out of the ordinary - perhaps $15 - $25 each. This is something that we might be able to do every year - so be ready! I am confident that providing Berg confirms enough supplies, we will be able to deilver by Christmas! More soon - Your friend at Orsa - James Henderson |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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Engraving on the case backs and between the lugs are fine with me. Although I do like the idea of it being on the dial a bit better. But thats up to the rest, As for the luming-what color again? And exactly what is to be lumed? Thanks. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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James Engraving the caseback sounds good to me....:) I understand these will not be the Swiss Made versions but will they be exactly as the Orange and Black dial models including the Movement and Overall Construction hand6.gif |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: James Engraving the caseback sounds good to me....:) I understand these will not be the Swiss Made versions but will they be exactly as the Orange and Black dial models including the Movement and Overall Construction hand6.gif Oscar, I think the first two runs were assembled in Asia and we are looking at made in the USA Sea Anglers. Pax |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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I am in for 2 and sounds good to me, O I will take your word and role with it. SOUNDS GREAT!!!:D |
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james Henderson Guest
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Hi Pax, in fact no, they were assembled in Quebec. James Henderson Orsa USA |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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I LIKE THE IDEA OF MADE IN CANADA !!!!!!!!!! :) james Henderson wrote: Hi Pax, |
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james Henderson Guest
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Ah, but these will be made in the US! James |
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KenC Admin
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I don't care where they are built....I know that ORSA QC processes will insure a quality product..............I am soooooooooooo excited!!!! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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james Henderson wrote: Sounds Great James!....Quebec,U.S.A....I just know they will be as Ken said....Awesome! and if Ken is Excited ....well let's just say it takes Quite a Bit to get Ken Excited I have been wearing my Black Angler for 2 weeks now and I can say it is All That!!!...A mass e-mail will be sent out today for all members(who may not know yet) to read about the Orsa Sea Angler 3T calendr1.gifhand6.gif Ah, but these will be made in the US! |
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sleddog218 3T WIS
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Do we have an estimate for final price yet? I'm really excited about this possibility, but budget is tight, even with selling off a couple watches to make room/$$. TIA, David |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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sleddog218 wrote: At this point we are looking for a show of interest as we need 25 to get the watch to Production :) If everyone would please read the multiple Threads and Posts you will have a better insight as to what the Final Product will look like and Cost..(somewhere around $500.)hand6.gif....James from OrsaWatch will reveal a final design and price ASAP .....so members please just sit back and relax...I know we are all excited but let's wait to hear from James as he is working hard on this for us and needs to talk to all involved in this Project within the Orsa Co. to make sure everything is in order before making any concrete announcement. Do we have an estimate for final price yet? I'm really excited about this possibility, but budget is tight, even with selling off a couple watches to make room/$$. |
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sleddog218 3T WIS
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No problem :cool: That's the range I'd seen, just wondering if it had changed at all. I'll keep my eyes peeled, this is exciting stuff! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Lume shot of the Black Dial Sea Angler :) Attachment: Picture 003.jpg (Downloaded 55 times) |
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RandyG 3T WIS 
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Oscar, please reserve one for me. The USA version may make it more collectable the way I see it O.A. Gaspar wrote: james Henderson wrote: |
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KenC Admin
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Randy, Randy, Randy.........................where have you been? Good to see you!!! RandyG wrote: Oscar, please reserve one for me. The USA version may make it more collectable the way I see it |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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RandyG wrote: You were on the List before You knew it Randy :P I figured you would want one for sure...Good to see you Buddy hand6.gif Oscar, please reserve one for me. The USA version may make it more collectable the way I see it |
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RandyG 3T WIS
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I have been trying to stay out of trouble, but, it has not worked. Why not get ShopNBC to sell these at $2,495? KenC wrote: Randy, Randy, Randy.........................where have you been? Good to see you!!! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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RandyG wrote: I can hear it already Randy..the "Phone Lines are on Fire":P How's that Aston Martin coming along,Buddy hand6.gif I have been trying to stay out of trouble, but, it has not worked. Why not get ShopNBC to sell these at $2,495? |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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KenC wrote: Waiting on official word from James...until then we still need a few more Orsa/3T reservations calendr1.gifhand6.gif IS IT DECEMBER YET? |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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Oscar, Obviously I would be interested in the right design. Some of the mock ups shown dont do it for me. Will we get a final design/color combo etc. prior to the go ahead, so we can make a final decision? If so, count me in:) Also, may I suggest starting a new thread with an outline of what we know, if anything so far. Unless its just me, this thread is starting to get difficult to make heads or tails out of.:) |
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KenC Admin
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: KenC wrote: Tony may have a point.................let's start a commitment specific thread! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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That is the intent once James gets back to me about Design and Final Price...until then we need to just be patienttime2.gif once He has what we need to see... a new thread will be started...all I can say is there are only a few more needed to reach 25 commitments...no one is being held to purchasing at this point,but once all the info is in and anyone left sitting on the fence decides they want one there may be none left...a Total of only 33 will be made and this thread is a commitment thread or pm me as many already havehand6.gif...based on my Orsa Sea Angler I can say it will be well worth the wait...a very short wait at that!James has been busy speaking to those involved at Orsa as of our last converstaion,and I'm sure James doesn't work weekends like most of us  O.A. Gaspar wrote:KenC wrote: |
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KenC Admin
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Sorry......misunderstood your comment about needing a few more resrvations! O.A. Gaspar wrote:
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oagaspar Site Founder
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KenC wrote: Nothing to be sorry about Ken :)....We have only been talking about this Orsa/3T project since this Wednesday....I think plenty has been accomplished in a few short days and the Interest/Excitement level is High with all involved!...I can't wait!! ...I have been waiting close to 2 months on the Doxa GMT :P  :P Sorry......misunderstood your comment about needing a few more resrvations! |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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I am glad that the progress has been made and that the printing on the dial has been addressed. That was the only concern that I had due to the tooling up cost for small run would be great. The engraving of the case back and between the lugs will work and be cost effective. The only input is that the type of engraving needs to be deep. Using a 45 degree channel, and a cutting depth of .5mm should work as a general idea in order to stand out on the case back. Did not mean to add complicating factors just food for thought. Since it will be all hand done and not in the casting it should be easy to accomplish. |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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I have no nails left to bite!!!! This may be the best damn present I gave myself, excluding my three kids I helped my wife produce. LOL. |
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james Henderson Guest
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Updates - Hello all - I am still waiting to hear from Martin RE: amount of stock on hand. Please remember that we are hoping that we have enough dials, hands and cases to do this project "less expensively and more immediately" than we would otherwiise have to do this project. Please, everyone, try to be patient. We want to do this project, we are sincerely hoping that we have the extra materials to do this project less expensively than otherwise necessary. By the way, ORSA t-shirts will be on sale shortly for those who are interested. Projecting a cost of $15 per shirt - plus shipping. I will ask Oscar if it's okay to do a 3T Orsa shirt - More to follow - Your pal at Orsa - James Henderson Orsa USA |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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Wow this keeps getting better.!!:) |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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james Henderson wrote: TY James everything sounds Great hand6.gif Updates - |
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