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teddyhanna Guest
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Man there is no talk at all about this. Okay I said a little prayer for Brett Farve and the Packers, but we all must move on....cat28.gif I f had to bet money I would go with Patriots all the way, but I got this root for the under dog thing going on in my head, so I think I'm going for the Giants. My neighbor invited us to watch it at his house, it's like I think I just want to sit in my own house and relax and watch the game, |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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Going to just park my self right here and watch it at home. My kid bro may come up if he can pull getting the day off. But I am going for the Pats. ;) I should pull for the NFC team like my brother but just don't care for the Giants. :) LOL :D Plan is beer and pizza for the game. :cool: |
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abrizz 3T WIS 
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So I've played the game on wii, and I actually watched the first part of last years superbowl. Pretty cool with the kickreturnthingy that happened then. Anyway as you may notice I don't know that much about it. So whats the deal this year with the different teams? I heard something about one team not having been beaten at all this year? Please educate me, all I know about the superbowl is that the halftime show is supposed to be a pretty big team.  |
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BobB 3T WIS 
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I'm thinking upset here, so I'm picking the Giantsyourock.gif The halftime show will be fantastic. Tom Petty & the Heartbreakerscool10.gifcool10.gif Kind regards Bob |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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Refer to avatar:P the Giants are a second rate team in a second rate division NFC...love him or hate him Belechick? is no match for Coughlin........oh did I forget to mention Tom Brady:D |
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mcwright Admin 
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Even though Brady came from that "School Up North", I have to admit he is incredible. I'd much rather see the Pats finish with a perfect season than lose to the Giants. It is going to be awfully hard to drive around parts of town this weekend with both the SuperBowl and a big Golf Tourney being held on the same weekend. People are actually renting their homes in Glendale for $850 a day and some for $10,000 a week to football fans and press. |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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I still feel the pain...coyote2.gif Having said that I will root for the NFC Champion New York Football Giants. I have to go with the underdogs. Not too mention the BS Belicheck pulled earlier this season. Coach of the year my butt...cheater of the year is more like it!! Truthfully I could care less but do plan on having a fun time at CJ's place. |
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AntFarm 3T WIS 
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If the Pats lose after going 18-0 that would be really sad. But if I were betting on the game I would have to see what the point spread was before I made my decision. Other than that since it doesn't put money in my pocket or a watch on my wrist I don't care who wins. |
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mcwright Admin
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>>Not too mention the BS Belicheck pulled earlier this season. Coach of the year my butt...cheater of the year is more like it!!<< Belicheck got caught, that's all. cat28.gifLord knows whatelse goes on... |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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mcwright wrote: >>Not too mention the BS Belicheck pulled earlier this season. Coach of the year my butt...cheater of the year is more like it!!<< Awww, Mike. Let me have my naive dream. I guess they can't all be Lombardis!!  |
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mcwright Admin
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Hey, I grew up watching NASCAR! cat28.gif |
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teddyhanna Guest
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I think this is going to be awesome Super Bowl game. I think the giants Defence will be a big factor, I think there Defence-front 4 are awesome. The Patriots, well Tom Brady is the man I have to admit, he's already a hall fa-mer already. There a class act, look they took Randy Moss and made a man out of him, or now he act's like a man now! I don't root for Patriots but I say this, in hope I don't sound arrogant I have been watching NFL since 1971 and the Patriots act and play like "Old School", It's all about wee-wee-wee and not me-me. My son (who is 12 yrs old) we sat and watched the interview on ESPN last week where Teddy Brucski, Junior Saui, Rodney Harrsion and Verball (I know I spelled there names wrong, so what) were talking about team play. after the interview the first words out of my son's mouth was "wow" dad there all about team first and not about me-me-me. they left a great impression on him. There an awesome team with great talent. If I have sounded disrespectful in this post or a "know it all" then I apologize now. Only my thoughts. Peace...  |
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KenC Admin 
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Paxman wrote: I still feel the pain...coyote2.gif Hating the coach is no reason to hate the team....why do you hate him?...because he is sooooo damn good and could beat the Packers? (Heck...even the Bears walloped the Packers!) I'm not a fan of either team...and actually (bigot that I am) detest the whole NY/NE FU culture, but I am rooting for the Patriots simply from the sense of history. I was living in Ft. Lauderdale when the Dolphins went 17 - 0 (Earl Morrell deserves credit for that...not Bob Griese). A 19 - 0 Season would be one for the history books...besides, I am a big Tom Brady fan, as, much like Favre) he was disdained by all, barely made the draft as he was considered just another "also ran"...and now, they both lead the NFL in damn near every QB statistic! |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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Hey Ken, I never said I hated Belicheck. I do thing he's a great coach but I don't neccesarily agree with his methodology. I am sure his methods are widespread, and that doesn't make it all right. I still find him a bit of a souless automoton. I'll root for the Giants for a historical perspective too. that of protecting my beloved '72 Dolphins perfect season. And you're right about Earl Morral... he is always forgotten in the remembrance of that perfect sesaon!! |
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KenC Admin
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Paxman wrote: Hey Ken, I never said I hated Belicheck. I do thing he's a great coach but I don't neccesarily agree with his methodology. I am sure his methods are widespread, and that doesn't make it all right. I still find him a bit of a souless automoton. ...and the other most under estimated QB in Pro-Ball....George Blanda! |
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teddyhanna Guest
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Well since I'm a Raider fan.....and our organization is so screwed up and the owner Al Davis is a mess. Looking forward to a good Superbowl. Ya I agree Belicheck is no Bill Parciels, his mentor. He lacks personality and character. Mark yes Brett Farve is great, but Bart Star is a legend how many championships and superbowls did he win.......? Last edited on Wed Jan 30th, 2008 11:19 pm by |
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pchop 3T WIS 
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Well the KC Chiefs went 4 and 12 or something like that...So since my team isn't going to the "show" I'm kind of torn...Pats are strong, damn near flawless in my opinion...Giants however have won their last 10 road games and have everything to prove... So now I will sprinkle is some destiny...Are the Pats destined to achieve that perfect season??? Is Eli destined to win and make all kinds of "Manning" history in the NFL??? I don't know fellas this is a little to complicated for me, I'm putt'n all my money on the commercials, LMAO...Heard TV time is going for about 10k a second, for that much money I would hope they put out some good ones... In closing, HAHAHAHA, I really wanted to see Brett go all the way this year...Guess that makes me a closet Packers fan, just don't tell the Chiefs, HAHAHAHA... |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Oh I just had a flash. I predict there will be a winner that makes many happy and others not. LOL :D But the half time show should be great. And I'm also looking forward to the commercials to see how crazy and out landish they will be this time. :cool: ;) |
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canadajo 3T WIS 
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Hey Ken ... what are your thoughts on Billy Kilmer ????? With all the talk of Blanda and Morrall ...... The plan is (as it is for the Packer Games ) to watch the game (in the addition we built out back of the house) on the Plazma in high-def , with Pizza and shrimp and beer etc etc ........Pax and myself and a few others have made it a regular thing ..... the addition is the only place in the house you can drink and smoke and swear ( if you are inclined to do so ) |
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KenC Admin
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teddyhanna wrote: Well since I'm a Raider fan.....and our organization is so screwed up and the owner Al Davis is a mess. Looking forward to a good Superbowl. Ya I agree Belicheck is no Bill Parciels, his mentor. He lacks personality and character. Favre will be a legend in years to come...very few are "legends" in their own time, perhaps Montana and Namath being a couple of exceptions. |
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KenC Admin
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canadajo wrote: Hey Ken ... what are your thoughts on Billy Kilmer ????? With all the talk of Blanda and Morrall ...... The plan is (as it is for the Packer Games ) to watch the game (in the addition we built out back of the house) on the Plazma in high-def , with Pizza and shrimp and beer etc etc ........Pax and myself and a few others have made it a regular thing ..... the addition is the only place in the house you can drink and smoke and swear ( if you are inclined to do so ) WHAT....................NO CHEESE????  |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: canadajo wrote:Hey Ken ... what are your thoughts on Billy Kilmer ????? With all the talk of Blanda and Morrall ...... The plan is (as it is for the Packer Games ) to watch the game (in the addition we built out back of the house) on the Plazma in high-def , with Pizza and shrimp and beer etc etc ........Pax and myself and a few others have made it a regular thing ..... the addition is the only place in the house you can drink and smoke and swear ( if you are inclined to do so ) Oh there will be cheese!! |
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mcwright Admin
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Boy, I wouldn't want to be there when you cut it...  |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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mcwright wrote: Boy, I wouldn't want to be there when you cut it... Funny you should say that, Mike. CJ and I do enjoy a good stinky cheese!!  |
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Upside 3T WIS 
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well I just want to put it down in writing...statistics aside, my gut tells me upset so I'm saying the Giants will win. In the end I want to see a good game with classic soul, effort, stratagy, skill, and not a sudden blowout. CFL or NFL I still think it's weird to see a whole season come down to just ONE game. |
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teddyhanna Guest
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Ken & Mike I heared today on ESPN-RADIO that the lowest price for a lousy seat (ticket) is $2800. A good seat is $4800......"WOW". Is it crazy there like traffic all over the place...? |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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I am ready for some football!!! |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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My gut is telling me the Giants will WIN....this year is Eli Manning's year and Jacobs and Placido will lead the way along with the defense of the Giants!  ..I would like nothing better than to see Beliupchuck lose in the final minute of the game so he can display his poor loser attitude and cheating ways....not to mention he is hated here in Cleveland for his role of dismantling the Browns and them moving to Baltimore!!!....Go Giants!  ...I would also hate to see those in Boston sweep the 3 major Pro-Sports as it looks like the Celtics are also on their way to a championship |
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b2s 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote: ..I would like nothing better than to see Beliupchuck lose in the final minute of the game so he can display his poor loser attitude and cheating ways.... Neither fan of Pats nor Giants, but would love to see what you just said.  |
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KenC Admin
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Seems like a lot of you want the Pats to fail because of Belicheck...and he ain't even playing. CJ...missed your question on Billy...he was a good "utility" player, but I think he lacked the character and leadership to be great....and he kept taking himself out of the mix. Bottom line: a great partier but not a great player with the longevity and leadership of a Morrell or Blanda. Skip...Average $3800 per seat puts the stadium at a cool $300 million plus concessions. Throw in the Phoenix Open and all of the pre-bowl activities, hotel rooms, restaurants, etc., and it looks like close to $1 Billion in revenue for Phoenix....that ought to stimulate the economy. |
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b2s 3T WIS
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But he leads the team and so the whole team attitude (or may be not). I used to like Tom, but now I am not so sure. Either way, I hope for a great game and look forward to those commercials and the half time show. cool10.gif |
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KenC Admin
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b2s wrote: But he leads the team and so the whole team attitude (or may be not). I used to like Tom, but now I am not so sure. No...the coach is in charge of the team, and develops the team, and devises the game plans in accordance with the talent...but usually, the Quarterback (on the offense) leads the team..and, of course, the defense needs a good leader also. Once the teams are on the field...it is the players who lead! |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Ken it amazes me how much some of these folks pay for a seat. :shock: :? I'd rather buy a watch and watch the game on TV. LOL :D Or several watches. hehehe :cool: |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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OKAY ... I can agree with that ... but with an ugly pass that looked like a wounded duck , he was able to throw for alot of yards and wins ....( he was no SONNY JURGENSON ) Sonny threw the most beautiful ball ! Johnny Unitas gets no credit anymore ...... Joe Montana is even forgotten !!! "Who is Bart Starr" anybody under 30 will say .... THEY ARE ALL TOUTING Tom Brady as the best ever already ??!!??!! Payton Manning and T Brady will be Hall of Famers but who can say they're the best ever already ??????????? KenC wrote: Seems like a lot of you want the Pats to fail because of Belicheck...and he ain't even playing. |
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foghorn 3T WIS
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Patriots win by a score of 51-3. perfect.gif19-0perfect.gif |
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KenC Admin
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canadajo wrote: OKAY ... I can agree with that ... but with an ugly pass that looked like a wounded duck , he was able to throw for alot of yards and wins ....( he was no SONNY JURGENSON ) Sonny threw the most beautiful ball ! Johnny Unitas gets no credit anymore ...... Joe Montana is even forgotten !!! "Who is Bart Starr" anybody under 30 will say .... THEY ARE ALL TOUTING Tom Brady as the best ever already ??!!??!! Payton Manning and T Brady will be Hall of Famers but who can say they're the best ever already ??????????? I was pointing out Montana, Starr, Staubach, Bradshaw, Namath, Unitas, Griese and a bunch of others to my boys as we watched the NFL series of SB game clips. But my original comments were in reference to GREAT back-up QB's that never got any credit!!!...G Blanda and E morrell be 2 of the greatest! Kilmer kept taking himself out of the game with "self-inflicted" injuries, while Blanda and Morrell did everything to keep themselves in the game! I do have to agree that Brady and Peyton Manning are among those greats...they start, they dedicate themselves to the games and they are extremely talented. The jury is still out on Eli! Brady and Peyron are great QB's because they are talented and GREAT leaders. For example, Marino was a much better technical passer that Montana, but he was never a great quarterback because he was on-dimensional, and lacked leadership ability. Montana was a great leader, good scrambler, great play-maker and had great filed presence. Skills and traits his contemporary sorely lacked. |
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b2s 3T WIS
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Agree somewhat, but this does not change my view. Let's hope for one great evening ;) KenC wrote: b2s wrote:But he leads the team and so the whole team attitude (or may be not). I used to like Tom, but now I am not so sure. |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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Allright ... heres my list 1. Unitas 2. Montana 3. Staubach 4. P Manning 5. Elway 6. Bradshaw 7. Favre 8. Brady 9. Graham 10. Starr 11. Marino 12. Dawson 13. Fouts 14. Kelly 15. Stabler |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Patriots are a 12-point favorite with oddsmakers right now. My kid brother follows this stuff real close. But either way this will be a historic game. Either the perfect season for the Pats or the perfect upset for NYG. ;) Pizza is ready for the oven, beer is chilling and my cats are warming up my chair. LOL :D |
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foghorn 3T WIS
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canadajo wrote: Allright ... heres my list Unitas also made some great hand wound movements! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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What...no Joe Namath!!!!! |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: What...no Joe Namath!!!!! Yea really what's up with that? LOL |
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KenC Admin
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canadajo wrote: Allright ... heres my list To echo others..what...no Namath? Unitas couldn't run, Elway had a hard time winning unless he was in Denver where the opponents ran out of steam from lack of oxygen. Kelly couldn't win the "Big One"...and Dan Marino just plain sucked...he was such a one dimensional player it was ridiculous. He single-handedly destroyed the Dolphins as a competitive team...he just plain sucked, both as a quarterback and as a leader!...Now Kenny "the Snake", he was awesome! Montana, Staubach, Namath, Bradshaw, Brady, P Manning, Favre, Stabler, Graham, Dawson, Starr, Unitas...and Elway, Kelly and, especially Marino, don't even belong on that list!!! ...and let's not forget McMahon...if he hadn't been so injury prone and had gained some longevity, he would have been one of the greats! |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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Unitas not on a best quarterback list is absurd ..... Yes Namath was a winner but his stats are laughable .... look them up !!!! He was a Hall of famer because he was cocky, flashy and backed it up ..... Its all subjectable and I see your point ..... But how was Unitas voted the all century team quarterback back in the 1970,s ????? |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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I actually forgot about the Snake Stabler ... he is definetly a top 15 |
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srh_pres 3T WIS 
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You cant have ever worn pantyhose to make the list... hence Namath is out... heh... :shock: |
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KenC Admin
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canadajo wrote: Unitas not on a best quarterback list is absurd ..... Yes Namath was a winner but his stats are laughable .... look them up !!!! He was a Hall of famer because he was cocky, flashy and backed it up ..... Its all subjectable and I see your point ..... But how was Unitas voted the all century team quarterback back in the 1970,s ????? Namath...he won games...and he beat Unitas in the big one. Quarterback of the century, voted in the 1970's....the vote could have been 30 years too early. In the last 20 years of the century, his immobility would've caused serious problems for his stats! It is all subjective...but too me, nobody sees the game in "slow-motion" when on the field like Montana and the others in the Top 10 (as I see it). Now...that said, I could be wrong....but I'm not!goofy |
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tny795 3T WIS 
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Belichick is exactly what you called him......although I do have some even better ones. :D Paxman wrote: I still feel the pain...coyote2.gif Last edited on Sun Feb 3rd, 2008 08:56 pm by tny795 |
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teddyhanna Guest
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Okay so "this is a good game" you guys have to agree. |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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teddyhanna wrote: Okay so "this is a good game" you guys have to agree. Yes it was. I really enjoyed it as well as the half time show. ;) yourock.gif |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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yourock.gifyourock.gifWhat a game!!yourock.gifyourock.gif |
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srh_pres 3T WIS
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Yeah me too... gonna be fun at work tomorrow with all the Pats fans around... Skipdawg wrote: teddyhanna wrote:Okay so "this is a good game" you guys have to agree. |
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pchop 3T WIS
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Yep great game, and I'm not one to be a sore winner or loser, but if I was Eli, LOL...Would have called up Tiki and said whassup, LOL... |
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teddyhanna Guest
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srh_pres wrote: Yeah me too... gonna be fun at work tomorrow with all the Pats fans around...Hey Tom Petty sounded pretty good. The last 3 minutes, man I was jumping up and down, me and boy were high five-in and my wife and my girls we were all going crazy, man what a awesome game. |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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I had forgotten about that ....ha ha.... good point .... pchop wrote: Yep great game, and I'm not one to be a sore winner or loser, but if I was Eli, LOL...Would have called up Tiki and said whassup, LOL... |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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Play of the game!! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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oagaspar wrote: It was a Dream come true!!! My gut is telling me the Giants will WIN....this year is Eli Manning's year and Jacobs and Placido will lead the way along with the defense of the Giants! |
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Upside 3T WIS
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Hey O, I'm thinking from now on we should only listen to our 'guts' eh? great game!! had me jumping around. |
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sixgears 3T WIS 
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Oh what could've been ... goofy Attachment: Pats_denied.jpg (Downloaded 10 times) |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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sixgears wrote: Oh what could've been ... goofy Oh, what has been...  http://www.1972perfectseason.com/default.php |
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KenC Admin
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It was a superb game...I am a fan of neither team, but I would've liked to have seen the history of a 19-0 Perfect Season. I was a full time Florida boy when the Dolphins went 17-0 and it was exciting. I was amazed at the way the NY defense crushed the NE front line while still maintaining the downfield coverage. I guess this elevates E. Manning to the "can win the big one" group of QB's, although I thought the entire NY defensive team should have been named MVP...they won the game for NY. |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: It was a superb game... I couldn't agree more, Ken!! Although I am happy for Eli!! Or as I called him at the Packers/Giants NFC Championship meeting, "Archie's Little Mistake." |
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teddyhanna Guest
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Paxman wrote: KenC wrote:It was a superb game... Ya I second that Ken the Defe-MVP. Mark I say this to you my friend out of a kind heart, or more of out of my twisted west coast demeanoooor....heee, but at least you can say your packers lost to the superbowl champs. |
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KenC Admin
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Paxman wrote: KenC wrote:It was a superb game... Interesting that a the beginning of the season, the ever fickle NY fan's were calling for Eli's head and the coach's resignation...and now it's all "Aces"...Fair weather fans, as I used to call them in Miami! |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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teddyhanna wrote: Paxman wrote:KenC wrote:It was a superb game... I still wish the Packers had gone!!  I think they would have had a decent chance of upsetting the Pats.I guess you can't fight destiny, and it seems as though the NY Football Giants were destined to be Superbowl champs!! |
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AntFarm 3T WIS
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The defense was amazing they crushed Brady and completely shut down his game. That had to be one of the lowest scoring games for NE this season. Anybody know?? |
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