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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 10:45 pm
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Tonight I was at what I guess you would call a job fair.  It was for only one company, Halliburton.  I wouldnt have even considered going if it was any other company.  So we watched a video and got the low down on the positions they are looking to fill.   I gave my resume and talked to the HR guy for a bit.  Its hard work, long hours and travel, sometimes I would be away from home for a few days at a time.  From the looks of it you definately earn your pay which is really good.  The benefits package is tops also.  For me, working for them would be a dream job.  But, the wife and I have to sit down and talk things over.  Have to see what she thinks of firing the outdoor furnace.  Also, we have a long driveway and with the snow gets deep in the winter.  She already said tonight about her being able to get out when I am away.  So, lots to think about.  Especially if I get called for an interview. Then its serious.  It would be a rough transition going from being my own boss to working for someone again.  Its been 15 years since I opened my business.  I have to admit I am a little scared but confident I could do the job.  Am I crazy for even thinking about a change like this when I will be turning 40 in 6 months?:?

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If you have the wifes support, are mentaly and physicaly capable of doing the job and it fits the dream job for you. Don't let a simple number like 40 stop ya man. :)

If it is what you want and all the above it good to go. Jump! :cool: ;)

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 Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 06:22 am
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If you want to do it, the go for it.  Just make sure your salary is high enught to get a dependable plow guy on retainer ;-)

Be prepared for alittle more travel than yu might expect and some corp BS you'll have to wade through.  One benefit of working for someone else is NOT havign the 24/7 accountability you have when you run your own business.  I kinda like unplugging at night.

40 is the new 30.  Forget about the age thing (says the 41 yo).

--Steve

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Scott,

I am sure that you'll do well...age is just a number.
Even though I'm a couple of years younger than you;
I still need a career change at this point in my life.

I wish you the very best in your endeavours.

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 Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 10:41 am
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Scott

Im turning 44 and My Back has me deciding to take on a new career, the physical part of my job and my training hobbies has me beat up. I tried to get out of being a self  employed kitchen remodeler many times.

You have to just jump in, before you become extinct, do it while  you are  younger than older.

Is it too late to install a Driveway Heater? usually under the slab and ran on a an alcohol type liquid, but do they have something for the surface that will help the Mrs?

Make a change before its too late. You wont regret it.

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Scott, I know it's easier said than done but I think you should got for it!  Not everyone gets a chance for their dream job. 

You are not crazy at all thinking of a change because absolutely 40 is the new 30 and as far as the snow goes, like Steve said, 'make sure the salary is enough to put a dependable snow guy on retainer'!  :)  (meaning: I'm sure you and your family will be able to figure out the things like snow and heat if you get this opportunity)

The only regret you can have is not trying.  And you seem like a stand up guy so I believe you can do nothing but succeed if you set your mind to it.  Good luck with whatever happens!  -chris

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 Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 09:35 pm
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4-Wheel Drive!!! 

Now all we have to worry about is firing up the furnace!  Here's the deal, working for yourself, as you know, is not the easiest thing in the world...sometimes, it is easier to work for others...they always have lower expectation of you than you have of yourself.

A couple other things to think about, as silly as it sounds...

1) would the job with Halliburton be stable and not subject to the whims of the market

2) there is something to be said about a great benefits package and a retirement plan.  What is their disability benefit?

3) Is there equity in your business for which you could get fair value, or would you just have to "walk away" after 15 years?

4) Can you deal with the lack of autonomy working for someone else?

5) would the peace of mind of not having your own business be a fair trade-off for other things?

There are advantages and disadvantages in everything...life is risk vs reward.  I am sure you will do what is best for your family...whatever the ultimate decision is!

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 Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 10:23 am
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Whoa! Excellent food for thought Ken!!  hand6.gif

Scott, although I agree with everyone else, if at this point you still aren't convinced, there's always the alternative of mulling over Ken's points and going with your gut. Just a thought ...

Whatever decision you make, I'm sure it will ultimately be the right one. ThumbsUp02.gif

Last edited on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 10:35 am by aloy

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Hello Scott,

Quite a choice you face.  I left the corporate world at the age of 44 and struck out on my own.  I made this decision because I was disappointed in corporate life with its politics, corporate expectations and modest rumneration.  I was also down-sized twice and that didn't help.  I decided I would be  the next one to decide whether or not I would keep my job. 

That was eighteen years ago and I've certainlt learned what it means to be on your own.  It's sometimes tough to find a perfect stranger (customer) willing to pay your bills in exchange for your services.

Corporate life offers the advantages of steady pay, benefits and hopefully some security.  At your age, if you can hang in, you can accumulate a nice nest egg for your retirement.  I have a client who retired from Halliburton and he did very well for himself.

If you decide to make this change, I would advise you to always be planning your next move.  Always be developing your skill set so you are marketable.  The oil industry has its ups and downs and employees need to be very nimble.

Good luck to you sir.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 12:15 am
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Well, I have done some thinking.  If I get called for an interview I am going to go.  But, I am going to wait to see if they get any type of management or supervisor openings.   I would be working out on the gas wells if I were to go for the jobs that are open.  i would have to work a ton of hours Just to break even. It is an hour or so drive for me so thats another 400 dollars a month in added fuel expenses.  And, its a physically demanding job and my knees and back are shot.  I am kidding myself if I think I could physically handle it.  I would have to get up at 4 am and its quite possible I would be getting home at midnight and have to be getting up at 4am again.  I just cant do that.  Ken, you made many valid points that weighed heavy with me also.  I need to be in a position where I know exactly what my job is and then left alone to do it.  I dont know if I could take direction again after all these years.  I am just used to opening up the doors in the morn and doing what needs done, nobody tells me what I have to do. I just do it.  I thought about times when I have helped at functions that I am not in chrge of.  I hate standing around waiting for someone to tell me what they need done.  I dont know if I will ever be able to find a job working for someone else with what I am looking for.  I guess for now I will still be self employed but, I am still looking for somehing new.  I have no passion anymore for what I do.   I am in a rut and need something different.  :?

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Scott here in Bakersfield Calif  Halliburton (HB) is big here in Bakersfield.  we are known as the oil town.  HB does not mess around in promoting there responsible people, they are no joke, I can see you being a supervisor in no time.   Are ready they are just looking for people just to come to work and not drunk or on drugs.  My neighbors brother (lives behind me) who works out on plant forum in the ocean makes about 175,000 a year.   Dude can I get a loan...Teddy

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