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A watch caught my eye in this weeks photo contest.  Who makes the watch pictured in photo #17?

 

http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=13343&forum_id=6

 

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Im guessing it was a Proto type, possibly an enzo first run?

Im just guessing based on the case and the rest of the dial though.


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Looks like a Schaumburg or Nauticfish to me.

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http://www.nauticfish.com/bild-bracelet1.html

Would be my guess.

http://www.nauticfish.com/bild-1000-black.html

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That's a Schaumburg me thinks...

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it's a prototype alright!...and a future surprise for 3T members in the works! yahoo.gif....you likey hand6.gif

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Interesting. I like the raised applied hour markers with the filled lume. From what I've seen this case started out as the NauticFish 1000m II. Now it is being used by Deep Blue for their Master Explorer. If the price point is right on this one I think it could be a contender.

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I recognize the Indexes now Camera_photos.gi


Looking forward to this one.

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Sweet...cant wait to see what comes of it.   I want one now!

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I looked at it again, I really like the clean dial layout. And if they are using C3 lume those applied hour markers look like they should really glow!

Oscar can you fill us in on any more details ??????

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Boschett prototype based on Nauticfish case?

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I would say to whoever is developing...DONT TOUCH THE DIAL IMO...I love it.  Like demo said it is so clean.

 

 

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this watch will be a joint venture among one of our well known manufacturers here on 3T Keith and myselfhand6.gif.....We will have more info for 3T members as we move along but I wanted to see if anyone would catch it in the pic of the week contest....Looks like we couldn't slip one by you guy's!....so now that the cat's outa' the bag... :D 

    We are excited as you may well know to bring Awesome watches to 3T at an affordable price and this particular design is one we really wanted....the clean dial and stick hands are lumed in the new blue superlume and is very cool against the matte black dial imo and other dial colors as well as optional hands will be available ...it is 46mm by 16.5mm ...there is also another dive watch in the works between us and is one that is as nice and has a unique case I have not seen used as of yet in a smaller version 44mm by 15mm for those who can't wear the larger/heavier design pictured here....more to come in about a week Guys!yahoo.gif

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Sounds very interesting Oscar. ;)

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hand6.gifcool10.gif
any chance of a tritium one???

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oagaspar wrote: this watch will be a joint venture among one of our well known manufacturers here on 3T Keith and myselfhand6.gif.....We will have more info for 3T members as we move along but I wanted to see if anyone would catch it in the pic of the week contest....Looks like we couldn't slip one by you guy's!....so now that the cat's outa' the bag... :D 

    We are excited as you may well know to bring Awesome watches to 3T at an affordable price and this particular design is one we really wanted....the clean dial and stick hands are lumed in the new blue superlume and is very cool against the matte black dial imo and other dial colors as well as optional hands will be available ...it is 46mm by 16.5mm ...there is also another dive watch in the works between us and is one that is as nice and has a unique case I have not seen used as of yet in a smaller version 44mm by 15mm for those who can't wear the larger/heavier design pictured here....more to come in about a week Guys!yahoo.gif


SHIP IT  ...who do I need to send payment and my address to, I'll take that prototype off your hands (no pun intended)?  subtlelaugh.gif

What guts will be in it, hoping to get an idea of pricepoint so I can start stashing some away...

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Whos got No.1? mistake.gif

I recognized the 12 oclock Indexes right away hand6.gif

This Model, due to its size I will be aboard on.

Cheers

Last edited on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 01:50 pm by hucky

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Very cool!  Looking forward to learning MORE! ThumbsUp02.gif

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"Looks like we couldn't slip one by you guy's!....so now that the cat's outa' the bag..."

There is no slipping that watch by anyone! That thing is PURE! I want one already!

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Looks very cool!  Can't wait to find out more! hand6.gif

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It just doesn't get any better than here at 3T. FANTASTIC!!:cool:

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Hi guys.

Good ole O trying to sneak one past you.  Oscar and I are looking to develop and double A (Awesome and Affordable).  We are looking at two larger divers. 

Stay tuned!  More information to follow.

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from sunny FL (Disney)

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Beautiful!!!!  Can't wait.

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Very burly...very nice

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Great news!! Thanks Oscar and Keith. I'm looking forward to more info on both of these watches.

Way to go 3T. ThumbsUp02.gif

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Fantastic!!! Always loved that design and hope it's an auto....Can't wait for more infowatch2.gif

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I like it ...... It sounds like the price will be fair and it fills a need for me as a chunky diver  ( everyone should have a chunker in the collection )

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to answer a few questions it will be an automatic.... which one is still up in the air,the design will stay much the same with exception of added dial colors and we are looking into optional hands for those who like to modhand6.gif 

    I have been wearing this one about a week and can say it fits like a glove and wears very well for a big watch with substantial weight...I really like it and it is hard to take off once you start wearing it!.. it will be a nice alternative price wise compared to some of the other higher priced varieties of this exact case and bracelet! yahoo.gif

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Love it, and I agree about keeping that dial clean.

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Well I am glad its to be an auto ! ..... and I was wishing for some plonger hands with serious lume !!!  Also I was wishing for a sea foam green dial, but would be happy with orange or a regular green too ......    cool10.gifcool10.gif

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Very interesting.  I always liked that case style.

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Sounds great.  Like the part about the optional hands for Mod.

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Any chances for PVD ?

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canadajo wrote:
Well I am glad its to be an auto ! ..... and I was wishing for some plonger hands with serious lume !!!



Now we are talking !!! toon1.gif

plonger hands with serious lume.....even better!

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DEMO wrote: canadajo wrote:
Well I am glad its to be an auto ! ..... and I was wishing for some plonger hands with serious lume !!!



Now we are talking !!! toon1.gif

plonger hands with serious lume.....even better!

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Gregger wrote: DEMO wrote: canadajo wrote:
Well I am glad its to be an auto ! ..... and I was wishing for some plonger hands with serious lume !!!



Now we are talking !!! toon1.gif

plonger hands with serious lume.....even better!

hand6.gif

Woot!  smile8.gif

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who does number two work for?

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Ablejack wrote: who does number two work for?
 

Starfleet/Cap'n Piccard

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sleddog218 wrote: Ablejack wrote: who does number two work for?
 

Starfleet/Cap'n Piccard


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Oscar,

Can you show us a shot of the case back. Anything unique going on back there, engraving or cool image??

Thanks. :D

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The case-back has engraving of another company and would be inappropriate to post a picture of.

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BOSCHETT wrote: The case-back has engraving of another company and would be inappropriate to post a picture of.

Do you plan to make your own case back, go generic or exibition?

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Of course I'll have my own.  Probably similar to the Reef Ranger, maybe embossing instead of engraving.  The watch will be 1000m WR so exhibition would not be practical.


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BOSCHETT wrote: Of course I'll have my own.  Probably similar to the Reef Ranger, maybe embossing instead of engraving.  The watch will be 1000m WR so exhibition would not be practical.



Sounds good Keith. hand6.gif

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WOW!! im a lil late to the party! just found this thread n its already 4 pages behind. Best dial on this case i reckon. Fit its like a glove!! cant wait to hear more. smile8.gifsmile8.gifsmile8.gif

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BOSCHETT wrote:
Of course I'll have my own.  Probably similar to the Reef Ranger, maybe embossing instead of engraving.  The watch will be 1000m WR so exhibition would not be practical.

Thanks Keith, I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with. hand6.gif

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Wow, take a week or so off and look what I miss.  Very cool and congrats.  Did you say 46MM?  That sucker has to weigh 280-300 grams?!  It's a big'un.  Love the simple dial.  Nice clean look.  Will enjoy watching this and congrats guys!

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Hi
Really like that!!
Too many watches not enough money!!
Pics have been downloaded into the "watches i want" folder!


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here is the new case and dial design Keith and I have been working on for release 1st...the "CaveDweller".....the dial is a rough rendering right now and the indices and hands may appear a bit larger but you all get the concept....super lume blue will be used and should glow like a beacon and a Miyota auto will power it! hand6.gif

....minute hand can be outlined in color plounger style and red was just used as our primary color for the second hand....yellow,orange etc. can be used as well instead of.....the case design is new and is 44mm by 14.75mm in a brushed finish and will come with bracelet(exactly like that on the No.02) w/divers extension in 22mm along with the rubber strap pictured,sapphire crystal,screw down crown....the lug architecture is very cool and I have been wearing this for about a week and can't say enough as to how comfortable it is and ledgeable due to the larger dial area!yahoo.gif

    We would like to get our astute members input as to colors,hands etc. and what you think is very important to us...Enjoy 3T!thankyou.gif

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Looks good, any chance of making the Bezel more Agressive looking?

Just seems that with a name like cave dweller it would be a really aggressive watch.


Either way, it looks great, a Boschett owner I shall be

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Hey Huck....the bezel is actually a stepped bezel and I will try to get a side view up later....we have discussed the possibility of a black pvd bezel to give it a stealthier lookhand6.gif

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Looking and sounding good.:) And the good strong and solid Miyota is a great movement to use. ;)

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 Wow , I REALLY Like the Cave Dweller.

How could I've missed 5 pages of this threadcrap.gif

 

Thats a Winner, I want One .

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I agree with Hucky...I love the aggressive look of the No. 02 proto bezel.  Also I am a big fan of the matte black dial and skinny hands.  White dial would look sharp as well.  That No. 02 was all me, clean and simple but still eye catching!

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I think the small indices on the No2 are nice but don't fit with the "toolish" look of that case.  I feel a more agressive dial would work better with that case and bezel.

Thoughts?

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I like the Cave dweller case and bezel. I dont like the Zodiac style indices with those hands, probably why I sold my Zodiac, I think simple circle's would offset the hand design, for a cleaner more legible look.

Very cool watch BTWhand6.gif

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I like itThumbsup3.gif

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I am a buyer of that one ...... I wouldnt change anything except for the face color ... If its an agressive outdoor watch, I would want an outdoor color mabey ....... medium or even a light blue ...... yellow and orange are good ..... a red orange like the Tutima .........

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Like it alot....any chance of getting a textured dial of some sort?

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First of all I think this thread should be separated to a new thread for the Cave Dweller otherwise it could get rather lengthy.

Second let me say that the Cave Dweller looks to be an extremely strong contender in the new upcoming dive watches catagory. Since you asked for input here are some of my thoughts:

• The stepped bezel looks good as long as those machined notches on the perimeter are deep enough for a good grip.
• On the bezel I would like to see the 12:00 marker triangle outlined in black for better definition.
• I like the architechture of the lugs, a cool blend of curves and flats.
• The case might already be "set in stone" but I would like to see some simple crown guards around the crown.
• I like the all brushed finish of the case. Easy to touch up.
• I agree with a comment on the dial, the hour markers should be SLIGHTLY smaller.
• The dial 12:00 marker would benefit from a vertical black separation line down the center for immediate recognition and differentiation.
• I like the classic black dial color.
• Slightly narrower hands, (currently a little over powering proportionally).
• The minute hand should have lume that extends closer to the pivot post to differentiate it more from the hour hand.
• The second hand should have the base blacked out. Or it could even have the base and shaft blacked out so that the sweepping head looks like it is floating around the dial.
• I have heard that the color red turns black when viewed underwater, I have never confirmed it, but if so, I would go with a different color like yellow or orange for the second hand accent color.

Again, let me say these thoughts are just my opinion. :D

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BOSCHETT wrote:
I think the small indices on the No2 are nice but don't fit with the "toolish" look of that case.  I feel a more agressive dial would work better with that case and bezel.

Thoughts?


Hi Keith, Yes I agree with your comment on the small indicies. I do like the clean, raised style but think that they could be about 20% bigger on the dial for a balanced visual appearance, better suited to that bold case design. Also I would make the "No. 2" slightly larger (or bold) to give it more emphasis over the "1000m automatic professional" info.

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The No 2 is not part of the design.  The dial was a sample and that's what the manufacturer had.  I wanted to evaluate the case and overall build quality, which btw is just fantastic!  I had worked up another dial design similar to the Cave Dweller for the No 2 case but Oscar and I are leaning towards bringing the CD case to market first.

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Looks good! anymore pics of the side profile? cool10.gifcool10.gif

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I am speechless!!:shock:

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I realize this is premature but any price point range?

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Gregger wrote: I realize this is premature but any price point range?
It's a bit too early.  Still in the beginning stage.  But it will be competitively priced, similar to other Miyota driven watches of it's size and specs.

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Maybe it is just me but these two watches look nothing alike.

I might get creamed for this but my opinion is the "No02" watch is much much more appealing to me...

Case- different

Bezel- different

Crown- different

Dial- different

Hands- different

Oagaspar...how much for the prototype?





 



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1st of all they are 2 different watches as explained in this thread...so please read the entire thread :D....the No02 is a case that we feel has been overused and overdone as well as being too large for mass appeal so we decided to go with a new fresh design in a size 44mm that would appeal to more WIS as in the CaveDweller which we are working on with a few different additions such as a HRV crown/valve and different hand styles....pics coming soonhand6.gif....and the No02 proto is not FS ;)

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oagaspar wrote: this watch will be a joint venture among one of our well known manufacturers here on 3T Keith and myselfhand6.gif.....We will have more info for 3T members as we move along but I wanted to see if anyone would catch it in the pic of the week contest....Looks like we couldn't slip one by you guy's!....so now that the cat's outa' the bag... :D 

    We are excited as you may well know to bring Awesome watches to 3T at an affordable price and this particular design is one we really wanted....the clean dial and stick hands are lumed in the new blue superlume and is very cool against the matte black dial imo and other dial colors as well as optional hands will be available ...it is 46mm by 16.5mm ...there is also another dive watch in the works between us and is one that is as nice and has a unique case I have not seen used as of yet in a smaller version 44mm by 15mm for those who can't wear the larger/heavier design pictured here....more to come in about a week Guys!yahoo.gif

So is this the the other watch that you mentioned and there is one in product that will look like No02?

 

"another dive watch in the works between us and is one that is as nice and has a unique case I have not seen used as of yet in a smaller version 44mm by 15mm for those who can't wear the larger/heavier design pictured here."    

Come on...everything has a price, even my wife knows that...subtlelaugh.gif

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I was kinda confused as well.  I was thinking the No.02  was the proto of the Cave Dweller.  So a watch will not come from the No.02 proto?

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kadeyoung6 wrote:

as mentioned in the thread as well our 1st release will be the CaveDweller design and down the road a possible rendering of the No02 case but as I said this case is being used by many manufacturers and it is our purpose to bring something new rather than something old as our 1st joint venturehand6.gif
I was kinda confused as well.  I was thinking the No.02  was the proto of the Cave Dweller.  So a watch will not come from the No.02 proto?

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I hope I can clear things up.  There are 2 cases being discussed.  The one that has been referred to as No02 and the Cave Dweller.  The Cave Dweller case and design is what we'd like to delevop 1st.  The No02, the dial design in not ours (but it can be).  We/I can do this as well, but probably not before the Cave Dweller.  As Oscar said it has been used before.

Feel free to discuss both. 


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Damn, missed it by 2 minutes.  Thanks Oscar.

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Thanks guys!  Sorry I got a little confused, I totally understand the want to bring something new to the table.  I am excited to see what comes from both. 

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BOSCHETT wrote: I hope I can clear things up.  There are 2 cases being discussed.  The one that has been referred to as No02 and the Cave Dweller.  The Cave Dweller case and design is what we'd like to delevop 1st.  The No02, the dial design in not ours (but it can be).  We/I can do this as well, but probably not before the Cave Dweller.  As Oscar said it has been used before.

Feel free to discuss both. 



I agree....as much as I like the No 2 case it would be nice to have our very own design that makes it "different" from the others.....

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here is the 1st CAD drawing we received from the Factory....these hands are just an example but we are leaning more toward the B&R style ghost hands hand6.gif....the second hand will be orange or yellow as well as the 1000m script.....we have added a HRV crown (upper left side) since we will be going with a 1000m water resistancy rating and felt it gave the overall case design a more extreme edge but it can be made without it and still keep it at 1000m....what do you guys think!yahoo.gif

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oagaspar wrote: here is the 1st CAD drawing we received from the Factory....these hands are just an example but we are leaning more toward the B&R style ghost hands hand6.gif....the second hand will be orange or yellow as well as the 1000m script.....we have added a HRV crown (upper left side) since we will be going with a 1000m water resistancy rating and felt it gave the overall case design a more extreme edge but it can be made without it and still keep it at 1000m....what do you guys think!yahoo.gif
Lose the HRV crown IMHO:) Looks nice. Does the 1000m add a lot to the total cost?? 300m seems fine to me if it costs that much more.??? Just wondering.

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we originally were only going to go 300m but the cost was insignificant to bump it up to 1000m so we decided it would be a good move....we can lose the HRV if everyone feels the samehand6.gif

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I like it oscar great job.  I think the B&R hands would look great.  Can we see a CAD drawing of it without the HRV.

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I can do with or without the HRV. Like the original hands. Of course, I would like to see the seconds hand and script in orange.:D Really an appealing watch imho... much more so than the overused case on No.2... although something tells me I need to get into that case at some point. ;)

Looks like a winner guys! Thumbsup3.gif

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Here's a few pics.  As said before disregard the hands.





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I am liking this more and more. Love the name too. :) ;)

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It looks great both ways, but I think I like it better without the HRV.

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I like it w/ or w/o the HRV.  I would really like to see the 12 hour marker be different than the rest.

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Valve or no valve doesn't matter....Like the yellow...agree with the different 12 marker and was wondering if the markers seem big or is it me? Would like to see side view...but I think it's lookin good!!!

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 Yellow w/o is my favwoohoo.gif

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Hay Oscar one of the main reasons I like the name allot is a 1st cousin of my dads was a cave explorer from the 1950's -1980's. :) He would show up at family reunions and put up a slide show of the caves he had been to all over the world. ;) As I told Keith in a PM this brought back some fond memories. :cool:

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I like where you guys are going with this one.  My vote is yellow with HRV.  At first I was thinking you may want to consider making the 6 marker the same as the 3 and 9 but the more I look at it, the more I like the indices.  With them being that large, that thing will glow like crazy!  hand6.gif  cat28.gif

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love the case design. lugs and bezel reminds me of a spider/crab? goes well the game i spose? hihihihi. Dial is good too, im sure it will look tons better irl. Btw regarding the HRV i wasunder the impression one is needed to clear the 1000m WR,  mabe a recessed HRV instead? btw great work, its due time 3t got herself a totally original design watch. cool10.gifcool10.gif

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I'll probably get yelled at for this...But I think you should lose the date. :shock:

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scottran wrote: I like it w/ or w/o the HRV.  I would really like to see the 12 hour marker be different than the rest.

Agree!!!  I think the same shape but maybe the same color that Cave Dweller is written inThumbsup3.gif

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we are happy to see everyones comments and we are seriously taking them into account towards the final design.... especially that you like what you are seeing so far....TYthankyou.gif.

...hopefully by the end of next week we will have some new hand samples to select from and post for your opinionshand6.gif 

 ....we would also like to see some of your creative designs for a custom caseback!....remember it's a CaveDweller...so think caves,bats,water etc.....use your imaginations but keep it simple ...and if we decide to use one of the members caseback designs both Keith and myself would be happy to reward you with a free watch!yahoo.gif

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Great work Oscar and Keith. Love the look of this watch! I'm okay with or without the HRV, would like a slightly different marker for 12

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Do we start our case back ideas here?....OK I'll start...a mean looking moray eel.....an eel is a cave dweller....

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://seafishes.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/andaman-giant-moray.jpg&imgrefurl=http://seafishes.wordpress.com/category/indentification-groups/odd-shaped-bottom-dwellers/&h=383&w=510&sz=151&hl=en&start=56&um=1&usg=__zrFyDiK4aJGVyjDUWZorjewyCsM=&tbnid=h2AhKUBDvRpaEM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Docean%2Bcave%2Bdweller%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26sa%3DN

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Gregger wrote:

gregger we are looking for actual designs not ideas but TYhand6.gif
Do we start our case back ideas here?....OK I'll start...a mean looking moray eel.....an eel is a cave dweller....

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://seafishes.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/andaman-giant-moray.jpg&imgrefurl=http://seafishes.wordpress.com/category/indentification-groups/odd-shaped-bottom-dwellers/&h=383&w=510&sz=151&hl=en&start=56&um=1&usg=__zrFyDiK4aJGVyjDUWZorjewyCsM=&tbnid=h2AhKUBDvRpaEM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Docean%2Bcave%2Bdweller%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26sa%3DN

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oagaspar wrote: Gregger wrote:

gregger we are looking for actual designs not ideas but TYhand6.gif
Do we start our case back ideas here?....OK I'll start...a mean looking moray eel.....an eel is a cave dweller....

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://seafishes.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/andaman-giant-moray.jpg&imgrefurl=http://seafishes.wordpress.com/category/indentification-groups/odd-shaped-bottom-dwellers/&h=383&w=510&sz=151&hl=en&start=56&um=1&usg=__zrFyDiK4aJGVyjDUWZorjewyCsM=&tbnid=h2AhKUBDvRpaEM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Docean%2Bcave%2Bdweller%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26sa%3DN

So do we have to draw it and post it.?

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Hey oscar what about something like this...with stalagtits and stalagmits......
http://www.justinfic.com/truewestern/images/caves.jpg



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Gregger wrote:

yes gregger we are looking for actual CAD drawings,Photoshop,whatever is needed for an actual caseback rendering that coincides with the watches name the"CaveDweller"hand6.gif
oagaspar wrote: Gregger wrote:

gregger we are looking for actual designs not ideas but TYhand6.gif
Do we start our case back ideas here?....OK I'll start...a mean looking moray eel.....an eel is a cave dweller....

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://seafishes.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/andaman-giant-moray.jpg&imgrefurl=http://seafishes.wordpress.com/category/indentification-groups/odd-shaped-bottom-dwellers/&h=383&w=510&sz=151&hl=en&start=56&um=1&usg=__zrFyDiK4aJGVyjDUWZorjewyCsM=&tbnid=h2AhKUBDvRpaEM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Docean%2Bcave%2Bdweller%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26sa%3DN

So do we have to draw it and post it.?

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slinky469 wrote:

sorry Slinky but all I am seeing are some black brush strokes?:?
Hey oscar what about something like this...with stalagtits and stalagmits......
http://www.justinfic.com/truewestern/images/caves.jpg




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Look at the white on the top and bottom.  the idea is to give it a cave look with stalagtits and stalagmits on the top and bottom. I think it would be a real cool case back.  The stalagtits and stalagmits can be raised up on the case back.

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WOW, an optical illusion.  All I saw at first was the black blotches.  I thought I was back in the insane asylum taking Rorschach test.  Heh Heh (oops, did I say that out loud)

Anyway, I see it now.  Pretty cool.

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BOSCHETT wrote: WOW, an optical illusion.  All I saw at first was the black blotches.  I thought I was back in the insane asylum taking Rorschach test.  Heh Heh (oops, did I say that out loud)

Anyway, I see it now.  Pretty cool.

Cool i am glad someone else can see it besides me, I thought i was going crazysubtlelaugh.gif  Yea I think that would be a wild case back for the cave dweller.

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Wow, not sure how I initially missed this post, but I wanted to chime in.  First off, I'm really liking the design of the Cave Dweller and am looking forward to seeing more pics of where you're eventually going to take it.  I like the HRV, but for those that don't, maybe a compromise could be reached by having an HRV like the Stowa Prodiver that doesn't protrude?  Also, I'm glad to see you're leaning towards hands that are completely lume filled vs. just the top half as shown in the first design.  Either way, I'm totally in when it's ready to go. 

As for the Number 2, even though the case has been used in other watches, I would buy one in a heartbeat if you guys decide to move forward with it.  Personally, I think having the Boschett indices and blue lume would set it apart from the other versions that are currently out there.  I know you guys have your time and resources invested in the Cave Dweller, but I really hope you decide to produce this one sometime soon as well!!

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What kind of case back are you going with?  back where the design is etched in or something where the design will be raised?

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We are open to suggestions and will explore and evaluate all possible application methods with the manufacturer.

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I think the pic is really cool Slinky and it would probably look really awesome on the back as you stated with the top and bottom raised.  You could also raise "Cave Dweller" in the black area. Or put the LE number there. jmo...

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I would make the 3,6,9 rectangular and keep the 12 marker as a triangle to set it apart.  I love the look of that dial! And the HRV I think is a must. I think it adds a lot to the watch.   Also what about a lime green second hand and 1000m for a little 3T love!

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AntFarm wrote: I think the pic is really cool Slinky and it would probably look really awesome on the back as you stated with the top and bottom raised.  You could also raise "Cave Dweller" in the black area. Or put the LE number there. jmo...
Thanks antfarm, I think the cave dweller thing in the center would be cool to but i would have to see it and decide.

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We appreciate your comments and designs but we are not looking to re-design this watch completely with exception of hands which we are waiting on and 12hr marker ....redesigning the watch is not the purpose of this thread...TYhand6.gif....slinky TY for your caseback submission but it is also not what we are looking for and doubt the whole optical illusion thing would crossover onto SS without the black and white but again it is not what we are looking for....everyone needs to know we are under a very tight timeline in order to get this watch to production in time for X-Mas delivery and to redesign it at this time would push us into next yearthankyou.gif

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Where did my message go? Was it deleted?! It's was a rather harmless suggestion...

Anyway, here some ideas for the caseback :)



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Those all look awesome.  #4 looks best to me

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Nice job Zarith.  All by hand huh; that's talent.  I wonder how it will look in SS.

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Zarith wrote: Where did my message go? Was it deleted?! It's was a rather harmless suggestion...

Anyway, here some ideas for the caseback :)


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Hey Zarith, I'm in the same boat as you: my post supporting your design got deleted as well--not sure why.  Regardless, for what it's worth, I think your dial design for the Cave Dweller is/was absolutely killer!  Like your caseback design as well!! 

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as I mentioned TY for the effort but we are not looking to redsesign the watch/dial as mentioned in my post above and to leave the post/design would cause confusion as to where Keith and myself are going with this watchthankyou.gif I will be posting the latest factory pics here shortly with multiple angles along with the bracelethand6.gif...#4 on the caseback design looks Awesome! yourock.gif

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I really like #4 also, may want to consider adding "CaveDweller" to it, like #3.

Oscar, I think you mentioned this watch will have the Myota Auto in it, based on my experience over the weekend with the Barracuda i think that is a great idea.  I set it Friday morning, put on a different watch Saturday morning letting it sit 24 hours and put it back on Sunday, the time was within 2 seconds of what it was when I set it on Friday....that ain't bad.

The Barracuda is the first Myota auto I ever purchased, always kind of stayed away from them, based on this performance it will not be the last.



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Yes, we will be using the Miyota 8215.


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oagaspar wrote: as I mentioned TY for the effort but we are not looking to redsesign the watch/dial as mentioned in my post above and to leave the post/design would cause confusion as to where Keith and myself are going with this watch
I understand ;)

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Here are the latest renderings from the factory where we stand right now and both Keith and myself are very pleasedhand6.gif 

    There will be a slight change in the 12hr dial marker and hands that we liked and as soon as those CAD drawings arrive from the factory we will post them for comparison and opinionsthankyou.gif

 



 



 



 



 


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Geez guys, that looks pretty awesome!  I might have to plan on picking one of those puppies up!! yourock.gif

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BOSCHETT wrote: Nice job Zarith.  All by hand huh; that's talent.  I wonder how it will look in SS.

This is how #4 would look on brushed SS:





The design might be too busy. I'll try to simplify it...

oagaspar: that's a fat monster!

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Zarith, try to reverse the color on picture for the case-back rendering.

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I'm thinking that a cave dweller should be an eel or "monster" of some sort with teeth! I have a quick hand sketch with a diver but it's not professional looking.....Say an EEL getting ready to strike a diver...

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Wow Wow Wow!!! looks awesome, love the case design! Phattt!!!!! and the caseback looks good too, but i have my doubts how it would turn out on steel. The design however looks great though, like James bond! lol smile8.gifsmile8.gif


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Wow, everything is really coming together nicely, and I'm very impressed with Zarith's caseback design.  This is going to be one hell of a sweet watch once it's ready to go!!

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Thanks for the CAD rawing perspective views, it really helps to visually explain the contours of the watch and bracelet......and BTW it looks SWEET!.

Zarith, nice job on your case back contributions. Just a thought, should the figure in the center of the cave perhaps be a diver? As in cave dweller / cave diver. After all this is a dive style watch. I think it would make more sense than the "mountaineer" type figure.

Looking good so far. hand6.gif

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Demo, what would really be cool is to have something like the diver in your signature!!!

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DEMO wrote: Thanks for the CAD rawing perspective views, it really helps to visually explain the contours of the watch and bracelet......and BTW it looks SWEET!.

Zarith, nice job on your case back contributions. Just a thought, should the figure in the center of the cave perhaps be a diver? As in cave dweller / cave diver. After all this is a dive style watch. I think it would make more sense than the "mountaineer" type figure.

Looking good so far. hand6.gif

Good idea...but I like the monster idea

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Zarith, post the one with the sea monster.

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Not just a monster, but a "troGLOdyte". 

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This is the latest caseback design Zarith has submitted and both Keith and I are digging it...TY Zarithhand6.gif...what do you guy's think yahoo.gif

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Insaneeeeeeeeeeeee!!! i love it! 10/10!!!!! hand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gif

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Dookie wrote: Insaneeeeeeeeeeeee!!! i love it! 10/10!!!!! hand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gif

Ditto and let me add my WOW and Kewlness!! :cool:

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oagaspar wrote: This is the latest caseback design Zarith has submitted and both Keith and I are digging it...TY Zarithhand6.gif...what do you guy's think yahoo.gif
Now that's a cave dweller!!! Looks good to mehand6.gif

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Wrap it up, I'll take it!!!  That's got to be one of the coolest caseback designs I've seen on any watch; seems like it would be perfect for the "Cave Dweller".   If not, hopefully you guys can incorporate it into a future design.  Truly awesome Zarith!   

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Thumbs up!!!!

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I have been patiently reading this post on the Cave Dweller and following its creation.  It appears that Keith will have another winner on his hands for sure!!  I just purchased an outstanding diver, the Benarus Barracuda, and I can't help but wonder how the two will compare. In any event, Congrats to Keith on another great design!woohoo.gif

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Thanks Tim and thanks to you all.  I'm real excited about this one.

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Zarith, great job on the case back design, the monster looks great. A cool, unique element for this watch. yourock.gif yourock.gif yourock.gif

OK Keith, when do I send my $$$. subtlelaugh.gif
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the "monster" is awesome !!!!!  count me in !!!

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TY everyonehand6.gif...we are working on a hand change and slight 12hr marker switch along with either a HRV or not and all will be good to go yahoo.gif....

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HRV??

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These watches really look very nice.  Oscar and Keith, you guys have obviously been busy.

Regarding the HRV on any watch, to the extent a 1000 meter watch is more likely to be used in saturation diving, I think an HRV should be part of the design.  For me, it's not a matter of cosmetics, just utility.


I think the monster design looks nice for the caseback.

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Oscar, if you don't mind, can you explain what it takes to get a design from 300 to 1000m?  I.e., is it all case strength, or is it additional o-rings, or what?

Thanks, Bill

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we originally were only going to go 300m but the cost was insignificant to bump it up to 1000m so we decided it would be a good move....we can lose the HRV if everyone feels the samehand6.gif

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Bill,

To move from say 300m to 1000m, the thickness of the sapphire crystal and case-back is increased as well as the inside construction.  The O-rings do play a part too.

Keith

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I agree, the monster design is simply awesome!! Would only be better if it was a Bluedragon!ThumbsUp02.gif

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Thanks Keith.


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